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Old 08-07-17 | 04:05 PM
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I understand that most of this thread is tongue-in-cheek but there is a facet of it that comes off a bit pathetic.
I resemble that remark!
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Ah, but parting is such sweet sorrow.

Four, five times a year, when I visit my inlaws' house in Gig Harbor, I get reunited with this beauty:



It's my "zero bike," and she has my full attention when I am there. Very nearly the perfect bike for the local terrain, I can hardly wait to get reacquainted with her each time I'm out there. I like my inlaws well enough, but they basically sit around the house all day every day, and this bike transports me from that.
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Try dragging a bike with you every time you travel. I ride in Thunder Bay Ontario, Winnipeg Manitoba, Calgary Alberta, Willow River BX and Jamaica. I am tired of carrying a bike with me every time I go visit kids or move to the villa in Jamaica where I live in the winter. Hence, a bike stored at each of these locations makes great sense to me. And...

Taking a bike with me on an airplane cost quite a bit, there and back.
That makes a lot of sense. I have family in Portland and visit them often enough, but all of them tend to, at this point in time, live in places for only a couple of years. So the permanence and storage space factors are not in a Zero Bike's favor, to say nothing of my desire to not impose if possible. Soon my parents' place should be a great location, but that'll most likely be in January when their house gets done being built.
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Old 08-08-17 | 04:19 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out what you might have been typing that a spellchucker changed to zero.
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Old 08-08-17 | 05:53 AM
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I have nA + nC + 1 = n+... Where A = America and C = Cambodia, so I really don't know how many I have 🤣. If I hid one somewhere else, I might forget where it was.
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Old 08-08-17 | 06:28 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out what you might have been typing that a spellchucker changed to zero.
Me too, and so is Gugie according to the OP. Curioser and curioser......
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Old 08-08-17 | 10:06 AM
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I have nA + nC + 1 = n+... Where A = America and C = Cambodia, so I really don't know how many I have 🤣. If I hid one somewhere else, I might forget where it was.
Clearly a need for advanced mathematics. There could be a simplification here. If there is a SWMBO in your life, then clearly s-1 is a boundary condition. If SWMBO is located in either C or A, and doesn't travel to the other letter, then either nA or nC = 0 (all bikes in other location are zero bikes), which, of course, simplifies the equation greatly. If SWMBO = 0, then you have a boundary-less condition, and n approaches ∞, and is constrained only by t(ime) and $. If SWMBO travels with, then you need another capital letter to multiply by n. T(hailand)? V(ietnam)? NJ(ersey)?
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Me too, and so is Gugie according to the OP. Curioser and curioser......
I truly do not remember. Maybe my subconscious did it.

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Great term. I have 2 "zero" bikes right now. But, no wife (well, legally I still have a wife, but she doesn't factor in), so it's more a matter or storage and clutter in my house and convincing myself I don't have a bike collecting problem.
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Related phenomena include the "having parts shipped to your work so the SO doesn't see the package" and "paying LBS prices to have them order it so you can pick it up from the shop so the SO doesn't see the package".
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I keep my 1-speed (fixed gear) in my office in the Bronx. My wife knows, or at least she did and might have forgotten.

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Great term. I have 2 "zero" bikes right now. But, no wife (well, legally I still have a wife, but she doesn't factor in), so it's more a matter or storage and clutter in my house and convincing myself I don't have a bike collecting problem.
Close enough.

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Related phenomena include the "having parts shipped to your work so the SO doesn't see the package" and "paying LBS prices to have them order it so you can pick it up from the shop so the SO doesn't see the package".
Excellent. See also "driving down to the LBS during lunch..." Parts blend in and can be stored in parts bins. It's the rare SO who wants to look in there...

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I keep my 3-speed at my mother-in-law's place in Florida. My wife knows.
But does your MIL know?

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Originally Posted by gugie
I truly do not remember. Maybe my subconscious did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SLifea3NHQ
From the OP,
not sure I remember what I was trying to say, to "zero",
Your subconscious types rather well

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Ooh, I realize I am guilty of tossing new stuff in the piles o' crap.

My mother in law does know about our bikes in FL. I left her with keys to the lock that locked them in the bike room of the apartment building, and we lost our copy, and she lost hers, so I had to cut the lock and start again. Since then, we've been more careful.
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From the OP, Your subconscious types rather well

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It's an age/memory thing. Tomorrow I might not remember typing this...
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It's an age/memory thing. Tomorrow I might not remember typing this...
Typing what? Who are you? Why are you looking at me that way? What's this thread about?
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Related phenomena include the "having parts shipped to your work so the SO doesn't see the package" and "paying LBS prices to have them order it so you can pick it up from the shop so the SO doesn't see the package".
Dang.
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I understand that most of this thread is tongue-in-cheek but there is a facet of it that comes off a bit pathetic.
No, not at all, It's a highly developed skill of conflict avoidance!
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No, not at all, It's a highly developed skill of conflict avoidance!

I would suggest that folks that use this strategy either grow a pair or hand 'em over.
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I would suggest that folks that use this strategy either grow a pair or hand 'em over.
This reminds me...

You've downsized and have space. Mind' if I store a few bikes at your place?
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You've downsized and have space. Mind' if I store a few bikes at your place?


Sure......though you may end up seeing some "familiar" items in your ebay feed. I got a kid going to college in a 2 years......
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Sure......though you may end up seeing some "familiar" items in your ebay feed. I got a kid going to college in a 2 years......
This is why I took my classes whilst in prison.
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My wife of 57 years hasn't had a bicycle since the 80's and only refers to mine as "the blue one", "the red one" or "the turquoise one", so where n= all the others, I consider 3 + n = 3
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I would suggest that folks that use this strategy either grow a pair or hand 'em over.
I did that...The hand em over part.
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[MENTION=46029]fender1[/MENTION] is right to an extent. I don't hide significant purchases from my wife. That would be a form of lying about an important resource and therefore a breach of trust. Our money is arranged as yours, mine, and ours, but even blatant waste of my own money would be significant even if it isn't a direct problem. My wife sees stuff come and go, and she knows that I pay for some and I get money for some stuff I sell. I think it goes without saying that I'm not breaking even overall, and there's nothing wrong with a hobby that costs money.
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