How do you say "Tange"?
04-19-16, 09:56 PM
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Just don't call it Doo Rotch Ay, at the bike shop.,,,,BD
I have a friend who says Tanj, and it drives me nuts. Of course he calls Campagnolo,, Campanelli, and Campanola, depending on the moment I am talking to him. Of course he calls everything a "group oh" too. I groan.
If you call a tortilla a Tore Tilla, or jalapeno Hal uh peen oh, I will throw a buh rhee toh at you....
I have a friend who says Tanj, and it drives me nuts. Of course he calls Campagnolo,, Campanelli, and Campanola, depending on the moment I am talking to him. Of course he calls everything a "group oh" too. I groan.
If you call a tortilla a Tore Tilla, or jalapeno Hal uh peen oh, I will throw a buh rhee toh at you....
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04-20-16, 08:40 AM
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Mmmm? The question was, how do you say "tange." @romperrr told you how he says it. What's wrong with that?
When I read the question, 'how do you say "Tange?"' I assumed it was meant for me. If you're not me, it means you. If you're Japanese, you might extrapolate to interpret the question as "how do you cats from Japan say "tange?" but otherwise, the question was about how you say it. Or, if you're me (which I am, and you're not), how I say it. Or, if you're romperrr, how he says it.
I, by the way, am not from Japan, so that was clearly not the question.
Anyway, to answer op's question, i do not pronounce the word. No one I speak with knows what it is or cares about its pronunciation. On the internet, spelling trumps pronunciation.
How do you say it?
When I read the question, 'how do you say "Tange?"' I assumed it was meant for me. If you're not me, it means you. If you're Japanese, you might extrapolate to interpret the question as "how do you cats from Japan say "tange?" but otherwise, the question was about how you say it. Or, if you're me (which I am, and you're not), how I say it. Or, if you're romperrr, how he says it.
I, by the way, am not from Japan, so that was clearly not the question.
Anyway, to answer op's question, i do not pronounce the word. No one I speak with knows what it is or cares about its pronunciation. On the internet, spelling trumps pronunciation.
How do you say it?
Just speaking for myself, I strive to pronounce foreign words and brand names as closely as possible to how "they" would pronounce it -- it irks me to hear otherwise. I can't help it!
04-20-16, 08:55 AM
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Maybe I parsed the question wrong. Normally, when I run across a "how do you ___?", I assume the poster is interested in learning the best or right way to do something. In this case, it seemed like the OP became doubtful of what was correct after talking with another industry vet. Perhaps he was just soliciting how individuals in C&V prefer to pronounce it, as you read the question.
Just speaking for myself, I strive to pronounce foreign words and brand names as closely as possible to how "they" would pronounce it -- it irks me to hear otherwise. I can't help it!
Just speaking for myself, I strive to pronounce foreign words and brand names as closely as possible to how "they" would pronounce it -- it irks me to hear otherwise. I can't help it!
Now that they don't even make Tange tubing anymore, this is all a bit academic. But still, let's just imagine it's 1985 and you go into a bike shop and ask the salesman to compare Tange (pronounced like the Japanese would pronounce it) versus Vitus (pronounced like the French pronounce it) versus Columbus (pronounced like the Italians pronounce it)... you're going to get a funny look at best. Talk like an American, man! It's okay! You're an American!
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Oh, I know, I was must being extreme for comic effect. But seriously, I believe we should bear in mind what language we speak, and how people pronounce something in other languages is not always relevant. A good example is how we pronounce Iraq. Some Americans say Eee-rock, other say Eye-rack. If you did a survey, I suspect the former is considered more sensitive, and people who say Eee-rock probably think Eye-rack is insensitive. You may even be able to predict a person's political affiliation by the way the say it. But if you hear an Iraqi say the name of his/her country, you may not even recognize it. It does not sound much like either Eee-rock or Eye-rack. And if you learn to pronounce it that way (which is not going to be easy; it involves two consonants we don't even have in English), and use that pronunciation in conversation, you will just get funny looks. After repeating yourself a couple times, you are finally going to give in and say "Eye-rack, for gosh's sake!"
Now that they don't even make Tange tubing anymore, this is all a bit academic. But still, let's just imagine it's 1985 and you go into a bike shop and ask the salesman to compare Tange (pronounced like the Japanese would pronounce it) versus Vitus (pronounced like the French pronounce it) versus Columbus (pronounced like the Italians pronounce it)... you're going to get a funny look at best. Talk like an American, man! It's okay! You're an American!
Now that they don't even make Tange tubing anymore, this is all a bit academic. But still, let's just imagine it's 1985 and you go into a bike shop and ask the salesman to compare Tange (pronounced like the Japanese would pronounce it) versus Vitus (pronounced like the French pronounce it) versus Columbus (pronounced like the Italians pronounce it)... you're going to get a funny look at best. Talk like an American, man! It's okay! You're an American!
Upon further reflection, my pronunciation is probably more of a compromise between how "they" say it, and the consonants/vowels generally used in English, striving mostly to avoid the gross mispronunciations. Although I'll admit that sometimes I like to ask the (Italian-speaking, studied abroad in Florence for a semester in college) wife if she wants "Eye-talian" for dinner, just for the fun of it.
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All I know is the more difficult it is to say the more expensive it is to buy.
