mackgoo

Anyone know when they started using this model name? I have an older bike with decals with this name but the bike seems older than when I've read they started using this name.

Chombi1 

Maybe, the decal was added on the bike, later, by past owner.....

jj1091

It's a cycle shop sticker. If you use Google maps and input "12 Rue Carnot Versailles" (which is on your decal), you'll find photos of a current Peugeot Cycles dealership, main building at 14 Rue Carnot, and a building across the side street at 12 Rue Carnot, called Revert Pro, with lots of motor scooters in front of it. Apparently, a prior cycle dealer named Trottam/Prottam? was there when your bike was sold.
​​​​​​https://www.google.com/maps/@48.8065...7i13312!8i6656

trailangel

How about more pics?

mackgoo

Excellent piece of detective work, I'm a little embarassed. That explains the top. What about the middle with the two chickens, I'm wondering.

mackgoo

jj1091

That's easy. The 3 fleu-de-lys coat of arms and the rooster (not chicken) are symbols of French nobility. It's just a herald used by the bike shop. From this site: https://bonjourparis.com/uncategoris...vercingetorix/

Starting out in Lyon, he (Julius Caesar) worked his way up across the Berry, Burgundy and Champagne regions until he reached what is today Belgium. The two typically French emblems, “fleur de lys” and the rooster, are both thought to be handed down from Gaelic times.
​​​​​​Fleur de Lys coat of arms, emblem used in the past by French nobility
La “fleur de lys”, later to become a symbol of French nobility, was probably the tip of a spear used commonly by the Celts. As for the French rooster, the word “Gallus” meaning both “Gaelic” and “rooster “, when Caesar arrived, the animal was already a favourite symbol among the Celtic tribes in the north. It is still a national emblem in both France and Belgium today.

You're welcome.

jj1091

The guy that waxed your bike before it left the shop in 1959, was named Henri. He had 2 pet hamsters, Luigi and Rene, who were always chewing wires off the bottle generators, and alas Henri got fired in 1960, then moved to the United States, eventually finding his way west in 1962 searching for the beaches he'd heard about in California when he'd heard the Beach Boys singing Surfin' Safari. Henri now lives in San Clemente, probably somewhere near you. The hamsters died many years ago, and Henri is too busy staying stoned to care.

mackgoo

??

mackgoo

That conclusion makes so much sense. It's just that lower decal looks so much part of the original design with the gold pin stripes and all.

MauriceMoss

I thought the model number suggested by @jj1091 (PLC-50, in the other thread) is an excellent candidate. The only difference is that the bands on the seat tube are double in the 1959 catalog but are solid on yours. Perhaps there had been variation during the year or perhaps yours might be a 1960 (there's a coverage gap when it comes to Peugeot catalogs for 1960).

The person who acquired this one also believes it's a PLC-50:




As for the non-Peugeot decals on your frame, the Versailles one is the coat of arms for the city of Versailles:




As it overlaps the top red band and pinstriping, and is somewhat too close to the Peugeot decal, I'd say that was most likely not applied at the factory.


The bike shop sticker is that of Cycles P. Rolland, which started out in 1946 and on April 1, 2003 changed name to Cycles Jacqot that's still at 12-14 Rue Carnot. It looks like they only deal in scooters now.




I suppose they were a Peugeot dealer, although there were other frames apparently sold under the shop name.

jj1091

Good find on that info. The Google photo shows bikes in the store window, and their website shows they still sell bikes.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/12...644!4d2.125891

cannonride15

Amazing @jj1091, you gleaned all that just from the picture? You are indeed the 'bike whisperer'!

jj1091

Just havin' fun with what you can google when ya wanna. One time someone on a Facebook post got annoying with me, I ended up finding out their full name, address, date of birth, date and place of marriage, political party affiliation, home phone #, cell phone#, wife's name, high school photos, where they went camping, and replied in the post, "By the way, that's a nice White Honda your wife drives that's parked next to your Black F150. Also, do you still use that old Airstream that's in your backyard?" It's sort of scary what you can find through online searches.

But, to answer your reply, sure, it happened.....