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Old 06-01-17 | 11:02 AM
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The PX10E is ready for the test ride. Sadly, I am not.



The bars will get tape after I have ridden the bike. I never tape bars before I ride the machine. Much easier to adjust where the brake levers sit, before the tape is in place.

The wheels are cleaned a bit but not really well. The hubs are greased and good to go, but the cleaning and polishing will be left until I am ready to mount new tubulars that are already on the way, thanks to the incredible generosity of a fellow forum member.

I usually give my special bikes a nick-name. This one's name will be Kindness. Anyway, my Peugeot...










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Old 06-01-17 | 11:17 AM
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It really looks great Randy, you have one nice example of an iconic bicycle. I hope your recovery is progressing well.

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Old 06-05-17 | 03:54 PM
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Looking really good. What is the pad on the top bar for?
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Looking really good. What is the pad on the top bar for?
I learned, a long time ago, to protect the top tube from fork/handlebar swing, which can cause a dent in thin tubing. Once the bar is taped, the problem goes away and so does the bumper pad.
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Old 06-05-17 | 04:07 PM
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Hey Randy, I think the co-op in Kitchener might have some nos simplex front derailleurs, if I can get in there when I'm back in town I will let you know what we got.
Thanks, Clasher. That is about the last thing I need to get the bike as original as it can be. Well, I would not mind having a proper pump for the bike, but mine lives in Europe now, fitted to a nice Mercier Mixte.
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Old 06-11-17 | 02:41 PM
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Well, it took an old guy a while to get the job done, and done is not exactly correct. A fellow forum member gave me some tubular tires for the bike and as soon as they arrive, apart come the wheels for a clean and polish treatment, hope those Normandy Competition hubs polish up as nice as I think they will.

The bike as of today(sorry, I don't have a white garage door:-)...







Wraping cloth tape and Mafac half hoods - now there's a trick...



The hunt for the correct front derailleur continues, but this will do for now...



French threads means no SPD, but got the straps and traps for free...



The Stronglight bottom bracket is perfect...



Still to be completely disassembled, spokes and all, then polish and build again...

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Old 06-11-17 | 03:02 PM
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I'm trying to figure out how taping your bars prevents top tube dings. It doesn't work for me.
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Old 06-11-17 | 03:31 PM
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I'm trying to figure out how taping your bars prevents top tube dings. It doesn't work for me.
When the bike, any bike, is in the work stand, the fork has a tendency to swing unpredictably. If the alloy handlebar bangs into the top tube without any buffer, ding. Once the tape is on, the chances of a ding, under those circumstances, is greatly reduced, in my opinion.

That said, the cloth tape does not really offer nearly as much protection as does the cork/rubber stuff(I have not built up many bikes with cloth tape), suggesting my error in saying "the problem goes away". So, with that in mind, and when working on the X10, I will add a cushion tube to the top tube, in an effort to prevent any possibility of oops.
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You did a really good job taping the bars (as well as everything else). I did a few hundred cloth tape jobs on bikes like that, back in the day. I know a good job when I see one.
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You did a really good job taping the bars (as well as everything else). I did a few hundred cloth tape jobs on bikes like that, back in the day. I know a good job when I see one.
Thanks noglider. Coming from you means a lot to me. Personally, I hate wrapping cloth tape and am thinking of trying another brand, when my stash(Cateye) runs out(1 black set left, three dark blue sets and two red sets). What that means is I have one set left since I tend to stay away from bright eye catchers, these days.

The PX10, and its variations, has always been a favorite bike to view. Good ride quality adds frosting to the cake. What do I like about the bike the most? I see the bike first and then the details. Peugeot really got the aesthetics right, when they built this PX10E(my opinion, of course)...



I should weigh the bike, both it and the scale are less than ten feet away. Anyone want to guess the weight?
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Lovely build/resto--I haven't been on this site for quite a while, and it was a treat for this to be the first thread I opened. Nice to be able to connect the person with the 'My Ten Speeds' website too.

My brother used to race on a PX10 (probably a 1968/69 production)--but in green, not white. Had all the same parts as yours, including the Stronglight, Normandy Competition, Simplex. It was a great bike that served him well... Purchased new at Russ Hayes Cycles in Victoria, BC.
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The bike as of today(sorry, I don't have a white garage door:-)...
Oh, it's okay, I love seeing PX-10's in the wild.

