gaucho777 

Any thoughts on value for this low-miles, all-original (save for consumables), fully-overhauled 1984 Peugeot PGN10? I'm in the price-inflated SF Bay area.

digger531

Pretty bike. Love the chrome fork. Sold almost the same bike, mine was a PGN11 if memory serves (not a US model). It had internal routing for the rear brake cable. I got $200 last spring. I had to replace the wheels and the rear derailleur. Good thing I only paid $10 for it

gaucho777 

Thanks. I'll see if I can find a PGN11 for comparison. I do hope to get more than $200. That hardly buys you a rusty piece of crap in the bay area (for example!)

bibliobob

That's a beauty. I'd take off the pie plate, and wouldn't accept less than $425 for it....

Is that your house? That's a beauty as well!

gaucho777 

^Thanks for the input, Bob. I wavered on the pie plate. It's embossed with "Maillard" (which I think is cool) and is in pristine condition, so I decided to leave it on. Normally I take off reflectors, too, but I thought it might be best to keep everything as original as possible.

No, not my house. It's a French-inspired apartment complex next to the UC Berkeley campus. There are several separate buildings connected with footpaths (seen in the pics above), and one building with a French rooster mural. I don't know the history of the place, but it definitely feels like you've stepped into the old world. It's my favorite spot to photograph French bikes!

gaucho777 

I asked my wife what she'd pay. She replied, "Why are you asking me? Umm...maybe $40?" Women!

Chombi

Last time Peugeots like the higher model PSV sold for $350 was something like three, four years ago. Since then, it's been much lower than that in this depressed market. More like $275 these days,
The PGN in the VGC being a step down model-wise might only expect around $250 max in most markets. Maybe if the economy gets better, these bikes will go up in value again, then, I might be more comfortable with the $300 quotes....
JMOs

oddjob2

One of my favorite bikes. Easily, north of $350. but you better put a new saddle on it, without corner wear/tear. Ebay comps below, $400 shipped. Since Northern California is so prosperous, you may get $400. Report back after the sale please! Good luck.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_saca...H_Sold=1&rt=nc

gaucho777 

I didn't notice that until you mentioned it. There is a small scuff, but no tear. I think it must have rubbed up against a dirty wall. I was able to wipe away most of what you see in the photo.

Btw, that ebay listing is curious. It appears to be a '84 model, however, I don't see the grub screw on the back of the seat tube. No seat binder bolt, so I'm guessing the bike has some kind of a replacement quill seat post. Wonky brake cables. Also looks like a replacement fork? Fork crown is wrong, and the clear border on the fork decal looks wrong.

Thanks again for all the input. Just listed for $395. Truth be told, I like fixing bikes more than dealing with CL riffraff. I'd rather get the bike out the door quickly, so I don't try to get max dollar. I've sold about a dozen bikes on CL. With one exception (I told the buyer the bike was too small for her), the bike was sold at or near my full asking price to the first person to test ride the bike. I'll report back when sold.

oddjob2

I think mine is a 1985, it has a quill seat post.

gaucho777 

That makes sense then. I think the ebay listing must have mis-identified that bike as an '84 model. Your fork and seat post match the ebay listing, but slightly different from my '84 model.

Chombi

1984 is the only year that Peugeot used the "grub screw" seatpost system on their steel bikes (idea most likely copied from Vitus, Although Vitus have their grub screw located in a much meatier aluminum seat lug area). I have it on my 84 PSV.
Frankly, not the best thing that Peugeot had come up for a seatpost clamping system for their bikes, as it can put a lot of stress on the seat tube and threaded boss area where it occurs. But it does work good enough as long it is not over tightened and maybe if the rider's weight isn't too high....but it still makes me nervous just looking at it even after all these years riding on it with no problems........yet(?).
The Atax quill seatpost solution they came up with a year later was much better functionally, although the use of Delrin parts on its rail clamp assembly is questionable...
Ehhhh.....1980's,....French,.....Peugeot.....there has to be some Delrin in there somewhere!...

zukahn1 

Will on this one despite basically being a mid level model it has a lot of positives that can increase price quit a bit. Small size with excellent cosmetics, good original condition, well known make model and it is in very good market. I think one could get reasonably get $400 out of the bike. Prices have come down quit a bit on nicer early 80's road bikes in most markets but prices in the better California markets are still fairly strong.

gaucho777 

For posterity, I sold the bike today for $350. I originally listed the bike under the heading "Vintage Peugeot PGN10 - Must See/Excellent Condition - Small." I had one flake after a few days. Disappointed by the lackluster response, I lowered the price from $395 to $375. Another few days went by, and I revised the heading to "Peugeot Road Bike - Classic & Beautiful - 52cm" and renewed the listing on Thursday. It occurred to me that PGN10 meant nothing to most buyers and that "Road Bike" would be far more useful. Immediately, a few responses ensued, and I made arrangements to show the bike on Friday after work. First respondent called on the way and asked if I would take a check, saying the bank was closed and he's already withdrawn money earlier in the day, yadda, yadda. Of course, I said no to a check, and started fearing another flake. Nonetheless, he said he was close by and would like to still see the bike. If he liked the bike, he said he would come back in the morning with cash. I didn't like the sound of it, but I didn't want to turn away a prospective buyer either. Sure enough, he liked the bike enough on Friday to show up today (Saturday) with cash.

CustomSteel

Congrats! It's definitely been harder to sell higher-priced bikes with the recession and all. You're absolutely right about the French alphanumeric model designations. When I bought my PH501, the seller had no idea what the bike model even was.

oddjob2

Not that I would part with my PGN 10, but thanks for the feedback Gaucho.

zukahn1 

I have noticed when selling bikes or bike parts buyers will pay a signicant premium if one knows lists the exact year. For me a could care little about this info if the stuff is quality but it is what buyers ant to know.

garykent

They were still using that one screw seat post up until 86. this is out of a 1985 Catalog