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Old 03-14-19, 02:34 PM
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Also seen on the big auction site. First I've heard of Edco offering an index - dual control and with hydraulic calipers.






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Also seen on the big auction site. First I've heard of Edco offering an index - dual control and with hydraulic calipers.
That's interesting. Never saw those before. They look like a high end version of the Shimano hydraulic caliper brakes from the 70s. Those were rather obscure and less common than the disk brakes.

Interestingly, there's some of those listed on ebay right now as well.

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Also seen on the big auction site. First I've heard of Edco offering an index - dual control and with hydraulic calipers.



That's a unique approach to integrated levers! Marginally similar to SunTour Command, in the sense that a lever rotates on a horizontal lateral axis. Unlike the Commands, this only gives you one lever (or wing) to handle. As a result, you have to pull the lever back towards you. With the SunTour, there was a wing on each side of the pivot so you could always push to make the shift.

It is somewhat similar to the Kelly Take-off, and probably with a more convenient lever location.
It would be fun to hear a review of these!

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That Edco braieset was actually made by Magura. Just rebranded, like a lot of Edco components were back then....
I was thinking about getting them a few years back but decided that they just look a bit too unattractive (to put it kindly) to put on my bikes...
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Old 03-14-19, 06:17 PM
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There is a leather seat similar to that one on the local Craigslist called "PHAT"

Let me know if you wish to trade it for a bicycle.



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Old 03-14-19, 06:36 PM
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^ That is one serious saddle! Difficult to make out the tag but is this Lepper / made in Holland?

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While on the term 'bottom', try this helix titanium bb from Bruce Boone.


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There is a leather seat similar to that one on the local Craigslist called "PHAT"

Let me know if you wish to trade it for a bicycle.


Looks like the same saddle, except it's for someone who has a leather fetish.

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Originally Posted by crank_addict View Post
^ That is one serious saddle! Difficult to make out the tag but is this Lepper / made in Holland?

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While on the term 'bottom', try this helix titanium bb from Bruce Boone.


Looks like it was inspired by a shark's egg case.....
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Originally Posted by crank_addict View Post
^ That is one serious saddle! Difficult to make out the tag but is this Lepper / made in Holland?

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While on the term 'bottom', try this helix titanium bb from Bruce Boone.


wait... who buys exotic stuff and then hides it in the bottom bracket shell? How are you going to impress your friends like that??

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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy View Post
wait... who buys exotic stuff and then hides it in the bottom bracket shell? How are you going to impress your friends like that??

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Lots of bikes have "vented" BB shells with holes ion the shape of the first letter of the brand'like "M" cut outside on Masis. Or just slots or many small round holes in a pattern.
Thing is, better tell your friends not to stick their fingers in the holes when turning the crank, if you have a BB spindle like this one, unless they want hamburger fingers ...
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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy View Post
wait... who buys exotic stuff and then hides it in the bottom bracket shell? How are you going to impress your friends like that??

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Perhaps the bike has a purpose in the kitchen. Remove the seat post and mash the ingredients into the down tube. A RONCO gizmo Rube Goldberg jobbie


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Perhaps the bike has a purpose in the kitchen. Remove the seat post and mash the ingredients into the down tube. A RONCO gizmo Rube Goldberg jobbie
hmm... since both you and @Chombi1 gave the same answer, I'm going to assume that someone has actually tried it.

In a more practical sense, I do think it's an oversight in marketing to not have a visual cue to the wonders that lie inside the shell. A BB cutout would be a necessity to get the full value of this unique axle. Of course, you've got to leave the sleeve out, so you'll be cleaning it frequently.
With a Phil BB, you can see the splined retaining ring.... although no one knows if you've got the steel or titanium axle.
Wiith the Campy SR titanium axle, there was a version with a threaded stud on the end, which means that it is visible externally (because you won't install the heavy dustcaps after paying for the full SR group). Maplewood bike shop in the St Louis area has a Raleigh Team on display with just this arrangement.....



I think this was the first time I've seen this type of axle in person.

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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy View Post
Wiith the Campy SR titanium axle, there was a version with a threaded stud on the end, which means that it is visible externally (because you won't install the heavy dustcaps after paying for the full SR group). Maplewood bike shop in the St Louis area has a Raleigh Team on display with just this arrangement.....

I think this was the first time I've seen this type of axle in person.

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I frequent that neighborhood, looks like I need to go one block further
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Simplex middle 1950s-
No conventional brake levers but rather one pulls back on the handlebar to stop. Various versions made.


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OK, I give up. That's a stumper. What is the purpose of this 3 part water bottle? I'm thinking it isn't supposed to be used for water....
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OK, I give up. That's a stumper. What is the purpose of this 3 part water bottle? I'm thinking it isn't supposed to be used for water....
I think you answered your question. Lol

Same company made conventional and aero bottles along with cages for cycling. The trio set is 'esoteric'.
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Simplex middle 1950s-
No conventional brake levers but rather one pulls back on the handlebar to stop. Various versions made.


That's pretty wild! Any idea as to whether it worked?
It kind of reminds me of some old bone shakers where the handlebar was twisted (rolled on it's axis) to wind up a cord that pulled the brake block against the rim.

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That's pretty wild! Any idea as to whether it worked?
It kind of reminds me of some old bone shakers where the handlebar was twisted (rolled on it's axis) to wind up a cord that pulled the brake block against the rim.

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That's just wrong! A quick stop has you pulling the bars as inertia pushes you into them.
I suspect amazing stomach muscles were in order.
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OK, I give up. That's a stumper. What is the purpose of this 3 part water bottle? I'm thinking it isn't supposed to be used for water....
ketchup, mustard, mayo. Many cookout invites!
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OK, I give up. That's a stumper. What is the purpose of this 3 part water bottle? I'm thinking it isn't supposed to be used for water....
My guess is it was for different dilutions of amphetamines
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Circa 1950 Hercules Herailleur. The first indexed derailleur according to Frank Berto.
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