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Old 05-14-17 | 03:36 AM
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Well, 400 miles+ along the north short of Lake Superior, from Thunder Bay to Duluth, and home came the Peugeot. The bike is very original and shows that it has not been used much. For the most part, it is in great shape except for a couple of rust spots, that I don't think I can completely clean up, on the chain stays. Easy enough to hide, but...

Anyway, will start the clean up today...













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Old 05-14-17 | 06:03 AM
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Wow, that looks to be about as "all original" as you can get. Looks like it'll clean up beautifully. Love the front bottle cage.
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Old 05-14-17 | 07:22 AM
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Such a beautiful bike. I really love mine, such a wonderful ride.
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Old 05-14-17 | 07:26 AM
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WOW! AND it fits? Why not apply a little liquid wrench, triflow, then tuneup and ride? Just for a bit?
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That looks awesome, congrats on the new bike!
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Old 05-14-17 | 08:22 AM
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I was looking to see if you'd received it yesterday. I find my px-10 to have a great feel and I only wish I didn't have the plain bocama lugs but the fancy nervex ones.

Good luck on the rebuild. I'm sure it will turn out great and take photos of the process.
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Old 05-14-17 | 09:41 AM
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This is about where I am, at the moment. I don't charge for my website, nor do I charge for information offered to people who take the time to contact me through email. So...

I am going to send a message to the fellow, expressing my interest to go for it. I, needless to say, will ask to see a picture or two, and suggest he ship to a good friend in Duluth. Boy, I hope this pans out. Why..?

Because I really like vintage road bicycle and even more-so when the "how found" proves to be an interesting story. Have a look at How I Got the Carlton. Probably my best ever how found story.

Sadly, I sold the Carlton, only to find out later that the forks were a bit tweaked. Today, I know how to check frame/fork sets for true so that will not happen again.
If your customer is able to disassemble/reassemble the bicycle and has access to a good shop, the frame realignment is not so expensive.

But I can see how your pride and desire to assure satisfaction is a little shaken.
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Old 05-20-17 | 10:21 AM
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Great example of an original PX-10 with the fancy lugs! For what it's worth you can get a date code from the rim where it's stamped MAVIC MONTLERY then under that says MADE IN FRANCE with something like 0972 etc. Also great website, I've referenced it a lot.

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Old 05-20-17 | 11:16 AM
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For what it's worth you can get a date code from the rim where it's stamped MAVIC MONTLERY then under that says MADE IN FRANCE with something like 0972 etc.
It is worth a lot, to me. I am always happy to learn something new. With that in mind, it would seem that the rims are 1972...



But the alloy serial number plate is long gone, leaving this confusing piece of information...



Anyway, the Peugeot is completely disassembled and ready for cleaning and polishing. Plus, to make it easier for me to rebuild the bike, I sorted all my Simplex, Mafac and Stronglight stuff into three separate boxes.
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I think it's a '73. They moved the Reynolds decal to the down tube in '74.
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Old 05-20-17 | 12:29 PM
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I think it's a '73. They moved the Reynolds decal to the down tube in '74.
I think you are correct and, for what it is worth, the front derailleur is cracked and the rear was made in March 1972...



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Incredible bike Randy, anything other than that FD that is broken or stripped? As said, they don't come more original than that one. Perhaps another chapter for My Ten-Speeds is beginning, more people could learn some of the specifics about the venerable PX-10 lines.

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Old 05-20-17 | 02:11 PM
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I think it's a '73. They moved the Reynolds decal to the down tube in '74.
And I believe the Reynolds decal was a different style in 1974 as well (not accounting for carryover due to excess supply, etc.).
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Old 05-31-17 | 04:26 AM
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Sometimes I wonder if there is some kind of bicycle deity(god) looking after me and my vintage bicycle interests..?

Yesterday morning, very early morning, I almost bit the bullet for a set of Mafac half hoods in black that were being offered on Ebay($30 US + shipping). But money is tight these days, so I went back to sitting on the "should I or shouldn't I" buy them fence. Lucky I waited...

Four hours later, on my first trip into the city since surgery, I picked up a nice old Jeunet for less than the hood set would have cost me(about half). All I wanted was the hoods and they look just great on my almost finished PX10E. With luck, I will have the bike road worthy(sort of because I can't afford new tubulars and the tape to mount them just now) enough to take it for a short no serious curves spin(gotta make sure that Mrs. Me does not get wind of this plan, considering my present health).

Anyway, the Jeunet and the hoods...





Now to decide on cloth tape(only have three sets of cloth left) or cheap cork/rubber tape, for the bars(only have two sets left but can get more for about two and a half bucks per set, shipped - I usually buy a dozen sets at a time).

Perhaps I can get some pictures if it EVER stops raining. This is not Seattle, you know but it does feel awfully wet and the black flies just love it.
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Incredible bike Randy, anything other than that FD that is broken or stripped?
Yup, cracked jockey wheel(pooey stinko), the kind with bearings rather then bushings. Just ordered a NOS set through Ebay and hope I am not getting screwed by the seller(promised to refund $27.00 US of the posted $34.00 cost to ship - we'll see but I do tend to trust first and grumble second).

