Ygduf

I'd still rather be skinny.

protips: microwaved sweet potatoes. roasted golden potatoes. roasted almonds. as-far-from-instant oatmeal as you have patience, greek yogurt, cottage cheese, roast broccoli/cauliflower, milk, eggs and so on.

^^ I am the laziest cook on earth, but all of that is 0-2 min prep time in a microwave or toaster oven.

rkwaki

1/3 cup of oatmeal
2/3 cup of water
2 minutes in microwave

Perfect oatmeal that is not pre-packaged and full of sugar.

Wesley36

Here is the shiz. Before bed, take a paper towel and coat the inside of a crock pot with coconut oil (otherwise cleaning the crockpot will be no fun). Throw in 4 parts of water to 1 part steelcut oats, turn it on low, go to bed. Wake up, oatmeal ready to go.

And to make it a bit more interesting, I am rather fond of adding amaranth (1/4c if I use 1c of oats, the amaranth is 3:1 for water)(adds protein), sunflower seeds (also adds protein), coconut oil (medium chain fatty acids FTW), and chopping in almonds and walnuts. Oh, and a bit of cinnamon.

Takes a bit of planning, but it is super-easy, and in the morning all the meal prep I have to do in the morning is scoop oatmeal and add a bit of maple syrup.

rkwaki

But where's your protein?!?!
Bwahahahahaha

rkwaki

Funny dilemna. When I was a big time bike racer I weighed 156, had 9" arms and about a 27-28" waist and was scary fast.
Now my arms are double the size they used to be and waist is about a 34 and I am 72 pounds heavier and if I were on the bike I would just be scary...
There is a tradeoff for sure. When I raced at 200 I was very quick but focussed only on crits. If I were to ever come back I would probably race at 210 as I would not be prepared to sacrifice all the muscle I have put on owing to the fact that this is just for fun ('fun' as defined by me might be a little different than most) and would not have any interest in roadracing against 145 pound cat 1s with too much time on their hands.
I also enjoy being able to do other things in life (I am a very good golfer and hockey player) and having the size/muscle definatly helps...

Ygduf

yeah, clearly there is trade off.

Mostly I am envious of the guys who are naturally of smaller build. 6'3" 150 instead of 6'3" 180. At 150 I would probably have the same arm strength that I have now, so it's not like I'd be giving anything up.

rkwaki

At my former race weight I looked very sick (based on my frame like a Rasmussen). At 180 last year everyone thought I was sick as well as my upper body disappears but my legs stay. Most people don't realize how big I am until you see me in a fitted or tighter shirt so by 'normal' standards the people I work with think I look healthy at 230ish. It's all relative.

furiousferret

You could always try the Dave Draper Tuna and Water diet. Good luck enjoying life during that time...

I lifted for 8 years and a small build sucked. My chest and arms just do not thicken out like others, a gut just grows. Of course, I did it clean and half our unit was roiding to the gills. Half the countries we visited let you buy any 'medication' over the counter.

mike868y

Wanted to thank whoever (fatboy?) recommend adding pumpkin to my oatmeal. not only is it delicious, but it seems to keep me full longer and I can eat less oatmeal as a result. Anytime I can replace grains with a vegetable is a win in my book.

misterwaterfall

Looked for the post but couldn't find it. Are you getting fresh raw pumpkin, or adding it from a can? I've been adding a bit of chocolate protein powder as of late and it's like a breakfast desert

rkwaki

It's that dry?

misterwaterfall

If it's dry you're doing something wrong...

rkwaki

Nice...
Or it's old...

Fat Boy

So I came up with something that's not completely F'd? Cool. I'm glad you like it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23047485

Along the same lines, I remember watching one of those 'Buddy the Cake Baker' shows on the Food Network. He said that he always used Libby's canned pumpkin to make pumpkin pie as opposed to stewing his own fresh pumpkin. He said there was no way he could be as consistent as the canned stuff.

Fat Boy

Pick the scabs off first...

Fat Boy

So are you doing more powerlifting or bodybuilding type stuff?

rkwaki

I'd say a combo of both. I train at two gyms, the one is a fufu gym (that is what the members of the hardcore place call it) and the other place is very hardcore (currently home to two of the top 10 pros in the world).
I was going to do a bodybuilding show next year but simply won't be where I want unless I take my former path which I don't want to do. We also have some World class powerlifters that would love to see me do a meet with them but I am scared of blowing myself apart but they are very encouraging as they see me train and say I should put the effort in. They have seen me squat 600+ and dl 500+ but I cannot bench due to shoulder issues.
Ultimately I am at a stalemate about it, I enjoy the training and love to train hard but in the end I am still wouldn't have the mass to do either.
My wife has encourage me to compete in physique but IMHO my frame is not appealing for that type of competition

Fat Boy

You're actually pretty small for powerlifting type of stuff, right? The bodybuilder guys are big, but they're also crazy lean. You don't really have to go down that road on the powerlifter side, right? I don't really know what the hell I'm talking about, just curious.

mike868y

i used canned because I'm lazy, but I see no reason why roasted or boiled or whatever wouldn't be just as good, if not better. haven't looked at the calories, but I'd guess 1/3 of a can is probably equivalent in "fullness units" to 1/3 of a cup of old fashioned oats. i also add almond milk, cinnamon, a bunch of peanut butter (FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT), an apple/banana and a small drizzle of maple syrup. really ends up being some weird type of fruit/grain/peanut mash as opposed to "oatmeal," but it's delicious.

honestly though if you're looking for more protein in your breakfast i'd advise you go with some eggs (on the side or in the oatmeal, as ted king is known to do) or chicken breast if you can stomach it in the am on the side as opposed to protein powder. I use protein powder when I need to because it's cheaper/quicker (and I do recognize the importance of protein), but ultimately in my opinion you should always be striving to get any nutrient from real foods as opposed to processed, unregulated supplements. and if you are going to use powder, get the unflavored stuff and add your own brown sugar/honey/maple syrup to your oatmeal.

article sounds interesting from the abstract, will read. not surprising though, to be honest. whole foods, ftw.

gsteinb

it's by weight class

misterwaterfall

Cool. I eat 5 whites/1 whole egg every morning as well so I have the protein part figured out. I add the powder for some non sugar flavoring, usually only a couple tablespoons worth

rkwaki

In bodybuilding to be competitive based on my height and frame I would have to compete as either a heavyweight (206-223) or a superheavy (224+). Based on current size and bodyfat I would compete as a heavy but those guys are often 3-4" shorter than I am which makes them beasts.

In the powerlifting circle I would be in similar weight classes but a little on the lean side for what many of them compete at (there are exceptions) which again does not work to my favor due to joint issues etc. I could however compete in Masters (age group 40-44) which could be interesting but again the drug use is rampant but I did fire off a pretty heavy squat at 232.

mike868y

and how do you think the flavoring gets into the protein powder?


(hint: it's probably worse for you than normal sugar)

rkwaki

https://www.mnn.com/food/healthy-eati...lla-substitute

Creakyknees

"fecal transplant"