Changing from drop bars to flat, What components to use
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Changing from drop bars to flat, What components to use
Hello,
I want to change from drop bars on my Specialized Sectuer to flat bars. The components on it now are Shimano 105's and it is a 10 speed in back by 2 speed in front. What components could I use on the flat bars that would be compatible? I would like them to be high quality.
Thanks a bunch
Dennis
I want to change from drop bars on my Specialized Sectuer to flat bars. The components on it now are Shimano 105's and it is a 10 speed in back by 2 speed in front. What components could I use on the flat bars that would be compatible? I would like them to be high quality.
Thanks a bunch
Dennis
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I will be the first in advising you not to do this you will gain basicaly nothing and spend a lot of money basicaly downgrading your bike. For getting a slightly wider more upright bar postion I suggest you seriously consider changing to wider bars with a flatter curve maybe even mustahce and maybe different stem either shorter or longer more or less upright to get a more ideal upright riding postion.
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You will need new shifters and new brake levers since brifters made for drop bars have the wrong size clamps. Also, you will probably need "flat bar road bike" shifters as MTB front shifters aren't compatible with a road front derailleur although, with a double crank, an MTB front shifter may be workable.
You will also probably need a new stem unless your new and old bars have the same clamp diameter.
You will also probably need a new stem unless your new and old bars have the same clamp diameter.
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You can look through this list of Shimano "Flat Handle Bar Components" to get model numbers to find prices for what you will need.
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I did that with my old Trek road bike... as I get older and stiffer I found I seldom used the drops and thought straight/flat bars would be more comfortable.
I found my neck liked the more upright attitude, but my hands and arms were very uncomfortable. I NEVER had hand or arm pain riding on drop bars, but I sure did on straight bars, especially after an hour or so. Bar ends helped somewhat, but are an extra expense.
Trekking bars look interesting and I would encourage you to look into those.
So... think twice before you drop a lot of cash on the conversion. I would probably not do it if I had it to do over again.
But to answer your question... I bought some Shimano combo brake-lever/shifters on Amazon for ~$15, bars were $25ish at the LBS, and grips and bar-ends. It all adds up. My bike is 3x7 and the older Shimano MTB stuff works fine.
Hope this helps!
I found my neck liked the more upright attitude, but my hands and arms were very uncomfortable. I NEVER had hand or arm pain riding on drop bars, but I sure did on straight bars, especially after an hour or so. Bar ends helped somewhat, but are an extra expense.
Trekking bars look interesting and I would encourage you to look into those.
So... think twice before you drop a lot of cash on the conversion. I would probably not do it if I had it to do over again.
But to answer your question... I bought some Shimano combo brake-lever/shifters on Amazon for ~$15, bars were $25ish at the LBS, and grips and bar-ends. It all adds up. My bike is 3x7 and the older Shimano MTB stuff works fine.
Hope this helps!
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Shimano tiagra flat-bar shifters and brakes will work fine for this conversion or you can use any other brake levers (for cantilevers, v-brake levers aren't compatible with road brakes) if you're looking to save a few bucks tektro makes some nice basic cantilever or bmx levers that might be cheaper than the tiagra brake levers. Any LBS in the world should be able to get the tiagra shifters for a similar price to the one I linked. Check your stem's clamp size and bar size before you order parts (an LBS can help you with this too) Unfortunately they don't make shimano flat-bar road stuff in black.
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You will need new shifters and new brake levers since brifters made for drop bars have the wrong size clamps. Also, you will probably need "flat bar road bike" shifters as MTB front shifters aren't compatible with a road front derailleur although, with a double crank, an MTB front shifter may be workable.
You will also probably need a new stem unless your new and old bars have the same clamp diameter.
You will also probably need a new stem unless your new and old bars have the same clamp diameter.
The difference between (Shimano) "road" and "mountain/flat-bar" shifters is that the "mountain" shifters pull more cable. This makes it tough for them to work properly with "road" derailleurs on triples. The OP may be able to get mountain shifters to work with his current front derailleur, but the best solution is to use a "flat-bar" front derailleur, like a Shimano FD-R440 or FD-R770. These are set up to work with the long cable pull but the cage is designed to work with larger "road" chainrings.
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I did this for my wife and it wasn't a big deal. Like most said, you will need new a flat handlebar, shifters, brake levers (unless they are an integral part of the shifters) and a new front derailleur; as mentioned the Shimano flat bar components are designed to do this and can usually be identified by an "R" in the model number. Here is a link to my blog that shows what I did..https://onespeedbiker.blogspot.com/20...onversion.html
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This is incorrect. Mountain "trigger" shifters and "flat-bar" shifters are 100% interchangeable. In fact, there's two bikes in my garage right now, one with "mountain" shifters and one with "flat-bar" shifters and otherwise identical setups. They work exactly the same.
The difference between (Shimano) "road" and "mountain/flat-bar" shifters is that the "mountain" shifters pull more cable. This makes it tough for them to work properly with "road" derailleurs on triples. The OP may be able to get mountain shifters to work with his current front derailleur, but the best solution is to use a "flat-bar" front derailleur, like a Shimano FD-R440 or FD-R770. These are set up to work with the long cable pull but the cage is designed to work with larger "road" chainrings.