Nice work, I'm glad to see you went with the cloth tape, the cork always just looks too bulky on a racing bike. Are you planning on shellacking the tape? That frame and paint has cleaned up wonderfully, it's not very often that you get to see one so pristine. Great job on the cleanup.
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Nice work, I'm glad to see you went with the cloth tape, the cork always just looks too bulky on a racing bike. Are you planning on shellacking the tape? That frame and paint has cleaned up wonderfully, it's not very often that you get to see one so pristine. Great job on the cleanup.
Shellac? Probably not as the look never blew my kilt up. Also, I have carpal tunnel in both hands and like a fairly high coefficient of friction to add a positive feel to my grip. And, as for pristine, not really but original, you pretty darn close and my goal is to get the bike 100% original, if I can except for the freewheel. The original issue 21 dent large cog would prove to be too much for these old legs. Hence, I went with a 26 big cog and plan to keep it fitted...

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That FD is correct for an early seventies Gitane Tour de France. It has a chrome clamp and an aluminum plug rather than red plastic. It is misidentified on Velobase. It is not correct for your PX10. You posted the correct one in number 61 above.

Agree, but as a practical fix it's pretty good!
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Agree, but as a practical fix it's pretty good!
His goal is to get the bike 100% original.
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His goal is to get the bike 100% original.
For a guy like [MENTION=84826]randyjawa[/MENTION], 100% is a worthy goal. The PX10 in its' most classic colors is a worthy bike.



I sometimes wish i was more like the perfectionist in many of you. Then the next project arrives and i compromise for some reason - i have a bunch of excuses, many of them excellent, expedient, and mechanically sound. See. I'm still just a hack bike rider.

congrats, randyjawa.
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[MENTION=22396]Wildwood[/MENTION], I respect the quest for period correctness, but I don't have the energy or the finesse to do it, so I just admire it from afar.
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+1,000,000

i have one original, one period correct, the others are Campy mongrels, with VO cranks, clipless pedals, etc. At least my many wheelsets match, mostly!
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[MENTION=22396]Wildwood[/MENTION], I think I have two bikes with mismatched rims, one black, the other silver. Some would consider it a disgrace, but I can't turn down something that works and is economical.
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[MENTION=22396]Wildwood[/MENTION], I think I have two bikes with mismatched rims, one black, the other silver. Some would consider it a disgrace, but I can't turn down something that works and is economical.
I commuted two weeks with mismatched rims.....a slippery slope that I got myself off of.

But this PX-10 is a beauty. I'd call it pristine as any 3 year old, well cared for, steel bike that was seriously ridden in any weather. Is that a 52/45 in the front?
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[MENTION=84826]randyjawa[/MENTION], your tape wrapping looks fine to me, it just takes time to get the spacing even and with carpal tunnel in both of your hands, whew. I cannot imagine wrapping bars and having to deal with the pain that causes you. Grip problems from Parkinson's presents me some issues but I plan for plenty of time and don't hesitate to rest the hands for a bit. You did a darn nice job on this one, and I can respect the goal of as close to 100% correct as possible also. Both of mine are as close as I could get them, and like your freewheel, I had to make a few small allowances.

Are you going to include this one on the "My Ten Speeds" website? I hope that you are/will add it to the other builds and restorations in the site, as iconic as the PX-10 line is, it deserves a place on your site. And the site deserves to have this one included, IMHO.

Thanks for sharing the build with us, and I hope that the correct parts all fall into place for you, my ear is to the ground for them.

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[MENTION=84826]randyjawa[/MENTION] I must say, that is a beautiful Peugeot.

Close ups of the components show how clean it really is.

I have an identical PX10E in the queue, but in much worse shape.

You've convinced me to bring it back to original, more or less.
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[QUOTE=randyjawa;19646568]Well, it took an old guy a while to get the job done, and done is not exactly correct. A fellow forum member gave me some tubular tires for the bike and as soon as they arrive, apart come the wheels for a clean and polish treatment, hope those Normandy Competition hubs polish up as nice as I think they will.

The bike as of today(sorry, I don't have a white garage door:-)...




No White garage door but I do see a "stick" stand....was that a French thing? I knew they were idiosyncratic.
Nice progress Randy, ride it and enjoy it.
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Well, the time has come to express my thanks, to the fellow who sent me the PX10E. With that in mind, I went into the forests of Northwestern Ontario, seeking outcroppings of the Great Canadian Shield. I was, with my son, rock hunting. And we found what we were seeking - amethyst crystals.

Amethyst is pretty easy to find, where I live, if you know where to look for it. Two packages will be heading out in the next few days. These pieces of rock go to the man who sent me the Peugeot...





And this goes to make room for the X10...

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randyjawa, good job on the clean up. Your bike looks great and a little familiar (except for the pro lugs)

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