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Old 12-18-10 | 11:28 AM
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bar end shifters compatability

i am putting some nashbar moustache bars on my 73 schwinn super sport, and would like to use bar end shifters. i was thinking something like Shimano Dura Ace 10 Speed Bar End Shifters SL-BS78.. can i use these shifters with the original 10 speed gear/derailleur set up on the schwinn? or will something clash?

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Old 12-18-10 | 11:39 AM
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Assuming they are the correct diameter to fit in the moustache bars, they should certainly work in friction mode. But I think you're getting something confused. Your bike is a "ten-speed" meaning 2x5. The Dura Ace shifters you're looking at are "10-speed" meaning 10 gears in the back, so they'd be used in a 2x10 or 3x10 drivetrain. Things have changed since the 70s, and ten-speed doesn't always mean what it used to.

You don't need the 10-speed Dura Ace shifters, and I'm not sure there's any way to decently index your current setup without getting a new rear derailer and freewheel. Any bar-end shifters that offer friction mode (and I think most of them do) will work.
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Old 12-18-10 | 11:47 AM
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Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!

Your '73 Schwinn "10-speed", unless it's been heavily and recently upgraded, has a total of 10 speeds, i.e. 5 cogs in the rear and two chainrings in front. In modern terminology "10-speed" means 10 cogs in the rear alone which, combined with two or three chainrings, give a total of 20 or 30 "speeds".

So, those barend shifters will only work if you use them in "friction" mode and they are overkill for your bike. Try to find a set of older, less expensive barends which can be lebeled as 7,8 or 9-speed (all refering to the number of rear cogs) and all of these have the needed friction mode you need.

Edit: Apparently Fastjake is faster at typing than I am but note that we both told you the same things.
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Seek out some Sun tour power ratchet bar end shifters ,from the 70's~80's..
they are not indexed, you don't need indexing .

components of high end race bikes have been in a engineering race on the inter brand rivalry,
and have over done it IMHO,

Speed is the work you put into the pedals.
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Seek out some Sun tour power ratchet bar end shifters ,from the 70's~80's..
they are not indexed, you don't need indexing .

components of high end race bikes have been in a engineering race on the inter brand rivalry,
and have over done it IMHO,

Speed is the work you put into the pedals.
+1. Assuming the Super Sport has the original derailleurs, they wouldn't work with index shifters anyway. Suntour bar-cons work great, and they're appropriate for the bike:
https://www.velobase.com/ViewComponen...m=104&AbsPos=2


A modern alternative is the Dia-Compe Silver bar-end shifters:
https://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...-shifters.html
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Old 12-20-10 | 09:23 PM
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so i need these. right? cheaper and fit the biker better.

https://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Suntour-...item5ade0b1172
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those are missing the rubber ends .. I have a horde , wave generous money I respond.
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Old 12-21-10 | 07:32 AM
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those are missing the rubber ends .. I have a horde , wave generous money I respond.
a horde of rubber ends? or the whole set up?
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You can buy the plastic covers by the bagfull on eBay, but I think they look and feel better without them.
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a couple pairs of Whole levers..

Tin of plastidip hardware store tool handle stuff will coat them too,
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Old 12-21-10 | 06:00 PM
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great, would you do $35 on a pair??
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Old 12-21-10 | 06:01 PM
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Old 12-21-10 | 06:37 PM
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fietsbob, did you get a reply PM from me?? i don't think they will let me, don't have 50 posts....
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and i'm back down to 30...
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and i can't reply!!!!!!!!!!!
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I pinged a PM your way and got the location reply.
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I'm all about the Diacompe Silvers..but it looks like their prices have increased.
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hey everyone, i wanted to put some closure to this. got her all wrapped up and cabled out.. thanks again fietsbob.
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I hadn't seen those diacompe ones before, look like a good product.

I have a few sets of the 8 speed Shimano ones, and I run them in friction mode (Who REALLY needs indexing anyway? ). Love them to death, and you can occasionally find them online for less than $70.
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