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Moto or Kilo TT, Should I wait???

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Old 06-04-13, 06:22 PM
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Moto or Kilo TT, Should I wait???

So it seems like a lot of people like the Kilo TT and people also like the Motobecane Track. The problem is I need a 54cm or 53cm (I'm 5'10") and as of now the Kilo TT is pretty much out of anything in my size except for blue which I don't like enough to shell out 400$ for (I really prefer the chrome one). So should I wait for the Chrome Kilo TT to be back in stock, which could be god knows how long, or should I just bite the bullet and get the Moto?
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Sizing on the Kilo is different than the Motobecane. The Kilo TT is c-c (center to center) and the Motobecane is c-t (center to top), so a 50 cm Kilo TT is the same as a 53 cm Motobecane. You can get a 50 cm Kilo TT in all their colors. The Kilo TT is a much much much better bike than the Motobecane Track.
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Have you done a fit calculator? I'm 5'10 and I couldnt fit confortably on anything smaller than a 56cm. Given we are probably proportioned differently, but its a good thing to do.

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I got the Moto and I love it .. Fit perfectly
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According to the Fit Calculator
So it looks like I need something definitely bigger than 50cm for a Kilo TT. And The 54cm Moto still seems about right.
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50cm kilo tt IIRC has a top tube of 52.3, which is what you need if I'm reading that thing right.
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After reading up more on the Kilo TT and how the 53cm fits most dudes in my size range well I've decided to go with the moto. BD just doesnt have any 53cm Kilos in stock and with the money saved on buying the moto I can make upgrades along the way.
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Originally Posted by bgiaach
After reading up more on the Kilo TT and how the 53cm fits most dudes in my size range well I've decided to go with the moto. BD just doesnt have any 53cm Kilos in stock and with the money saved on buying the moto I can make upgrades along the way.
You can comfortably ride the 50cm Kilo according to your results.
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Originally Posted by kylen721
You can comfortably ride the 50cm Kilo according to your results.
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You can comfortably ride the 50cm Kilo according to your results.
As a newb I scratch my head and say "really?". I used to ride a Schwinn World Sport and it was 56cm; granted it was a little high for my liking but nothing crazy. Also, I saw a video on youtube of a kid standing over a 53cm Kilo and he says to the camera man that he's 5'7".

Kylen721 I believe what you're saying but I just can't wrap my head around the idea of a 50cm bike not being too short for a 5'10" guy with a 32" inseam. With that said, I really appreciate your feedback. It's hard to get solid responses sometimes.
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I didn't see your bike fit results but I am around 5'9" with standard measurements and I ride a 53 Kilo, it's about perfect.
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did you measure your true inseam or is that from your pants? Just trying to be helpful, I've seen that mistake before

and yeah, i would agree with you, I doubt youd be close to comfortable on a 50cm.
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Originally Posted by bgiaach
As a newb I scratch my head and say "really?". I used to ride a Schwinn World Sport and it was 56cm; granted it was a little high for my liking but nothing crazy. Also, I saw a video on youtube of a kid standing over a 53cm Kilo and he says to the camera man that he's 5'7".

Kylen721 I believe what you're saying but I just can't wrap my head around the idea of a 50cm bike not being too short for a 5'10" guy with a 32" inseam. With that said, I really appreciate your feedback. It's hard to get solid responses sometimes.
Others may disagree with me, but top tube length to me is the most important measurement in sizing a frame. Based on your fit calculator results the 50cm Kilo is pretty much right on for you top tube length wise.

Edit: Not that it means much for you sizing wise, but I am 5'9 and was very happy with my 50cm kilo.

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Originally Posted by kylen721
Others may disagree with me, but top tube length to me is the most important measurement in sizing a frame. Based on your fit calculator results the 50cm Kilo is pretty much right on for you top tube length wise.

Edit: Not that it means much for you sizing wise, but I am 5'9 and was very happy with my 50cm kilo.
I just went back over the sizing on the bottom of the page and by the looks of it you're right on the 50cm. I had my girlfriend do the measuring for the calculator so I hope it was up to snuff. With you being 5'9 do you have a ton of clearance when standing over the bike? Meaning, am I going to look weird on this bike when guys that are 5'7 can ride it?
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Originally Posted by bgiaach
With you being 5'9 do you have a ton of clearance when standing over the bike? Meaning, am I going to look weird on this bike when guys that are 5'7 can ride it?

Not directed at me but standover clearance means nothing.
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If standover is such a big concern for you, don't buy a track bike. Their high bottom bracket and traditionally straight top tube are going to make it difficult for you to get the inch of clearance that most bike manufacturers recommend. If you wanna flat-foot the bike at a traffic light, buy a mountain bike.

Height and inseam are not critical measurements when choosing a bicycle frame. Someone who's 5'7" with a long torso can indeed ride the same size bike as someone who's 5'10" and all legs. If you measured carefully, the fit calculator will give you accurate results for a given type of fit.

Finally, who cares if you look "weird?" You're weird looking to most people for riding a bike in the first place.
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Originally Posted by kylen721
Others may disagree with me, but top tube length to me is the most important measurement in sizing a frame.
+1. In fact many of the better manufacturers such as Salsa do it this way.
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Originally Posted by bgiaach
I just went back over the sizing on the bottom of the page and by the looks of it you're right on the 50cm. I had my girlfriend do the measuring for the calculator so I hope it was up to snuff. With you being 5'9 do you have a ton of clearance when standing over the bike? Meaning, am I going to look weird on this bike when guys that are 5'7 can ride it?
I didn't have a ton of clearance but it was plenty for me. I only have a 30.5" inseam so I am a bit long in the torso which it seems like you are a bit the opposite of me in that way. Now that I think about it I had to put a little longer stem on my 50 because the top tube length was a little shorter than I normally like.

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Height and inseam are not critical measurements when choosing a bicycle frame. Someone who's 5'7" with a long torso can indeed ride the same size bike as someone who's 5'10" and all legs. If you measured carefully, the fit calculator will give you accurate results for a given type of fit.

Finally, who cares if you look "weird?" You're weird looking to most people for riding a bike in the first place.
Exactly, no one is going to think you are cool for riding a bike no matter how you look. You can ride a bike that cost more than some people's car and they will still think you are some broke person who can't afford a car.

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Alright folks.

It was never a matter of looking cool, it was only a matter of it fitting right. I'm glad I got it all cleared up.

I couldn't care less if I looked cool riding a bike, I may live in Brooklyn but I'm no hipster.

Thanks for all the help mates!
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