Update on the seller of the jockey wheels. He sent the refund within minutes of my making payment. His selling name, on Ebay, is weinniroaster. Normally, I would not post someone's identity without permission but this is a different case. His efforts to help me out is noted and appreciated.
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Yup, cracked jockey wheel(pooey stinko), the kind with bearings rather then bushings. Just ordered a NOS set through Ebay and hope I am not getting screwed by the seller(promised to refund $27.00 US of the posted $34.00 cost to ship - we'll see but I do tend to trust first and grumble second).

Update on the seller of the jockey wheels. He sent the refund within minutes of my making payment. His selling name, on Ebay, is weinniroaster. Normally, I would not post someone's identity without permission but this is a different case. His efforts to help me out is noted and appreciated.
I used Suntour pulley wheels in place of the bearinged pulley that came with the simplex.
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Old 05-31-17 | 07:24 AM
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I used Suntour pulley wheels in place of the bearinged pulley that came with the simplex.
And I would do so, also, however; I have a few sets of Simplex pulleys tucked away. That said, I am trying to get this old French lady back to original specifications, right down to the proper freewheel. It just so happens that I have the correct one but not sure my old legs can push it properly. None the less, if it is French thread(and I think it is), I will install it and put the Suntour Perfect on the shelf, for the time being.

So far, the only original item missing is a proper front derailleur and, believe it or not, I did have one that I gave away a few years back when I had to make storage room(gave a box full of Simplex stuff away, at that time). Not sure, but I think that this is the front derailleur I should be looking for(picture is from Velobase)...

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Old 05-31-17 | 08:37 AM
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Nice score on the hoods. They're getting very hard to find in useable shape. I managed to find a black pair from a early 70's UE-8 that went on my PX-50, then sold the UE-8 without hoods, and made $30 on the deal.
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But the alloy serial number plate is long gone, leaving this confusing piece of information...



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This does not surprise me one bit after seeing the frame angles, fork crown and lug combination. I once owned your bike's brother, badly photographed here -

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and its serial number was like this -

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I also owned a '74 PX-10LE, also badly photographed as seen here -

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and its serial number is a similar treatment, though done even more crudely, after painting, and with oriented 180 degrees away from the earlier one -

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Somebody, somewhere, has to know what the deal was those two years. Has anyone got a known 1973 Peugeot PX-10 with the more traditional 72 degree angles to compare to these?
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Not sure, but I think that this is the front derailleur I should be looking for(picture is from Velobase)...


I believe the OEM one would have been a Super Competition AV3 2nd generation:
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I just ordered one for my '71 PX-10 to replace the one you're showing in the pic (a Simplex Prestige), which was a temporary fix.
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Hey Randy, you're a handy guy. At some point on BF, I read that you can make hoods with Plasti Dip®. I don't remember if the writer mentioned how. It would be nice if you can brush it on, but if not, some skillful dripping and drying should do the trick.
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And I would do so, also, however; I have a few sets of Simplex pulleys tucked away. That said, I am trying to get this old French lady back to original specifications, right down to the proper freewheel. It just so happens that I have the correct one but not sure my old legs can push it properly. None the less, if it is French thread(and I think it is), I will install it and put the Suntour Perfect on the shelf, for the time being.

So far, the only original item missing is a proper front derailleur and, believe it or not, I did have one that I gave away a few years back when I had to make storage room(gave a box full of Simplex stuff away, at that time). Not sure, but I think that this is the front derailleur I should be looking for(picture is from Velobase)...

My '72 PX-10 had the original Delrin FD. There are some pictures halfway through the first page of it before I replaced it.

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And I would do so, also, however; I have a few sets of Simplex pulleys tucked away. That said, I am trying to get this old French lady back to original specifications, right down to the proper freewheel. It just so happens that I have the correct one but not sure my old legs can push it properly. None the less, if it is French thread(and I think it is), I will install it and put the Suntour Perfect on the shelf, for the time being.

So far, the only original item missing is a proper front derailleur and, believe it or not, I did have one that I gave away a few years back when I had to make storage room(gave a box full of Simplex stuff away, at that time). Not sure, but I think that this is the front derailleur I should be looking for(picture is from Velobase)...

That FD is correct for an early seventies Gitane Tour de France. It has a chrome clamp and an aluminum plug rather than red plastic. It is misidentified on Velobase. It is not correct for your PX10. You posted the correct one in number 61 above.
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Thanks GB and that is the one that came with the bike. Now I feel, for sure that I know what to seek. There is one on Ebay right now, but for $80.00 USD + shipping, I will have to pass...



Perhaps I should attempt to repair the one that I have. There was a time when I could be pretty creative. I will give it some thought.
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Hey Randy, I think the co-op in Kitchener might have some nos simplex front derailleurs, if I can get in there when I'm back in town I will let you know what we got.
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