Search
Notices
"The 33"-Road Bike Racing We set this forum up for our members to discuss their experiences in either pro or amateur racing, whether they are the big races, or even the small backyard races. Don't forget to update all the members with your own race results.

Racer Tech Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-10-16 | 01:17 PM
  #3826  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,449
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by echappist
thanks for the reply. the issue here is how do you get the head of the e-tube cables through the exit ports designed for inner cables. The diameter of the head of the e-tube cables is about the same as that of derailleur cable housing, which get stuck (as it should) and can't move into the chain stay. I now need the di2 cable to do just that; it's not the cable, per se, that's the issue; rather, it's the head.
ah, ok--so it's not designed for full-length housing internally.

is it just a cable stop? i'd just enlarge that to 5mm so the connector of the e-tube cable fits in. just did that on a MTB a couple weeks ago.

derailleur cable housing is 4mm; brake cable housing is 5mm. e-tube connectors are 5mm (5.02mm for the one i've got here on my desk.)
tetonrider is offline  
Reply
Old 08-10-16 | 01:18 PM
  #3827  
Flatballer's Avatar
No matches
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 11,647
Likes: 444
From: Eastern PA

Bikes: two wheeled ones

I don't have Di2, but the only general soldering type I usually give is to make sure you're getting the wire hot enough to wick the solder on properly and not end up with a cold solder.

I haven't soldered lately, but I find it extremely calming, like wheel truing or something. The solder wicks on beautifully, everything is nice and clean, it smells wonderful, it's functional. I love it. I always had the prettiest solder jobs in class. Surface mount is a ton of fun too. It looks like it would be hard, but you just put a bunch of solder on, and then wick a bunch back off with a wick, leaving the right amount.

/geek thread
Flatballer is offline  
Reply
Old 08-10-16 | 02:06 PM
  #3828  
fuggitivo solitario
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 9,107
Likes: 13
From: Northern NJ
Originally Posted by tetonrider
ah, ok--so it's not designed for full-length housing internally.

is it just a cable stop? i'd just enlarge that to 5mm so the connector of the e-tube cable fits in. just did that on a MTB a couple weeks ago.

derailleur cable housing is 4mm; brake cable housing is 5mm. e-tube connectors are 5mm (5.02mm for the one i've got here on my desk.)
yep, just a cable stop. i guess by enlarging, a drill would be used? do you happen to know if this may structurally weaken the tube?

Originally Posted by Flatballer
I don't have Di2, but the only general soldering type I usually give is to make sure you're getting the wire hot enough to wick the solder on properly and not end up with a cold solder.

I haven't soldered lately, but I find it extremely calming, like wheel truing or something. The solder wicks on beautifully, everything is nice and clean, it smells wonderful, it's functional. I love it. I always had the prettiest solder jobs in class. Surface mount is a ton of fun too. It looks like it would be hard, but you just put a bunch of solder on, and then wick a bunch back off with a wick, leaving the right amount.

/geek thread
agreed on the latter. it is quite calming to do.
echappist is offline  
Reply
Old 08-10-16 | 11:04 PM
  #3829  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,449
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by echappist
yep, just a cable stop. i guess by enlarging, a drill would be used? do you happen to know if this may structurally weaken the tube?
of course i don't know the specifics of your frame (which frame is it?), but generally speaking the tubes are hollow and the cable stops have been pressed or bonded in. since that segment you mentioned is designed for inner cables only, i'd bet a good amount of money the tube is just straight-up hollow.

the cable stops would not be structural, then.

if it were me, i'd take a very small drill bit and enlarge the existing hole, then increase the size by 1mm or so (or the imperial equivalent--maybe 3/16") until i reached the smallest size that will allow the e-tube wire.

it's probably a plastic stop. high speed with even pressure should do the trick. a dremel with appropriate bit will work, too.

if you don't own the tools it could be a good way/easy project to justify buying the tools rather than paying someone.

don't forget a small rubber grommet to seal that exit from the frame.

in the time it took me to type this one could have completed it; it's pretty easy.

Last edited by tetonrider; 08-10-16 at 11:10 PM.
tetonrider is offline  
Reply
Old 08-11-16 | 05:52 AM
  #3830  
fuggitivo solitario
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 9,107
Likes: 13
From: Northern NJ
thanks for typing that up!

i needed a second opinion on whether this would be safe/easy to do.
echappist is offline  
Reply
Old 08-13-16 | 10:49 AM
  #3831  
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,302
Likes: 1
From: ?

Bikes: i may have bike(s)

I had been looking for a replacement front wheel for my Enve 65 tubular as it is very sketch in a cross wind. It is not that it gets pushed so much as it gets buffeted/wobbly in those conditions. I found a Bonty aeolus 50 mm tubular with the new wide rim style for a song on ST. First hard ride today on the shootout with some wind and it is leagues better than the Enve. The braking is slightly better as well, but doesn't hold a candle to alloy of course.

