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Old 05-04-13, 11:46 AM
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surprised myself with a really solid 3.5-hour ride this morning. it's been exactly 4 weeks since i broke my collarbone, and i was doing basically nothing for the first 2.5 of those weeks, so i wasn't optimistic...but i guess i haven't lost as much as i thought.

i have a follow-up with the ortho doc on monday to get some more x-rays. if they're good, i'll probably go ahead and sign up for killington. anyone else going?
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Lots of wind made for a tough team ride today. At the end I was pretty much alone, so I decided to put in a single consistent effort. It was @ SST power level and VO2max RPE. At the end of 4 hours (total, 1 hour hard), that's about the best I can hope for.
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NO CHAIN DAY.

Damn I love that feeling.

83 mile team ride.
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Originally Posted by echappist
unless you spent the whole race off the front (in which, kudos whether or not you got caught), those numbers indicate that you got other things to worry about before worrying about power numbers.
I'm kind of heavy at 77kg(170lbs). Also this race wasn't very long, about 35-40'ish mins.
I spent a good part of 4-5 laps hammering hard at the front trying to bring a break back.

2-3 weeks ago I tested my 20' power at 300W. My 5' power is kinda bleh though.
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at least you got to race fatty. im stuck at home with some weird virus. I just want to race for a change.
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Originally Posted by ovoleg
I'm kind of heavy at 77kg(170lbs). Also this race wasn't very long, about 35-40'ish mins.
I spent a good part of 4-5 laps hammering hard at the front trying to bring a break back.

2-3 weeks ago I tested my 20' power at 300W. My 5' power is kinda bleh though.
that doesn't matter. his point (i think) was that your AP was almost the same as your NP, which means you were working too hard for too much of the race. in a crit, NP should be much higher than AP. you should either be sitting in and working very little or attacking and working very hard. unless you're on the front working for a teammate or something, of course.
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Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining
at least you got to race fatty. im stuck at home with some weird virus. I just want to race for a change.
lol which one is fatty? Matt is a cat2. Supposedly there were some fast cyclocross dudes in my race today but I dunno if thats true.

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that doesn't matter. his point (i think) was that your AP was almost the same as your NP, which means you were working too hard for too much of the race. in a crit, NP should be much higher than AP. you should either be sitting in and working very little or attacking and working very hard. unless you're on the front working for a teammate or something, of course.
Don't really have strong teammates in the cat5's to work for, or I would of. But I agree with the rest of your statement
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90 minutes w/openers...

Race tomorrow at Springbank in London. Never done good at this race, but it's time to change that!
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Old 05-04-13, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ovoleg
lol which one is fatty?
He was calling you "fatty". It's his thing.
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Originally Posted by rbart4506
90 minutes w/openers...

Race tomorrow at Springbank in London. Never done good at this race, but it's time to change that!
You should kick ass dude, good luck!!

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He was calling you "fatty". It's his thing.
haha i am big guy
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Old 05-04-13, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by climber7
surprised myself with a really solid 3.5-hour ride this morning. it's been exactly 4 weeks since i broke my collarbone, and i was doing basically nothing for the first 2.5 of those weeks, so i wasn't optimistic...but i guess i haven't lost as much as i thought.

i have a follow-up with the ortho doc on monday to get some more x-rays. if they're good, i'll probably go ahead and sign up for killington. anyone else going?
good to hear! you may surprise yourself with just how fast you may come back.
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that doesn't matter. his point (i think) was that your AP was almost the same as your NP, which means you were working too hard for too much of the race. in a crit, NP should be much higher than AP. you should either be sitting in and working very little or attacking and working very hard. unless you're on the front working for a teammate or something, of course.
yes, that was the point. Also was the point that cat 2/3 riders usually average 270W (they may be 160lbs) in a crit in which they do well (assuming they aren't in a break). I bring up this point because in a very technical crit i did last weekd (Penn State crit course), my average for the 45 minutes (245W) was 45-55W less than that of some other people (cat3/4 in the 150-165lb range) in my race. The difference was large enough to make me doubt the accuracy of my SRM, and it wasn't after realizing that the really good riders in the cat1/2/3 race were doing 255-275W for their race that i was convinced that my SRM wasn't off.

