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Old 05-09-10 | 09:44 PM
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Vibration when braking

Road bike with caliper style brakes. The brake pads have about 3000 miles on them, but still look good. My wheels, with KinLin XR-300 rims, are new, and have vibrated while braking since day one.

The vibration seems to be 2-3 times per wheel revolution, so it is most noticeable at high speed.

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Old 05-09-10 | 09:47 PM
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I should add that the wheels are perfectly true, and that I have cleaned and lightly sanded the brake pads.
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Old 05-09-10 | 09:51 PM
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Wipe down the rim braking surface with rubbing alcohol. Check brakepads closely for imbedded debris. Brake pads may be toed in too far.
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Old 05-09-10 | 09:57 PM
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Your brakes are road calipers. U brakes are a completely different type of brake, much like a conventional cantilever (but different), mounted beneath the chainstays on mountain bikes. They were a flash in the pan, installed on mountain bikes in the very late '80's.

My guess regarding your vibration would be a loose headset(for front brake) or the brake is loose in the mount and needs to be tightened up.
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Old 05-09-10 | 11:28 PM
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Possible causes:

1. loose headset
2. loose wheel bearings
3. loose brake-caliper centre bolt
4. loose brake-caliper arms
5. rim-width not consistent all the way around, although this is more likely with an old beat-up bike. The telltale sign of this is the frequency of the shuddering occurs once per wheel-revolution, usually around the seam area.
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Originally Posted by DArthurBrown
Road bike with caliper style "U-brakes". The brake pads have about 3000 miles on them, but still look good. My wheels, with KinLin XR-300 rims, are new, and have vibrated while braking since day one.

The vibration seems to be 2-3 times per wheel revolution, so it is most noticeable at high speed.

Any ideas?
What sort of brake pads? I had a similar problem with Kool-Stop salmon pads which went away when I installed Kool-Stop black pads. After the rim wore in, I put the salmon pads back on and they worked great.
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Old 05-10-10 | 12:32 AM
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They're Shimano pads. They've been on the bike for a while, but the wheels are new, and when I changed the wheels I started noticing the vibration.
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Old 05-11-10 | 12:16 AM
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Use schochbrite (red) to clean the rim's braking surfaces and brake pads. Check trueness of rim with a dial gauge. A 0.010" "blimp" is noticeable with light braking around +15 mph. You may have several blimps on the rim (2-3x per revolution). Replace the pads if problem persists.
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Old 05-15-10 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by furballi
Check trueness of rim with a dial gauge. A 0.010" "blimp" is noticeable with light braking around +15 mph. You may have several blimps on the rim (2-3x per revolution).
I'm assuming by "blimp" you mean a spot where the rim is wider. That's exactly what I have 3-4 spots around the rim appear to be about 0.2-0.25 mm wider than the other sections. Will replacing the pads help wear the rim evenly?
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Old 05-15-10 | 01:36 PM
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New pads will not cure vibration caused by "blimp". Remove wheel and tire from bike. Use plastic mallet to reduce "blimp". Put a 12" piece of wood against other side of the rim so you don't damage the other side of the rim.
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Old 05-15-10 | 01:38 PM
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harder black pads would smooth out any protrusions.
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