Shifter/Derailleur Cables
#1
Shifter/Derailleur Cables
I am thinking about changing the cables on my road bike. I have heard good things about Jagwire Racer, but I have no experience with it. If cost are about the same for the Jagwire Racer and Shimano Dura Ace cablesets, which would you -as a mechanic- choose/prefer?
Thanks for all responses.
Thanks for all responses.
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From: Tucson, Arizona
Bikes: '02 Lemond Buenos Aires, '98 Fuji Touring w/ Shimano Nexus premium, '06 Jamis Nova 853 cross frame set up as commuter, '03 Fuji Roubaix Pro 853 back up training bike
"Slick" cables are die-drawn. They have a smoother surface than simply cables consisting of smaller twisted wires. I don't think DA cables are die-drawn, so the Racer cables might be smoother and hold less gunk. The Racer's sealed ferrules can create more resistance on the cable. Sealing might be a benefit if you're mountain biking in wet conditions, but regular ferrules are perfectly fine for all other applications.
Sometimes you have to use longer lengths of linear housing to prevent the individual strands from poking through at the ends over time. If the Racer's LEX housing uses a weave, this might eliminate that problem.
If the price is the same, a good compromise would be to use the Racer system with regular, unsealed ferrules.
Sometimes you have to use longer lengths of linear housing to prevent the individual strands from poking through at the ends over time. If the Racer's LEX housing uses a weave, this might eliminate that problem.
If the price is the same, a good compromise would be to use the Racer system with regular, unsealed ferrules.
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From: The 'Wack, BC, Canada
Bikes: Norco (2), Miyata, Canondale, Soma, Redline
I have easily noticed that the "slick" die drawn smooth cables are way better than just regular round strand cables. But from there it seems to be mostly mumbo jumbo when you move up to teflon or other coated cables. I've used a couple of such cables in the past and didn't notice any real world improvement in feel over just the smooth drawn regular "slick" cable. However I will say that I've also had noticable improvement in feel when using premium housings. I really liked the old Jagwire kevlar wound housings that were made similar to shifter housing with longitudinal support strands. They really hardened up the brake system feel. No noticable difference on the shifter systems though.
One thing I've noticed with shifter systems is that they do respond well to regular replacements of the housing regardless of which cables you use. The smaller cable seems to cut into the plastic housing lining more easily and when that happens it begins to bind things up. It seems that by the time a cable requires changing on a shifter that the housing needs to be changed as well if you want to restore things to a like new snappy feel to the system.
One thing I've noticed with shifter systems is that they do respond well to regular replacements of the housing regardless of which cables you use. The smaller cable seems to cut into the plastic housing lining more easily and when that happens it begins to bind things up. It seems that by the time a cable requires changing on a shifter that the housing needs to be changed as well if you want to restore things to a like new snappy feel to the system.
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From: Tucson, Arizona
Bikes: '02 Lemond Buenos Aires, '98 Fuji Touring w/ Shimano Nexus premium, '06 Jamis Nova 853 cross frame set up as commuter, '03 Fuji Roubaix Pro 853 back up training bike
I have easily noticed that the "slick" die drawn smooth cables are way better than just regular round strand cables. But from there it seems to be mostly mumbo jumbo when you move up to teflon or other coated cables. I've used a couple of such cables in the past and didn't notice any real world improvement in feel over just the smooth drawn regular "slick" cable. However I will say that I've also had noticable improvement in feel when using premium housings. I really liked the old Jagwire kevlar wound housings that were made similar to shifter housing with longitudinal support strands. They really hardened up the brake system feel. No noticable difference on the shifter systems though.
One thing I've noticed with shifter systems is that they do respond well to regular replacements of the housing regardless of which cables you use. The smaller cable seems to cut into the plastic housing lining more easily and when that happens it begins to bind things up. It seems that by the time a cable requires changing on a shifter that the housing needs to be changed as well if you want to restore things to a like new snappy feel to the system.
One thing I've noticed with shifter systems is that they do respond well to regular replacements of the housing regardless of which cables you use. The smaller cable seems to cut into the plastic housing lining more easily and when that happens it begins to bind things up. It seems that by the time a cable requires changing on a shifter that the housing needs to be changed as well if you want to restore things to a like new snappy feel to the system.
The "roughest" cables I've used are Campy brake cables. They're like guitar's low E string.