The difference between (Shimano) "road" and "mountain/flat-bar" shifters is that the "mountain" shifters pull more cable. This makes it tough for them to work properly with "road" derailleurs on triples. The OP may be able to get mountain shifters to work with his current front derailleur, but the best solution is to use a "flat-bar" front derailleur, like a Shimano FD-R440 or FD-R770. These are set up to work with the long cable pull but the cage is designed to work with larger "road" chainrings.
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The difference between (Shimano) "road" and "mountain/flat-bar" shifters is that the "mountain" shifters pull more cable. This makes it tough for them to work properly with "road" derailleurs on triples. The OP may be able to get mountain shifters to work with his current front derailleur, but the best solution is to use a "flat-bar" front derailleur, like a Shimano FD-R440 or FD-R770. These are set up to work with the long cable pull but the cage is designed to work with larger "road" chainrings.
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Shimano and Campagnolo both have a 'Fitness Bike' group, essentially what your goal is ..
a road bike with straight handlebars .. Gregs, 5th post
you may need to seek out a European seller to find the straight bar shifter
to use with road bike derailleurs.
a road bike with straight handlebars .. Gregs, 5th post
you may need to seek out a European seller to find the straight bar shifter
to use with road bike derailleurs.
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And thanks to Hilly and OneSpeed for thwacking me upside the head with Dynasys. Sheesh.
FWIW: here's the two bikes I mentioned earlier. Both have FD-R443 front derailleurs and 9-speed rears. My bike has the "flat-bar" shifters while my wife's has Deore LX.
https://home.comcast.net/~jeff_wills/jeff-grr/index.htm
https://home.comcast.net/~jeff_wills/diane-grr/index.htm
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The 453 is rated to 50 tooth max with 20 tooth range this comes from shimano .
I'm trying to buy / locate the proper FD for my Ultrgra triple 9 sp 2004 vintage ( flat bar conversion ) & I'm running a 10 sp chain
At this time I need to count my big ring . I know my small is 30 . My shifters are xt 9 speed 2002 vintage
I'm trying to buy / locate the proper FD for my Ultrgra triple 9 sp 2004 vintage ( flat bar conversion ) & I'm running a 10 sp chain
At this time I need to count my big ring . I know my small is 30 . My shifters are xt 9 speed 2002 vintage
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I can tell you when I converted an Ultegra 9 speed bike with 52/42/32 crank, to a flatbar setup, I replaced a Ultegra triple front derailleur with a FD-R443 front derailleur and it worked (indexed) perfectly..here is the cut and paste from the Shimano website.https://www.shimano.com/publish/conte...andlebar.html#
9-Speed Flat Handlebar front derailleurs are specifically designed to run between the SL-R440-9 Rapidfire shift levers and Shimano 9-Speed road cranksets. Model FD-R440 is for double chainring systems. For triple chainring systems, use model FD-R443 (for 52T big ring) or model FD-R453 (for 50T big ring).
9-Speed Flat Handlebar front derailleurs are specifically designed to run between the SL-R440-9 Rapidfire shift levers and Shimano 9-Speed road cranksets. Model FD-R440 is for double chainring systems. For triple chainring systems, use model FD-R443 (for 52T big ring) or model FD-R453 (for 50T big ring).
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Here's something to try. Get a flat bar and mount the road shifters that you already have. You might need to shim them to get them to snug down. If your shifters have reach adjustment that will improve the odds of it working.
I have mounted road levers on an MTB compatible bar and they snugged down nicely, the bars were not flat bars though.
I have mounted road levers on an MTB compatible bar and they snugged down nicely, the bars were not flat bars though.
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I can tell you when I converted an Ultegra 9 speed bike with 52/42/32 crank, to a flatbar setup, I replaced a Ultegra triple front derailleur with a FD-R443 front derailleur and it worked (indexed) perfectly..here is the cut and paste from the Shimano website.https://www.shimano.com/publish/conte...andlebar.html#
9-Speed Flat Handlebar front derailleurs are specifically designed to run between the SL-R440-9 Rapidfire shift levers and Shimano 9-Speed road cranksets. Model FD-R440 is for double chainring systems. For triple chainring systems, use model FD-R443 (for 52T big ring) or model FD-R453 (for 50T big ring).
9-Speed Flat Handlebar front derailleurs are specifically designed to run between the SL-R440-9 Rapidfire shift levers and Shimano 9-Speed road cranksets. Model FD-R440 is for double chainring systems. For triple chainring systems, use model FD-R443 (for 52T big ring) or model FD-R453 (for 50T big ring).
then start shopping . I hope the XT FD I have is the right one
Cheers & I apologize for jacking the thread but I figure its all relevant to the original post
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Many thanks for everyone that posted. It's given me a lot to think about. I have to do some studying to understand all the information. Good thing I am not in a hurry.
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