<stoked>
beatlebee is offline  
Reply
Old 08-13-16 | 03:11 PM
  #3832  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,449
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by echappist
thanks for typing that up!

i needed a second opinion on whether this would be safe/easy to do.
am i the first opinion or the second opinion? do we count your own opinion as #1?

in healthcare usually the 2nd doctor is the 2nd opinion, right?
tetonrider is offline  
Reply
Old 08-14-16 | 12:31 PM
  #3833  
fuggitivo solitario
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 9,107
Likes: 13
From: Northern NJ
first opinion is the bike shop, who thought that drilling/widening the exit port shouldn't be too big of a hassle. I wasn't sure if that should be taken with a grain of salt and if there are other factors that need to be considered. I think that if it's indeed a bonded part, than the work becomes a bit less scary.
echappist is offline  
Reply
Old 08-14-16 | 05:21 PM
  #3834  
revchuck's Avatar
OMC
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 6,973
Likes: 142
From: South Louisiana

Bikes: Specialized Allez Sprint, Look 585, Specialized Crux E5 Sport, Trek Domane SL6

I've got a Garmin 520 and updated it yesterday with the current version of the software (7.00). I did the first ride with the updated software today on a route with ~2500 feet of climbing - it's what passes for a climbing route in Louisiana. The Garmin under-recorded the elevation change by a factor of about 5; it showed 472 feet. It was also raining for about half of the 3:25 ride.

Has anyone else seen this with the new software update? Would the rain screw it up that much?
__________________
Regards,
Chuck

Demain, on roule!
revchuck is offline  
Reply
Old 08-14-16 | 05:44 PM
  #3835  
fuggitivo solitario
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 9,107
Likes: 13
From: Northern NJ
the altimeter is a barometric sensor, so rain would screw it up

more annoying is that it reset my display settings...
echappist is offline  
Reply
Old 08-14-16 | 08:54 PM
  #3836  
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 15,410
Likes: 189
From: Tariffville, CT

Bikes: Tsunami road bikes, Dolan DF4 track

I think I must have borked up my SRM. Ugh. Battery good, no cadence, no power, so probably reed switch or I fried the board or something. I have a spare but I need to transfer the battery as I used my last good battery in the spider that's not working. Then I need to do the whole weights/scale thing as I don't remember the offset for that one.
__________________
"...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson
carpediemracing is offline  
Reply
Old 08-14-16 | 09:25 PM
  #3837  
mattm's Avatar
**** that
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,402
Likes: 106
From: CALI
Originally Posted by revchuck
I've got a Garmin 520 and updated it yesterday with the current version of the software (7.00). I did the first ride with the updated software today on a route with ~2500 feet of climbing - it's what passes for a climbing route in Louisiana. The Garmin under-recorded the elevation change by a factor of about 5; it showed 472 feet. It was also raining for about half of the 3:25 ride.

Has anyone else seen this with the new software update? Would the rain screw it up that much?
Are you sure the 2500' baseline for this ride is correct?
__________________
cat 1.

my race videos
mattm is offline  
Reply
Old 08-15-16 | 04:50 AM
  #3838  
revchuck's Avatar
OMC
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 6,973
Likes: 142
From: South Louisiana

Bikes: Specialized Allez Sprint, Look 585, Specialized Crux E5 Sport, Trek Domane SL6

Yup. It's a 34-mile circuit that I've done several times (did a lap and not quite half another, then back, yesterday). It's consistently been about 1700' per lap in the past.
__________________
Regards,
Chuck

Demain, on roule!
revchuck is offline  
Reply
Old 08-15-16 | 09:58 AM
  #3839  
TheKillerPenguin's Avatar
Nonsense
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 13,918
Likes: 542
From: Vagabond

Bikes: Affirmative

My garmin borks elevation if there is rain, i assume it is related to drastic drops in barometric pressure
TheKillerPenguin is offline  
Reply
Old 08-15-16 | 05:10 PM
  #3840  
dz_nuzz's Avatar
Rides too much bike
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 842
Likes: 0
From: Boston
Yeah that is pretty common. I have gotten that on a bunch of my Garmins. It also happens if the day starts out really muggy and then gets nice and dry.

Bling mode: Splurged and got myself a S-Works Romin Evo (Upgraded from the Romin Evo Pro, I am "that guy" now). I even broke my caridnal rule about bike maintenance the day before my race and installed it. Thing was amazing, I know I love the Romin Evo but this one has less padding and I love the feel of it. Romin Evos always seemed to have just the right shape but just a bit too much padding. It is sort of annoying that they only make their minimal padding ones in the most expensive version.
dz_nuzz is offline  
Reply
Old 08-15-16 | 05:15 PM
  #3841  
Ygduf's Avatar
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,978
Likes: 4
From: Redwood City, CA

Bikes: aggressive agreement is what I ride.

