Lamplight

Thanks for the information! I still can't afford to pay $350 for one, but at least I know more about it.

cuda2k

New photos of 2 of mine:

80 Gazelle Champion Mondial


86 Serotta Nova


rest here: https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/348302-fantastic-photos-my-86-serotta-80-gazelle-56k-warning.html

mandrake

Verrry nice, and just my size. I like the Dutch bike, especially.
They look around 58 or 59. Seems so much that I see for sale on CL or EBay
is either too small or too large for me.

cuda2k

Thanks, 58.5 ctc and 57ctc respectively.

Gary Fountain

Very nice Gazelle, a classic. I know little about Serotta although I have been aware of the brand since the 90's. They must have been around for quite some time and they appear to be highly regarded. Yours looks to be a late 80's model. The late model Campy gruppo looks good - I am seeing this type of setup more often; a steel frame with more modern components. I think this is a fine testament to the qualities of a steel frame.

Cynikal 

Cuda, Do you have a close up of those cages?

cuda2k

Gary - Serotta's been around since the late 70's, and built bikes for the US 7-11 team in the 80's. They have a brief history on their website here: https://www.serotta.com/pages/history.html My Serotta Nova is an 86 model, originally equipped with the Super Record group now on the Gazelle. One of my goals this winter is to revamp my personal website with much better information and photos about all of my bikes.

Cynikal - shot you a PM.

cankiwi6

Anyone out there familiar with the Holdsworth Mistral ? circa 1975 ?

IchbinJay

I know that a lot of the bikes on here can be considered "classic", but are there any older bikes out there?

Charles Wahl

If you start with an eBay search like

https://listings.ebay.com/_W0QQsocmdZ...8&alist=a30272

they'll only show you bikes + frames/forks for 58 and 59 cm bikes (or those listed as "large"). You can use the stuff on the left-hand side of the window to narrow down the search to particular makes, or type search criteria in the text box at the upper left, like "vintage raleigh (international, professional, competition)" without the quotation marks to look for something specific.

[If the link above gets munged by the bikeforums posting, just take out any carriage returns or spaces]

alfanator

Cuda
Nice setup for the pics of the cool bikes.

Fixedwheelnut

Check out Nicks website here
Holdsworth Imformation site
He doesn't answer questions anymore but there is usually enough info on there to date or recognise a model from there.

strawboss

Hi all,
I've been a lurker for a while on the forums. Here's my 1973 Schwinn World Voyageur:

The bike originally belonged to my grandfather, and I believe it spent more time hanging on the wall in the garage than on the road. He passed away in May, so I inherited this bike. I had to replace the dry-rotted tires, and put on a pair of SPDs as well. I've only been out on it twice ---once for 10 miles, and a second time for 36 miles. The bike rides really well, and is in fantastic condition. It is a touch on the big side, but I am still able to stand over the top tube flat-footed without discomfort. After 36 miles the other day, I am contemplating getting a new handlebar and brake combination. While the original handlebars are quite cool and retro, I find them to be a bit too narrow for my shoulders. In the 36 miles I had a good deal of wrist pain, so I am thinking a Nitto Noodle bar, modern brake levers, and new tape (with actual padding) might do the trick. Any suggestions here might be very useful.

I've been looking for an inexpensive road bike for quite some time now, mostly at the entry-level Treks and Giants. I think this bike may suit my fancy for a while, particularly given the fact that I'm not going to be racing. Rather, I just like long, challenging rides that clear the mind and open up the lungs, and I'd like to get into doing a century or two. Plus, it's really cool to own a bike that is two years older than I am.

BobHufford

You can't go wrong with a Noodle Bar. Harris Cyclery has some good options for levers as well:

https://sheldonbrown.com/harris/brake-levers-drop.html

That is a fantastic example of the World Voyageur! Thanks for sharing. Here are the specs and owners manual for it if you haven't stumbled across them already:

https://www.geocities.com/sldbdealer/1973/73dlsbv1.html
https://www.geocities.com/sldbowners/...3wowners1.html

Bob

East Hill

Hi strawboss, welcome to the forum!