the OP might ask, and the point is? The point is that learning to ride in a pack, hide, and conserve is a set of skills that needs to be learned early and practiced often. Some of the really strong riders (think cat 5 --> cat 3 in 4-5 months) who upgrade on aerobic strength alone often don't develop those skills, and end up suffering quite a bit now that everyone else is just as good. And while i'm okay with doing 245W for my race, I'm sure CDR would probably have done 170W or something. The point being that chances are, you almost always could have saved more, and that's more energy when you make the attack that stick or when you sprint for the line.
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TSS = 80
18miles
got some kind of nose bleed or something(I think I just scratched my nose or something) so I decided to head home and not do intervals incase I was going to die.
Got home to check my blood pressure and it was fine no nose bleed hrmmm

Going to pick up a buddy from Pitt

Oh also tried to KOM a local hill before I move(about a mile long, 7%), was doing 385W for 4min and still didn't get it. The guy who got this thing is a freaking animal at 420W. I'll try again next week when my legs are feeling better

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Yesterday's 3 hour endurance/tempo ride felt miserable, after I was done I figured out maybe it was because I only at 300 calories?

Today I have 5 hours with a lot of LT and bursts on the program, and I'm dreading it.
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Originally Posted by valygrl
Yesterday's 3 hour endurance/tempo ride felt miserable, after I was done I figured out maybe it was because I only at 300 calories?

Today I have 5 hours with a lot of LT and bursts on the program, and I'm dreading it.
5hrs with LT, good luck hehe sounds painful!!
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Originally Posted by ovoleg
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18miles
got some kind of nose bleed or something(I think I just scratched my nose or something) so I decided to head home and not do intervals incase I was going to die.
Got home to check my blood pressure and it was fine no nose bleed hrmmm

Going to pick up a buddy from Pitt

Oh also tried to KOM a local hill before I move(about a mile long, 7%), was doing 385W for 4min and still didn't get it. The guy who got this thing is a freaking animal at 420W. I'll try again next week when my legs are feeling better
just remember paulie m was only rolling threshold up it....
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Originally Posted by ovoleg
You should kick ass dude, good luck!!



haha i am big guy
No my friend I am a big guy...
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Spring(Crash)bank today..$40, 1:30 hr rushed drive, scrambling to sign in and getting stabbed 5 times while getting number pinned on me, pass rollout, fixed upsidedown number, start, crash on first corner roughly 50 meters in. I'll take pics later. My bike is OKAY, rear derailleur bent up and right hood scrathed up a bunch, and my new carbon wheels were ran over by my teammate when I went down, there's a scratch but looks ok. The worst of it is a rash on my right elbow, elbow is most likely bruised, and hip probably bruised. What a ******* waste.

From what I've heard - two people in the hospital, 8 crashes at the corner I crashed at, my buddy landing on his head and has massive road rash on his whole upper back, plus his all carbon frame cracked and wheel valve popped, he might need a new bike..and all of that in only two(?) races.

I'm terrified to go into the pack now because the crash was partly my fault. I didn't know, but I was going to fast into the corner and as we were turning the whole pack veered left, right into me, touched wheels and went down taking 2 others with me. Apparently that's what that corner is all about, I didn't know. Could've taken a free lap but I was so shaken up at the time and didn't want to cause another one. I'll have to see how next weeks race goes (94km, hilly. The hills suit me better I think) but if it doesn't go well than I don't think racing is my thing.
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sstang13 - woah, sorry to hear of your horrible day. you're in the wrong thread though - put it in the race reports?

my training status: yeah, that was as hard as expected. 296 TSS. Oh, and V02Max intervals at 8500' = ouch.
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True, it wasn't much training thanks.
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Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining
just remember paulie m was only rolling threshold up it....
yep haha. I was pretty much maxed out,maybe about 95%. I think I could of gone only slightly faster but didn't want to blow up midway. Gonna keep training !
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Gonna have some funny tan lines.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin


Gonna have some funny tan lines.
yeah all that leg hair will screw things up!
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I see what you did there
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77 mile group ride. It was 40 degrees and I have some kind of virus so I stayed at the back shooting snot rockets the whole ride.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin


Gonna have some funny tan lines.
Rode an entire stage race one time protecting one of our riders with a similar predicament.
Rkwaki your job is to ride on his left side no matter what and keep everyone away from that wrist. No problem chief...
Teammate went down on the track in Europe fractured his wrist and had 12"+ slivers in his ass from the track...
That my friends is a tougher mother****er...
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