colnago frame ???
09-05-16 | 02:11 PM
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Add a picture of just the lugs where they join the head-tube.
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09-05-16 | 03:49 PM
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We need some photos that show things clearer, especially the entire bike from the drive side, the lugs where the down tube and top tube meet the head tube, the bottom bracket shell, and any serial numbers you find. Should be someone knowledgeable about Colnagos along shortly. Nice looking frame set, welcome to the Forums. too
09-05-16 | 04:20 PM
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The down-tube appears to be crimped. This helps confirm the bike as a Colnago. It could be a Colnago Master. I expect that the combination of decals and crimped tubing will narrow down the identification.
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09-05-16 | 05:02 PM
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I can't see details EXCEPT that this has 3 cable guides (not 2) on the top tube, plus that
race tag" tab on the underside of the the TT...so based on nothing else I predict this is a Benelux-made FAUX-nago...but I may be proved wrong if we get some better pix.
Cause OTOH: the headlugs look "correct" as do the stay caps and perhaps the chainstay engraving...so nothing's for certain, yet.
race tag" tab on the underside of the the TT...so based on nothing else I predict this is a Benelux-made FAUX-nago...but I may be proved wrong if we get some better pix.
Cause OTOH: the headlugs look "correct" as do the stay caps and perhaps the chainstay engraving...so nothing's for certain, yet.
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09-05-16 | 05:23 PM
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It would be nice to see more details of the engravings/cutouts, but from what I can see you've got a Nouvo Mexico from 1982/83. Colnago's first use of shaped tubing.
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09-05-16 | 07:22 PM
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09-05-16 | 10:45 PM
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it's POSSIBLE that a previous owner had the third cable guide and number tab brazed on prior to a re-paint, and that style decal-ing was also done on that occasion, to a genuine NUOVO Mexico (spelling, people, spelling)...but we need better pics, christos, better pics....
09-06-16 | 06:02 AM
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Not just the shape of the entire tube, please check around the top tube just as it joins the lug at the head tube. Like Clifford said, it appears to have either some ripples in the steel, or maybe its just just scratches in the paint. If it is ripples in the tubing you have frame damage from a front end collision, possibly.
This would be a deal breaker for most of us, blocking out the rippled tube, or having it professionally replaced is expensive at best.
If it is just scratches in the paint, then its no big issue, paint can be touched up, or a respray (possibly expensive) done.
Bill
This would be a deal breaker for most of us, blocking out the rippled tube, or having it professionally replaced is expensive at best.
If it is just scratches in the paint, then its no big issue, paint can be touched up, or a respray (possibly expensive) done.
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09-06-16 | 10:35 AM
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I can't see details EXCEPT that this has 3 cable guides (not 2) on the top tube, plus that
race tag" tab on the underside of the the TT...so based on nothing else I predict this is a Benelux-made FAUX-nago...but I may be proved wrong if we get some better pix.
Cause OTOH: the headlugs look "correct" as do the stay caps and perhaps the chainstay engraving...so nothing's for certain, yet.
race tag" tab on the underside of the the TT...so based on nothing else I predict this is a Benelux-made FAUX-nago...but I may be proved wrong if we get some better pix.
Cause OTOH: the headlugs look "correct" as do the stay caps and perhaps the chainstay engraving...so nothing's for certain, yet.
09-06-16 | 12:46 PM
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Here's a CA 1983 Nuovo Mexico for detail/decal comparison. Yes, mine has a bit more chrome and only two top tube guides, but it's basically the same frame/fork combo.
Nuovo Super or Mexico from the early 80s is still my guess. In any case, I'm sure it's authentic.
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Nuovo Super or Mexico from the early 80s is still my guess. In any case, I'm sure it's authentic.
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09-06-16 | 02:14 PM
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Only Downtube is fluted. It also has an octagonal fluting, while the Masters seem to have a square fluting.
It must have been early in Colnago's using fluting to strengthen tubing.
09-06-16 | 03:40 PM
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Steel Vintage Bikes - Colnago Nuovo Mexico 1983
look the top tube from nuveo mexico have the ripples.bad mine is rond not ripples??
look the top tube from nuveo mexico have the ripples.bad mine is rond not ripples??
09-06-16 | 04:58 PM
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I picked up an E-Bay frame. It was supposed to be a Master, but I'm thinking Nuovo Mexico.
Only Downtube is fluted. It also has an octagonal fluting, while the Masters seem to have a square fluting.
It must have been early in Colnago's using fluting to strengthen tubing.
Only Downtube is fluted. It also has an octagonal fluting, while the Masters seem to have a square fluting.
It must have been early in Colnago's using fluting to strengthen tubing.
The OP's pics are close to my '83 Nuovo Mexico with exception to the top tube. A top tube replacement doesn't feel likely to me, but that don't mean much. Do you have the bike in your hands, or are you still dealing with a seller? It certainly looks authentic from the few pics if that's the question.
I'll see about a better pic for comparison later on.
09-06-16 | 05:29 PM
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Okay, maybe another piece to the puzzle. It's my (very limited) understanding that there was a good amount of experimentation/variation between the earlier frames with shaped tubes.
The OP's pics are close to my '83 Nuovo Mexico with exception to the top tube. A top tube replacement doesn't feel likely to me, but that don't mean much. Do you have the bike in your hands, or are you still dealing with a seller? It certainly looks authentic from the few pics if that's the question.
I'll see about a better pic for comparison later on.
The OP's pics are close to my '83 Nuovo Mexico with exception to the top tube. A top tube replacement doesn't feel likely to me, but that don't mean much. Do you have the bike in your hands, or are you still dealing with a seller? It certainly looks authentic from the few pics if that's the question.
I'll see about a better pic for comparison later on.