It's a shame that you feel the bike is a bit large for you. Even so, that is a beautiful bike--love love love the colour. Treks and Giants are nice, but that bike is still higher in quality, and will do very nicely for those long challenging ride that clear the mind and open up the lungs.

East Hill

strawboss

I suppose the feeling that the bike is too big for me comes from everything I have read about fitting a road bike. Honestly, the bike feels quite good while I am on the bike, but the standover is kind of snug. I can stand flat footed and lift the bike 1-2 inches off the ground. Perhaps I'm just more used to the clearance of my mountain bike. Regardless, it's a great bike, and I hope to ride it for many years to come. I'm eventually going to get it in to my LBS for a good tuneup. After that, I'll feel a lot more comfortable getting way out on country roads.

My only concern for the bike is that lack of a triple chain ring. We've got some sizable hills in my area, so it's nice to have the lower gear. Perhaps I'm just a little spoiled with my mountain bike gearing, and maybe my legs will grow into the larger road gearing.

As far as the color goes, I'm a Tennessee Vol fan, and you can't get much more orange than the Kool Orange of the World Voyageur. Once I get it a little more cleaned up, I'll post a few more pics of it.

jet sanchEz

This is my new-to-me Marinoni, likely a 1984 as the serial number is 7437 but the guys at Marinoni say I am missing a number, they usually have 5 digits, so they cannot tell me anything about this bike.

I can tell that it is a very nice bike; it is a Marinoni Special and it came with a full Dura Ace 7400 group, minus the wheels, they are a mis-mated campy rear and a Shimano 105 front, both very nice wheels for now. The stem is a nice Cinelli with a "Cinelli" stamp on the top, something I've never seen before. The bars are also Cinelli and are the Campione Del Mondo bars in a rather wide 66-44 but they are comfy and I like the drop on them. The Dura Ace seatpost that came with the bike had a pretty low maximum insertion point so I popped in a longer Dura Ace seatpost; the original one has this little screw in the front of it for setting the angle of the seat, it is pretty neat and I've never seen that before either.

I put on some new bar tape, hoods and a chain and it is great to ride. The paint is in less-than-perfect shape so I will likely get it repainted by Marinoni, they think it wouldn't be more than 160$CAN, including new decals, so I will probably do this in the spring. The rear triangle is fully chromed and I think it would be nice in a red paint scheme, I don't have a red bike







Here is a shot of what it looked like when I got it:

Gary Fountain

Hi Jet sanchEz,

I've seen a few Marinoni's now but I know little about them. Are they an American made frame? Yours looks to be a well built road frame. I agree with the red and chrome look, always looks good, although there is always a place in my heart for the Italian colours on a frame.

Personally, and I'm not trying to be negative, I dislike the second colour painted over a base colour without being masked off. To me it looks cheap. I have a number of 80's bikes with that paint treatment and it always irritates me. I would much prefer a change of colour to be separated by a definite line eg. Eddy Merckx frames.

Hope you post the photo's of the new paint scheme when you can get around to getting it done.

Cynikal 

Marinoni is a builder based in Canada but trained in Italy. I have an 89 or 90 Special built with SLX with a modern component build. It's my primary road bike and a very nice ride.

CarbonKilla

Guerciotti; Campagnolo super record

jet sanchEz

That sounds nice, have you got some pics of it? The details on this frame are very nice, I should have taken some better close-ups, Mr. Marinoni is a fantastic builder.

getinlost

Here are pictures of my oldsters the two Raleighs and Schwinn Suburban are currently in restoration stages.

midschool22

I finally got mine done. It needed a cleaning and a few new parts. Everything is oem with the exception of the tape, tires and pedals/clips.



1988 Bridgestone RB-2.

USAZorro

Looks good!

bikemore 

I have a 73 World Voyager in the same Orange. I got it off of ebay based on a tip from
some here. I don't know what to say about the wrist pain, but if you can lift the 1 or
2 inches I think you are in fine shape on the height part. I have short legs and I usually
prefer a bike that I have to lean to one side a bit. Sometimes adjusting the seat forward
or back can make a difference.

If you have the original freewheel, it should have a 30 on the back which is larger then
was standard on mid range road bikes from that time period.