The part, the tool...or me?
08-10-16, 06:42 PM
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The part, the tool...or me?
I have '94 Stumpjumper. I'm trying to remove the cassette. I bought a Park Tool removal tool and so far, I'm a big ol' failure at cassette removal.
The whole drivetrain is Deore XT, and AFAIK, the cassette is original equipment.
The splines on the tool seem to line up correctly with the locknut, but won't really grab hold. It will catch, but just barely. I can't get enough of a bite to loosen the locknut.
The tool was from Nashbar, and was indicated for Shimano (FR-1.2).
From this limited info, can you say whether I got the wrong tool, I have a jacked-up locknut, or I shouldn't wrench on bikes without adult supervision?
The whole drivetrain is Deore XT, and AFAIK, the cassette is original equipment.
The splines on the tool seem to line up correctly with the locknut, but won't really grab hold. It will catch, but just barely. I can't get enough of a bite to loosen the locknut.
The tool was from Nashbar, and was indicated for Shimano (FR-1.2).
From this limited info, can you say whether I got the wrong tool, I have a jacked-up locknut, or I shouldn't wrench on bikes without adult supervision?
08-10-16, 06:58 PM
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...I can only tell you that the tool needs to drop in farther than you describe. It's either the wrong tool or there's some obstruction in the ring teeth or inside where it needs to drop in. Is this one of the tools with a pilot pin, or is it just like a regular freewheel tool (no pin) ?
Sometimes you need to coax those babies a little with some love and stronger emotion to get them in there where they need to be.
(I reread that, and it sounds dirty.
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...I can only tell you that the tool needs to drop in farther than you describe. It's either the wrong tool or there's some obstruction in the ring teeth or inside where it needs to drop in. Is this one of the tools with a pilot pin, or is it just like a regular freewheel tool (no pin) ?
Sometimes you need to coax those babies a little with some love and stronger emotion to get them in there where they need to be.
(I reread that, and it sounds dirty.
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08-10-16, 07:00 PM
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The FR-1.2 is a freewheel remover, if you have a cassette you need a cassette lockring remover. You probably need an FR-5 or equivalent.
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There's no pin; it's basically just a socket.
It seems to be the right tool, but it just aaaallllllmost locks in.
I thought about a little coaxing, but I tend to go gorilla and break stuff.
It seems to be the right tool, but it just aaaallllllmost locks in.
I thought about a little coaxing, but I tend to go gorilla and break stuff.
08-10-16, 07:13 PM
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Use the QR.
Use the QR to hold the cassett tool in place. Put the cassett tool on, then slide the QR into it's usual place and tighten it up as usual. Don't gorilla it! You can actually use an old QR.
08-10-16, 07:25 PM
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I'm afraid I just got the wrong tool.
Thanks for the tip.
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08-10-16, 08:07 PM
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Leave the skewer 1/3 turn loose and try to initially back off the lock ring a LITTLE BIT.
Readjust the skewer & repeat. You'll get the idea once you do it.
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I have '94 Stumpjumper. I'm trying to remove the cassette. I bought a Park Tool removal tool and so far, I'm a big ol' failure at cassette removal.
The whole drivetrain is Deore XT, and AFAIK, the cassette is original equipment.
The splines on the tool seem to line up correctly with the locknut, but won't really grab hold. It will catch, but just barely. I can't get enough of a bite to loosen the locknut.
The tool was from Nashbar, and was indicated for Shimano (FR-1.2).
From this limited info, can you say whether I got the wrong tool, I have a jacked-up locknut, or I shouldn't wrench on bikes without adult supervision?
The whole drivetrain is Deore XT, and AFAIK, the cassette is original equipment.
The splines on the tool seem to line up correctly with the locknut, but won't really grab hold. It will catch, but just barely. I can't get enough of a bite to loosen the locknut.
The tool was from Nashbar, and was indicated for Shimano (FR-1.2).
From this limited info, can you say whether I got the wrong tool, I have a jacked-up locknut, or I shouldn't wrench on bikes without adult supervision?
Edited to add: I'm a noob mechanic too, but I have successfully removed and installed a few cassettes on mid 90s MTBs
08-10-16, 10:29 PM
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But, the imported ones are quite cheap now.
08-11-16, 04:20 AM
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Yes, I have a chain whip. I guess I didn't mention it because it's functioning fine.
08-11-16, 05:47 PM
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Nuts.
Have you removed all of the nuts on the axle 'cept the cone? You may not be seated all the way in.
Any pics?
Any pics?
08-11-16, 05:58 PM
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Shimano freewheel removers and cassette lockring tools are very similar in appearance but are not identical and don't work well interchangeably.
08-11-16, 06:42 PM
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Unfortunately, my iPhone and this site get along worse than my lockring and my FR-1. I'll keep trying.
08-11-16, 06:44 PM
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Well, thankya. Appearances aside, I'm not completely inept mechanically. On the other hand, I'm not completely ept, either.
This is is a project bike that I'm not in a screaming hurry to get finished, so I have time to wait for tools and parts. I'm just hoping it's worth it in the end. I think it will be.
This is is a project bike that I'm not in a screaming hurry to get finished, so I have time to wait for tools and parts. I'm just hoping it's worth it in the end. I think it will be.
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My apologies for resurrecting a dead thread, but I just wanted to give a big ol' internet "attaboy" to those who offered advice.
Got the proper tool for the job, and the cassette removal went smoothly. I'm well on my way to either a cleaner, better performing bike or a random pile of assorted parts.
In any case, thanks.
Got the proper tool for the job, and the cassette removal went smoothly. I'm well on my way to either a cleaner, better performing bike or a random pile of assorted parts.
In any case, thanks.
08-17-16, 10:42 AM
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My apologies for resurrecting a dead thread, but I just wanted to give a big ol' internet "attaboy" to those who offered advice.
Got the proper tool for the job, and the cassette removal went smoothly. I'm well on my way to either a cleaner, better performing bike or a random pile of assorted parts.
In any case, thanks.
Got the proper tool for the job, and the cassette removal went smoothly. I'm well on my way to either a cleaner, better performing bike or a random pile of assorted parts.
In any case, thanks.
