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Old 08-24-09, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by nelson249
Like CB HI I do have reservations about the assertion that the cyclist being 'bodily removed'. A police officer may be justified in asking the cyclist to move along if he was sitting in traffic but no one else has the right or the authority to do so. It is difficult to discern the difference between an assault and someone being 'removed' from the context of your post.

But your point is taken about having regard for other road users.
You're correct. I could have been more clear. I was using the phrase as a rhetorical device.

It's hard to imagine how a citizen, even if he had the right to, could bodily remove an obstrcutionist cyclist without it becoming an assault. I had in mind a police officer, but again, hard to imagine a cyclist not moving on his way when asked to by someone in authority.

Even if he had the right to stay in the bike lane all day, the cyclist in question admits he was wrong to remain thru another signal change. I'm not much interested in the quibble about legal and moral or thoughtful behavior in this context. My concern, OUR concern, should be for protecting our rights and safety as wheelmen, which includes avoiding unnecessary antagonistic actions.
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Old 08-24-09, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gcottay
i take an approach exactly opposite to mr. Derespino's. At intersections where doing so can create a right turn lane i move as far left as seems safe while waiting for the light. Why not give right turners a break? If the light is green my approach is similar for my own safety. Moving left discourages right hooks.

In general, i think of bike lanes as effectively ending at intersections except for locations where the lane itself moves left to provide a right turn lane. Putting it another way, my mental lane narrows and moves left.

Using a bike lane to take a rest as lights cycle is just flat stupid. As noted, we have enough problems with poorly designed and abused lanes without creating our own issues.

I hope the attacker enjoys jail time and a long course of anger management.
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Old 08-24-09, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Pepper Grinder

I personally think the California way is the better way, since having cars merge into the bike lane before a turn makes it impossible to right hook since motorists are never turning across the bike lane, they're turning from it.
Exactly right. Right-turning vehicles of all types should be queued in single file well before the turn.

Even if you are not a hard-core vehicular cyclist, it's best to behave like one at intersections.

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Old 08-24-09, 02:57 PM
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The right sided madness HAS to stop.
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