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11-01-16, 10:57 AM
#101
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We're talking about those bicyclists who DON'T SLOW DOWN before they blow the red light or stop sign. I see them on a fairly frequent basis and it's astounding that more of them don't get hit. Luckily for them the drivers are alert enough to take evasive action to avoid hitting them although on a few occasions I've seen where that evasive action to avoid hitting the bicyclist led to a motor vehicle to motor vehicle collision instead. I know some drivers who say they'd hit the bicyclist rather than risk their (the driver's) life by trying to avoid them.
Red light and stop sign runners will rationalize until Hell freezes over that they don't cause problems for other road users. I've seen differently. I just hope the red light and stop sign runners here never get that run down feeling because they made an error in judgement.
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Red light and stop sign runners will rationalize until Hell freezes over that they don't cause problems for other road users. I've seen differently. I just hope the red light and stop sign runners here never get that run down feeling because they made an error in judgement.
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11-01-16, 11:05 AM
#102
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It would have an early expiration date, if it actually happened. If it did happen, I would not condone it. Maybe Bloor and Yonge and Manhattan are different. I have to think they are messengers or deliverymen, not your average civilian rider/commuter.
11-01-16, 01:04 PM
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11-01-16, 01:53 PM
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11-01-16, 02:02 PM
#105
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There are four previous pages in this thread (and countless other threads) where they imply that they do. Don't argue with me. It's that their judgement is better than everybody else's so they do that.
11-01-16, 07:43 PM
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No. You infer that they do. And you're incorrect. The number of bicyclists who trust motorists anywhere, let alone intersections, is infinitesimal and those that do are not around very long.
11-02-16, 03:00 AM
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One of the signal protected intersection on my way to work is pure mayhem. Bad things happen every time I have to (or decide to) wait for a green there. I even started a thread about it here on A&S. So I decided to try the next street over, which puts me on a quiet back street in a bad neighborhood cycling about 3 blocks contraflow instead. I have to cross the same busy street but at a stop sign instead of a traffic signal. [sarcasm on] How on Earth will I be able to cross that busy street without a green light? [sarcasm off] I just look for traffic and go when there is no traffic. Exactly the same thing I was doing at the Hell-spawn intersection with the signal. It's the SAME PROCEDURE. Look both ways...go when it is clear. How freaking difficult is this to grasp?
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11-02-16, 11:41 AM
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Well, you can ask any one of them why they continue to run red lights if they also don't trust the motorists' reaction. I certainly don't run through reds. I stop at all red lights and stop signs and yet, I'm still around to tell the tale.
11-02-16, 12:16 PM
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[QUOTE=Daniel4;19164481]Well, you can ask any one of them why they continue to run red lights if they also don't trust the motorists' reaction. I certainly don't run through reds. I stop at all red lights and stop signs and yet, I'm still around to tell the tale.[/QUOTE
I go through red lights. I do not ever trust motorists. I go through because there are no motorists there.
I go through red lights. I do not ever trust motorists. I go through because there are no motorists there.
11-03-16, 02:40 PM
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We stop too.
Nobody here barrels into an intersection without looking. If we see cars, we stop. If we're not sure, we stop. I'm sure that a few morons out there don't do this, but not very many.
Even here in NYC it's very rare for a cyclist to be killed crossing an intersection like that--if they just barreled in, it'd be common.
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11-03-16, 03:27 PM
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May sound odd, but it is safer running a red light with no motorist around than it is riding through a green light with motorist around.
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11-03-16, 03:31 PM
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None of us wants to get hurt. This isn't even an assumption. Any cyclist who would depend on other traffic to save them is already dead and not posting here.
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11-07-16, 01:00 AM
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Our voter turnout is usually pretty pathetic so if the deceased can provide ID to register, more power to them.
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11-07-16, 09:39 AM
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It would seem odd only to OCD affected would-be McGruffs who have no idea about properly evaluating bicycling safety hyped up on fighting Bicycling Crime/Scofflaws.
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11-07-16, 06:06 PM
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incazzare.
If it starts to happen with any regularity I'll worry about it.
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11-07-16, 06:50 PM
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11-08-16, 01:26 PM
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incazzare.
I'm not sure what you're referring to. Are you deceased?!
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11-08-16, 09:04 PM
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No, I am definitely alive. You see, for 20 years while on active duty, I voted each election by absentee ballot in Florida. During the Bush-Gore rumble when Gore was trying to invalidate my ballot, Orange County , Florida admitted that they did not bother counting any of my ballots for those 20 years.
So dead votes count but living military votes do not count.
So dead votes count but living military votes do not count.
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11-09-16, 01:19 PM
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I live in a Red state. I never vote Red and almost always third party. So in effect, my vote doesn't count either. Maybe it gets counted but voting for me is just going through the motions. Not even sure why I bother.
In Florida it is a little more urgent to count your vote. Sucks that they can't handle a simple "show of hands" count for something important in a state where voting really matters.
In Florida it is a little more urgent to count your vote. Sucks that they can't handle a simple "show of hands" count for something important in a state where voting really matters.
11-09-16, 01:34 PM
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I live in a Red state. I never vote Red and almost always third party. So in effect, my vote doesn't count either. Maybe it gets counted but voting for me is just going through the motions. Not even sure why I bother.
In Florida it is a little more urgent to count your vote. Sucks that they can't handle a simple "show of hands" count for something important in a state where voting really matters.
In Florida it is a little more urgent to count your vote. Sucks that they can't handle a simple "show of hands" count for something important in a state where voting really matters.
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11-09-16, 02:22 PM
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incazzare.
No, I am definitely alive. You see, for 20 years while on active duty, I voted each election by absentee ballot in Florida. During the Bush-Gore rumble when Gore was trying to invalidate my ballot, Orange County , Florida admitted that they did not bother counting any of my ballots for those 20 years.
So dead votes count but living military votes do not count.
So dead votes count but living military votes do not count.
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11-10-16, 02:35 PM
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11-10-16, 02:36 PM
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oh dear god, please, not another red light scofflaw shaming thread. Must i point out the obvious, that in no post thus far has a red light runner been killed or even injured! The majority of red light runners manage the issue of their safety and longevity a darn sight better than the mass of conformists that get t-boned, doored, right hooked, and other manners of roadway mischief. Get off my pip and sell salvation to the self-righteous toadies that need it.