The Zero bike
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Bike Butcher of Portland


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Bikes: It's complicated.
I resemble that remark!
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If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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From: Portlandia's Kuiper Belt, OR
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Ah, but parting is such sweet sorrow.
Four, five times a year, when I visit my inlaws' house in Gig Harbor, I get reunited with this beauty:

It's my "zero bike," and she has my full attention when I am there. Very nearly the perfect bike for the local terrain, I can hardly wait to get reacquainted with her each time I'm out there. I like my inlaws well enough, but they basically sit around the house all day every day, and this bike transports me from that.
Four, five times a year, when I visit my inlaws' house in Gig Harbor, I get reunited with this beauty:

It's my "zero bike," and she has my full attention when I am there. Very nearly the perfect bike for the local terrain, I can hardly wait to get reacquainted with her each time I'm out there. I like my inlaws well enough, but they basically sit around the house all day every day, and this bike transports me from that.

Try dragging a bike with you every time you travel. I ride in Thunder Bay Ontario, Winnipeg Manitoba, Calgary Alberta, Willow River BX and Jamaica. I am tired of carrying a bike with me every time I go visit kids or move to the villa in Jamaica where I live in the winter. Hence, a bike stored at each of these locations makes great sense to me. And...
Taking a bike with me on an airplane cost quite a bit, there and back.
Taking a bike with me on an airplane cost quite a bit, there and back.
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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I'm still trying to figure out what you might have been typing that a spellchucker changed to zero.
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Not lost wanderer.


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Bikes: Cambodia bike,2012 Fuji Stratos...
I have nA + nC + 1 = n+... Where A = America and C = Cambodia, so I really don't know how many I have 🤣. If I hid one somewhere else, I might forget where it was.
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Bikes: It's complicated.
Clearly a need for advanced mathematics. There could be a simplification here. If there is a SWMBO in your life, then clearly s-1 is a boundary condition. If SWMBO is located in either C or A, and doesn't travel to the other letter, then either nA or nC = 0 (all bikes in other location are zero bikes), which, of course, simplifies the equation greatly. If SWMBO = 0, then you have a boundary-less condition, and n approaches ∞, and is constrained only by t(ime) and $. If SWMBO travels with, then you need another capital letter to multiply by n. T(hailand)? V(ietnam)? NJ(ersey)?
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If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#33
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Bikes: It's complicated.
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If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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Great term. I have 2 "zero" bikes right now. But, no wife (well, legally I still have a wife, but she doesn't factor in), so it's more a matter or storage and clutter in my house and convincing myself I don't have a bike collecting problem.
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Related phenomena include the "having parts shipped to your work so the SO doesn't see the package" and "paying LBS prices to have them order it so you can pick it up from the shop so the SO doesn't see the package".
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I keep my 3-speed at my mother-in-law's place in Florida. My wife knows.

I keep my 1-speed (fixed gear) in my office in the Bronx. My wife knows, or at least she did and might have forgotten.
I keep my 1-speed (fixed gear) in my office in the Bronx. My wife knows, or at least she did and might have forgotten.
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Bikes: It's complicated.
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If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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not sure I remember what I was trying to say, to "zero",

Bill
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Ooh, I realize I am guilty of tossing new stuff in the piles o' crap.
My mother in law does know about our bikes in FL. I left her with keys to the lock that locked them in the bike room of the apartment building, and we lost our copy, and she lost hers, so I had to cut the lock and start again. Since then, we've been more careful.
My mother in law does know about our bikes in FL. I left her with keys to the lock that locked them in the bike room of the apartment building, and we lost our copy, and she lost hers, so I had to cut the lock and start again. Since then, we've been more careful.
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“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
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#40
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Bikes: It's complicated.
It's an age/memory thing. Tomorrow I might not remember typing this...
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If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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They're onto me.
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You've downsized and have space. Mind' if I store a few bikes at your place?
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Bikes: Still have a few left!
My wife of 57 years hasn't had a bicycle since the 80's and only refers to mine as "the blue one", "the red one" or "the turquoise one", so where n= all the others, I consider 3 + n = 3
Don
Don
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[MENTION=46029]fender1[/MENTION] is right to an extent. I don't hide significant purchases from my wife. That would be a form of lying about an important resource and therefore a breach of trust. Our money is arranged as yours, mine, and ours, but even blatant waste of my own money would be significant even if it isn't a direct problem. My wife sees stuff come and go, and she knows that I pay for some and I get money for some stuff I sell. I think it goes without saying that I'm not breaking even overall, and there's nothing wrong with a hobby that costs money.
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