Originally Posted by dz_nuzz
Romin Evos always seemed to have just the right shape but just a bit too much padding. It is sort of annoying that they only make their minimal padding ones in the most expensive version.
I have never had a better saddle than my s-works toupe that I peeled the pleather off and cleaned up. smooth carbon beneath and I couldn't be happier. I hope it never breaks. There's certainly nothing left on it that can wear.
Ygduf is offline  
Reply
Old 08-16-16 | 12:51 PM
  #3842  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,449
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Ygduf
I have never had a better saddle than my s-works toupe that I peeled the pleather off and cleaned up. smooth carbon beneath and I couldn't be happier. I hope it never breaks. There's certainly nothing left on it that can wear.
that was a great saddle. i still have one that is pretty banged up, been crashed multiple times....that i put on a hardtail MTB. i dremeled off those triangular tabs on the back. not sure why they were ever there.
tetonrider is offline  
Reply
Old 08-16-16 | 01:19 PM
  #3843  
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 15,410
Likes: 189
From: Tariffville, CT

Bikes: Tsunami road bikes, Dolan DF4 track

Moved battery to other SRM. Checked and made sure cadence worked before I installed crank by moving pick up back and forth over the right spot. Power doesn't work at that point but I did get a random reading. Installed crank. No cadence/power. Arg.
__________________
"...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson
carpediemracing is offline  
Reply
Old 08-16-16 | 01:34 PM
  #3844  
caloso's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 40,863
Likes: 3,116
From: Sacramento, California, USA

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur

Originally Posted by dz_nuzz
Yeah that is pretty common. I have gotten that on a bunch of my Garmins. It also happens if the day starts out really muggy and then gets nice and dry.

Bling mode: Splurged and got myself a S-Works Romin Evo (Upgraded from the Romin Evo Pro, I am "that guy" now). I even broke my caridnal rule about bike maintenance the day before my race and installed it. Thing was amazing, I know I love the Romin Evo but this one has less padding and I love the feel of it. Romin Evos always seemed to have just the right shape but just a bit too much padding. It is sort of annoying that they only make their minimal padding ones in the most expensive version.
Gotta pay more for less. Seems to be the cardinal rule of bike stuff.
caloso is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-16 | 02:05 AM
  #3845  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,449
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by caloso
Gotta pay more for less. Seems to be the cardinal rule of bike stuff.
yeah--we should pay less for lighter frames, too. they use less material, right?

[MENTION=360087]dz_nuzz[/MENTION] -- you're gunna be happy. that saddle should last a long time, and if it doesn't spz are very good at swapping out SW products.
tetonrider is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-16 | 06:02 AM
  #3846  
Harlan's Avatar
Tyrannosaurus Rexitis
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 934
Likes: 0
From: Cape Cod, MA

Bikes: Scott Addict 6870

Coffers are full again, PM shopping. Wish I needed a standard crank because Jensen has Pioneer left/right 6800 for $800 ($48 back with Active Junky). Not going Stages, would consider Pioneer left only. What does the magnet do for Pioneer? I read you don't need it.
Harlan is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-16 | 06:19 AM
  #3847  
fuggitivo solitario
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 9,107
Likes: 13
From: Northern NJ
Originally Posted by Harlan
Coffers are full again, PM shopping. Wish I needed a standard crank because Jensen has Pioneer left/right 6800 for $800 ($48 back with Active Junky). Not going Stages, would consider Pioneer left only. What does the magnet do for Pioneer? I read you don't need it.
i thought you could easily swap the rings to a 50/34t?
echappist is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-16 | 07:13 AM
  #3848  
topflightpro's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 7,623
Likes: 736
From what I recall, you "Can" swap rings on a Pioneer set, but my understanding is that it is not as simple just unscrewing chainring bolts and putting on new chainrings. The PM contraption gets in the way. I don't remember the details, but it's apparently a pretty complicated ordeal.

Harlan, why not look for a used SRM. I bought one of mine used. It's been solid, and was cheaper than a Stages.

Last edited by topflightpro; 08-17-16 at 07:25 AM.
topflightpro is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-16 | 08:12 AM
  #3849  
Flatballer's Avatar
No matches
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 11,647
Likes: 444
From: Eastern PA

Bikes: two wheeled ones

I also don't think you can put compact rings on a standard spider. The BCD on a compact is smaller because they just won't physically fit otherwise.
Flatballer is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-16 | 08:22 AM
  #3850  
revchuck's Avatar
OMC
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 6,973
Likes: 142
From: South Louisiana

Bikes: Specialized Allez Sprint, Look 585, Specialized Crux E5 Sport, Trek Domane SL6

Originally Posted by Harlan
Coffers are full again, PM shopping. Wish I needed a standard crank because Jensen has Pioneer left/right 6800 for $800 ($48 back with Active Junky). Not going Stages, would consider Pioneer left only. What does the magnet do for Pioneer? I read you don't need it.
Another possibility in the same price range would be the Powertap chainring PM. From what I've read they've been solid. They require a five-bolt 110 BCD crank.
__________________
Regards,
Chuck

Demain, on roule!
revchuck is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.