Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Weak spring on old Suntour Cyclone derailleur

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Weak spring on old Suntour Cyclone derailleur

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-02-14 | 01:23 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 75
Likes: 14
Weak spring on old Suntour Cyclone derailleur

Everyone,

I'm refurbishing an old Sekai 2500 Grandtour, which has its original Suntour Cyclone rear derailleur. It's working well with a lube and new pulleys, but the spring does not seem to be able to move it to the smallest cog any more. Can this spring be replaced, or . . . ?

Thank you . . .
Jonathan Hanson is offline  
Reply
Old 04-02-14 | 01:41 PM
  #2  
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 43,586
Likes: 1,380
From: NW,Oregon Coast

Bikes: 8

got a Time Machine mr Wells, HG ?

Realistically? just buy a new RD..

... are you sure the high side limit screw was backed out fully?
fietsbob is offline  
Reply
Old 04-02-14 | 02:01 PM
  #3  
Newbie
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
From: Bemidji, MN

Bikes: Fuji S-12 s ltd ser# FI005453

When you remove the pulley cage, there are multiple slots to put the spring's upper tang into. Move it around a notch.
dsskoe is offline  
Reply
Old 04-02-14 | 02:01 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 39,897
Likes: 3,865
From: New Rochelle, NY

Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter

Originally Posted by Jonathan Hanson
Everyone,

I'm refurbishing an old Sekai 2500 Grandtour, which has its original Suntour Cyclone rear derailleur. It's working well with a lube and new pulleys, but the spring does not seem to be able to move it to the smallest cog any more. Can this spring be replaced, or . . . ?

Thank you . . .
I doubt it's the spring. Assuming you backed off the high gear limit, it's probably something binding the mechanism someplace. Remove the wheel, and work the derailleur in and out by pushing the bottom assembly, or pulling the cable away from the downtube like a bow string, ane letting it back slowly to see if there are sticky places.

Once you massaged the pantograph a bit it should work fine.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline  
Reply
Old 04-02-14 | 02:13 PM
  #5  
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 43,586
Likes: 1,380
From: NW,Oregon Coast

Bikes: 8

When you remove the pulley cage, there are multiple slots to put the spring's upper tang into. Move it around a notch.
thats chain wrap-up tension rather than lateral stroke , <guess>? he was talking return spring not pulling the full width of the stroke.
fietsbob is offline  
Reply
Old 04-02-14 | 02:37 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 6,682
Likes: 4
From: Above ground, Walnut Creek, Ca

Bikes: 8 ss bikes, 1 5-speed touring bike

i've had older derailleurs with the same problem, could even have been a Cyclone. anything that requires more oomph to return the parallelogram in the DR to a resting position will create a similar result. i've found that due to the lack of use of the smallest cog and consequently the lack of use of a fully collapsed parallelogram that a ridge can develop, due to wear, between the male portion of the parallelogram and the female portion, preventing it from collapsing completely, even if the spring tension id adequate or the the cable runs freely as it should. you might want to take a look at it. it's pretty obvious if it exists.

i remember having to give the RD a light kick with my foot in order to get it to drop into the small cog on occasion until i found the culprit. a little filing did the trick. of course, additional spring tension may remedy the situation, but with consequences that may not be acceptable.

Last edited by hueyhoolihan; 04-02-14 at 02:41 PM.
hueyhoolihan is offline  
Reply
Old 04-02-14 | 06:14 PM
  #7  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 75
Likes: 14
Thank you all very much for the help. I did make sure the stop screw was not the issue. I cleaned the derailleur before reinstalling it, but I'll go back and lube/exercise it again - and also look for those ridges.
Jonathan Hanson is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Aubergine
Bicycle Mechanics
11
05-02-18 02:40 PM
International B
Classic & Vintage
6
11-01-17 06:18 PM
Seizedpost
Classic & Vintage
4
07-21-16 10:38 AM
skoolieman
Bicycle Mechanics
4
05-18-15 11:07 AM
seedsbelize
Classic & Vintage
14
02-22-15 09:00 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.