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Old 11-16-20, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CargoDane View Post
At 20mph (pretty fast average speed) and no breaks, that will take you five hours. Claiming it isn't a long ride to you is just ridiculous. It's a weird way of bragging.

Edit: I see on your profile that one of your interests is "long distance cycling". So, basically "going light and go far". If 100 miles is not "long distance", what constitutes "long distance"? 406 miles in 24h?

https://omniumcargo.dk/2013/06/02/655km-in-24-hours/

No, that's not me. I consider things like that to be stunts and not really what one could do unless going superlight and have someone pick you up in a van.It's an average of 17 mph.
Does your post have anything to do with saddle tilt?
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Old 11-16-20, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrey View Post
Does your post have anything to do with saddle tilt?
Did your previous ones where you bragged that 100 miles was not a long trip?
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Old 11-16-20, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Trakhak View Post
That saddle is likely flexible enough that you're sitting in a shallow trough that is effectively level where your weight is centered. That's why riders can often get away with using a saddle that's tilted down a couple of degrees.

The less flexible the saddle, the closer to level the saddle will be, assuming that the rider does enough mileage for the bike fit to matter. I can't recall seeing any pictures of pro riders with their saddles set more than a degree or two away from dead level, if at all.
In the world of cycling, if we are talking about the whole of bicyclists as a group, pro riders are outliers. Most riders don't have the same physical attributes as the pros do.

I'm not disagreeing that saddle tilt to an extreme as we've seen in a few photos here is very likely due to inexperience/poor fit. But I don't consider the fit characteristics of professional riders to be a benchmark that should be followed by most riders. Plenty of folks out there may actually need some tilt one way or the other to ride extended mileage due to circumstances that can't be determined from pictures online. To say that saddle flexibility and levelness necessarily go together in the manner you described doesn't account for those whose bodies require a different approach.
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Old 11-16-20, 01:04 PM
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Appears some people come to this forum just for the sake of argument and prove their point . Some useful information would be nice instead.
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Old 11-16-20, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrey View Post
Appears some people come to this forum just for the sake of argument and prove their point . Some useful information would be nice instead.
Says the guy who was mostly interested in making the point that 100 miles was not a long trip for him.

As for tilted saddles: Set it how you like it according to your position on the bike. You're a "long distance cyclist", I don't think you need advice on how to position your saddles.
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Old 11-16-20, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CargoDane View Post
Says the guy who was mostly interested in making the point that 100 miles was not a long trip for him.

As for tilted saddles: Set it how you like it according to your position on the bike. You're a "long distance cyclist", I don't think you need advice on how to position your saddles.
You can do better than this!
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Old 11-16-20, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrey View Post
You can do better than this!
Nothing like not responding to earlier questions, while feigning interest and wanting advice.
But, whatever; your thinly-veiled passive-aggressiveness makes you not worth my time.
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Old 11-16-20, 01:33 PM
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@ Andrey - Thanks for sharing those videos! I ended up watching several from cleat to crank length to saddle height, and the two on other about the saddle position. Niell Stanbury makes a lot of sense with is explanations on all the subjects. His comment about the UCI limiting forward tilt to 2.5 degrees was interesting with the change now to 9.5 and the Pro's rejoicing.
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Old 11-16-20, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SJX426 View Post
@ Andrey - Thanks for sharing those videos! I ended up watching several from cleat to crank length to saddle height, and the two on other about the saddle position. Niell Stanbury makes a lot of sense with is explanations on all the subjects. His comment about the UCI limiting forward tilt to 2.5 degrees was interesting with the change now to 9.5 and the Pro's rejoicing.
If the pros want more forward tilt, maybe that hot guy was on to something?
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Originally Posted by robertorolfo View Post
If the pros want more forward tilt, maybe that hot guy was on to something?
Haha, yeah. But he wanted 45 degrees tilt to "balance" your weight, so you had a third of your weight on your handlebars.
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Old 11-17-20, 01:02 AM
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There are some saddle out there where some nose down is good for me it's Prologo but it's a couple of degrees, Flite's I like nice and flat, and Brooks a bit nose up. I think if the company builds a little extra in the nose assuming your going to move forward on the saddle then it needs a bit of tilt. I'm a bit different since I'm built more like an ape than a human with my short legs and long torso and arms.

I still think odd saddle angles are a result of the "buy a smaller bike since you can make it bigger" trend that seems to be pervasive on the internet.
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Old 11-17-20, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CargoDane View Post
Haha, yeah. But he wanted 45 degrees tilt to "balance" your weight, so you had a third of your weight on your handlebars.

Of course this is how I set up MY bike! Every bike and rider is different so the idea is to get your weight in the MIDDLE of the bike!

One thing I have noticed is that bikes have longer top tubes on average then they used to so the seat tends to have a steeper slant and more forward!

When you get the right balance the bike is far easier to handle and your ass gets less pressure and your hands slightly more so all you do is LEAN a little and AWAY YOU GO!

To understand this we have to TRY IT!
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Old 11-17-20, 08:47 PM
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@hotman637 how many long are you going to keep this up before you get bored?
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
@hotman637 how many long are you going to keep this up before you get bored?
Yeah, who started this dumb thread, anyway?
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
Yeah, who started this dumb thread, anyway?
If you get an avatar out of the deal, it will be worth it.
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
Yeah, who started this dumb thread, anyway?
I know, right?!
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