Is this really a Cinelli frame?
10-29-18 | 04:32 PM
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Is this really a Cinelli frame?
The bottom bracket lug is but that doesn’t make it a Cinelli frame.
If it is nice bike. Front derailleur is not C Record though.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/b...735731309.html
“Vintage Cinelli with Campagnolo parts
23'' (58 cm) frame
Dripping with Campy. Rims are Araya Red Label
Bike rides great
$700”
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10-29-18 | 09:36 PM
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So what is it? I love the chrome lugs.
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10-29-18 | 09:43 PM
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And what is this bolt doing here?
10-29-18 | 09:44 PM
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Could be a number of builders but that shifter mount dates it around 84-86.
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10-29-18 | 09:51 PM
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Looks like repainted as well.
10-30-18 | 07:19 AM
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10-30-18 | 12:55 PM
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Yes, not a true Cinelli but an intriguing frame with some odd features: in addition to the "shot-in" fast-back seat stays the brake bridge might be "upside down" from the way this one is "normally placed", if I'm reading it right. Do the DOs have portacatena holes? The shifter mount hints at internal cable routing THRU the tubes and maybe stays, would be nice to see more pics of that if so. Probably a high-end frame and no idea what the extra bolt near the rear brake is all about...
10-30-18 | 04:46 PM
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I've dealt with that seller before. Not the most pleasant person in the world.
10-31-18 | 07:45 AM
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I see a LOT of CL postings from this seller for various vintage road bikes. The ads are all similar with adjectives like “minty”. Prices are usually more than I want to pay, and I do my own work, so I’m not interested in paying for the rehab work of others. But what’s his deal?
10-31-18 | 09:24 AM
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I've never done a deep dive into the "proper" orientation of that brake bridge, and, yes, if we're reading it right---not a lot of it showing. Anyhow, I found enough examples of both orientations that I had a hard time calling either one "correct." Can't recall details, or even who made it. Maybe if there are catalogs from the mfr showing only one orientation?
Here's a shot of the bridge on an '80s Rob Stowe:
Here's a shot of the bridge on an '80s Rob Stowe:
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10-31-18 | 09:29 AM
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If the seller really thinks it’s a genuine Cinelli bike the price should be at least double. Makes it all more fishy.
10-31-18 | 07:17 PM
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I've never done a deep dive into the "proper" orientation of that brake bridge, and, yes, if we're reading it right---not a lot of it showing. Anyhow, I found enough examples of both orientations that I had a hard time calling either one "correct." Can't recall details, or even who made it. Maybe if there are catalogs from the mfr showing only one orientation?
Here's a shot of the bridge on an '80s Rob Stowe:
Here's a shot of the bridge on an '80s Rob Stowe:
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