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Old 04-03-08, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by wfrogge
You can upgrade to 3's with pack finishes
...And I probably will.

The higher the category, the more I like the racing. The worse I do, of course, but at least it's challenging. This sitting around for 45 minutes waiting to try a break (or the final sprint) gets boring.
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Originally Posted by ElJamoquio
...And I probably will.

The higher the category, the more I like the racing. The worse I do, of course, but at least it's challenging. This sitting around for 45 minutes waiting to try a break (or the final sprint) gets boring.
I'm guessing my upgrade will come the same way... Only need 7 or more pack finishes. Most of the 4 races around here are always full (75-100 racers) so getting points is pretty darn hard.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Inherent lack of talent, and poor training are a bad combination.

unfortunately, now I have bronchitis, so I won't be racing this weekend.
Damn, sorry to hear that. Deland then.
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Old 04-03-08, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
Isn't that a new policy?
I am pretty sure it is new for this year
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Yup the new points matrix this year really looks like it might kill some of the sandbagging. You basically have two choices to keep from upgrading: Really suck or not race much. I'll be playing safe by doing both in a small pond, since pack sizes matter as well.
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Originally Posted by CastIron
Yup the new points matrix this year really looks like it might kill some of the sandbagging. You basically have two choices to keep from upgrading: Really suck or not race much. I'll be playing safe by doing both in a small pond, since pack sizes matter as well.
Huh.

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4-3: 20 points in any 12-month period; or experience in 25 races with a minimum of 10 top ten finishes with fields of 30 riders or more, or 20 pack finishes with fields over 50. 30 points in 12 months is an automatic upgrade
So I wonder if that means the race I crashed out of and the race I had a mechanical in count?

Lame.
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Originally Posted by CastIron
Yup the new points matrix this year really looks like it might kill some of the sandbagging. You basically have two choices to keep from upgrading: Really suck or not race much. I'll be playing safe by doing both in a small pond, since pack sizes matter as well.
Hopefully this new plan doesn't backfire and end up flooding cat 3 and up with sketch wannabes (I hope I will not fall into that category )
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if you want them too I bet you could make them count
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Originally Posted by kensuf
Huh.



So I wonder if that means the race I crashed out of and the race I had a mechanical in count?

Lame.
Those would count towards your 25, to go with 10 top 10s.

So theoretically you could be OTB in 15 races, but have 10 top tens, and still qualify for the lifetime achievement award.
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as long as you finish a cat 4 race you could claim it was a pack finish. You could get lapped like 8 times in 20 races and as long as you just show up as dfl and not dnf you could claim pack finish and upgrade to 3!
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Originally Posted by kensuf
Damn, sorry to hear that. Deland then.
But not Jacksonville, as there is an email going around telling of an indefinite postponement. Hopefully until the fall, but the rumor around here is the Sheriff's office won't support another race after last year.
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I think it also skews the system towards faster promotion for big fish in a small pond. Cypress could well upgrade to a Cat 1 playing in his (or mine for the matter) neck of the woods.

I wonder if the next step is you have to keep your cat 3 and up ranking or face being downgraded.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Those would count towards your 25, to go with 10 top 10s.

So theoretically you could be OTB in 15 races, but have 10 top tens, and still qualify for the lifetime achievement award.
Or 20 pack finishes.. Why my "cat-3 o-meter" reads 55% based on that.

I've got around half of those for the season so far (3 or 4 top 20s even), and I'm not even warmed up yet (7 races this month with two races I care about, 8 next with a big block I care about, 2 in June that are just an excuse to go to the beach, 6 in July with two I really care about -- need to defend my "most aggressive / relegated rider" award). But the idea that a few more races qualifies me to be a "cat3" is absurd unless I start racking up points and putting down hurt...

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