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AJI125 03-22-21 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 21979229)
I've officially put my chips on Prismatic Powders' Sea Foam Green. Both powder and frame are en route to Groody Bros. This was my final confirmation:
I think I'll be happy. Hopefully I won't regret not having had the decaled swatch sent out for clear coating. :innocent:

That really looks spot on (screen at least) the late 80s look I'm going for (if I got celeste). You having him apply decals and 2-part urethane clear over?

Andy_K 03-22-21 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by AJI125 (Post 21979238)
You having him apply decals and 2-part urethane clear over?

Yes

merziac 03-27-21 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 21979483)
Yes

And what bar tape prey tell, cable housing, etc?

xiaoman1 03-27-21 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 21987913)
And what bar tape prey tell, cable housing, etc?

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...-question.html :rolleyes:

Andy_K 03-27-21 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 21987913)
And what bar tape prey tell, cable housing, etc?

Time will tell. At this point I think I'm going to follow the example set by [MENTION=168558]Drillium Dude[/MENTION] and use basic blue bar tape to avoid "over celesting" the bike. This will also avoid [MENTION=367427]xiaoman1[/MENTION] 's problem with finding the right shape of celeste bar tape to match the frame. I'm also leaning toward blue cable housing and bottle cages. The idea is that this blue will match the blue in the decals. I already have bar tape that will do a fair job of that. I'm going to take my decaled swatch to Universal tomorrow to see how the Jagwire SID Blue housing looks with it. If it ends up feeling like too much blue, I'll back off to silver bottle cages and light gray cables.

merziac 03-27-21 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 21988147)
Time will tell. At this point I think I'm going to follow the example set by [MENTION=168558]Drillium Dude[/MENTION] and use basic blue bar tape to avoid "over celesting" the bike. This will also avoid [MENTION=367427]xiaoman1[/MENTION] 's problem with finding the right shape of celeste bar tape to match the frame. I'm also leaning toward blue cable housing and bottle cages. The idea is that this blue will match the blue in the decals. I already have bar tape that will do a fair job of that. I'm going to take my decaled swatch to Universal tomorrow to see how the Jagwire SID Blue housing looks with it. If it ends up feeling like too much blue, I'll back of to silver bottle cages and light gray cables.

Well I don't think it helps but Bianchi has about 3 different versions that "might" work, probably not and its spendy so....

We need to keep in mind that many of the Bianchi's of the day, especially the top ones like mine and DD's came with high zoot black leather Almarc bar tape.

Seems to me like Celeste bar tape is a cruel joke after thought.

The blue is a good idea. Benotto would be the obvious choice.

xiaoman1 03-28-21 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by xiaoman1 (Post 21988021)


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 21988147)
Time will tell. At this point I think I'm going to follow the example set by [MENTION=168558]Drillium Dude[/MENTION] and use basic blue bar tape to avoid "over celesting" the bike. This will also avoid [MENTION=367427]xiaoman1[/MENTION] 's problem with finding the right shape of celeste bar tape to match the frame. I'm also leaning toward blue cable housing and bottle cages. The idea is that this blue will match the blue in the decals. I already have bar tape that will do a fair job of that. I'm going to take my decaled swatch to Universal tomorrow to see how the Jagwire SID Blue housing looks with it. If it ends up feeling like too much blue, I'll back off to silver bottle cages and light gray cables.

merziac


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3489c1b593.png
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cb75d2db41.png
Jmpierce
AJI125
With blue cable housing :thumb:
Best, Ben

Chombi1 03-28-21 02:41 PM

It's a color that definitely grows on people.
Used to hate the color in the 80's and can't figure out why my brother loved it so much and never quit dreaming about owning a Celeste Bianchi.
These days, I won't mind at all owning a Celeste Bianchi...... if only the paint held up better through the years..
Even my uber Bianchi Celeste fan brother who finally bought his first couple of C&V Celeste Bianchis, in the past few years, is frustrated that most of them seem to have really bad paint crazing problems.:(

xiaoman1 03-28-21 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Chombi1 (Post 21989036)
It's a color that definitely grows on people.
Used to hate the color in the 80's and can't figure out why my brother loved it so much and never quit dreaming about owning a Celeste Bianchi.
These days, I won't mind at all owning a Celeste Bianchi...... if only the paint held up better through the years..
Even my uber Bianchi Celeste fan brother who finally bought his first couple of C&V Celeste Bianchis, in the past few years, is frustrated that most of them seem to have really bad paint crazing problems.:(

Chombi1,
You are right about the color and the crazing...I am fortunate in that none of mine have any paint issues other than rock chips...fingers crossed.
Looking forward to Andy's build.
Best, Ben

merziac 03-28-21 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by xiaoman1 (Post 21988911)

Looks like Planet bike or Serfas is a pretty good match. ;)

RiddleOfSteel 03-28-21 06:36 PM

This reminds me that I should totally paint my Medici in Celeste. :lol:

AJI125 03-29-21 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by xiaoman1 (Post 21988911)

Just gonna say I love that look of blue cable housing against celeste.

xiaoman1 03-29-21 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by AJI125 (Post 21989965)
Just gonna say I love that look of blue cable housing against celeste.

AJI125, Yes the old Color Theory and wheel works every time.....Triads are good as well as complimentary colors.

https://www.interaction-design.org/l...s/color-theory
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fd5d631ebb.png
Rudimentary wheel, but good.

Jmpierce 03-29-21 03:25 PM

xiaoman1 , what tape did you end up with?

merziac 03-29-21 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jmpierce (Post 21990755)
xiaoman1 , what tape did you end up with?

:popcorn

xiaoman1 03-29-21 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 21990823)
:popcorn

Cinelli, BLUE! :lol:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d029a7ab20.png
J.K.
It was Serfas, merziac the super sleuth you are had pegged with-out the label.....you should have told me about it the first time.
Ben
Jmpierce

merziac 03-29-21 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by xiaoman1 (Post 21990928)
Cinelli, BLUE! :lol:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d029a7ab20.png
J.K.
It was Serfas, merziac the super sleuth you are had pegged with-out the label.....you should have told me about it the first time.
Ben
Jmpierce

I didn't know to begin with, I looked for mine with no luck and it may be an even further off brand but then I just started digging and the Serfas and Panet Bike came up, they look like they may be the same but who knows.

Glad you got there and I wish Cinelli didn't have the embossing, I like their tape and would run the black on nicer bikes. ;)

AJI125 03-29-21 08:51 PM

Because everyone wants this thread to continue... got some RAL samples so thought I’d add a couple more pictures. Columbia coatings RAL-6027 is indistinguishable to me on the swatches from either Prismatic or Columbia Sea Foam Green. The difference in the Prismatic sample (#2) is the gloss level and smooth versus the others being slightly orange peel (substrate, powder, or method of coating difference? I don’t know). Sorry for all the glare, my garage is just not as picture friendly as I’d hoped! Whenever I’m ready to choose and move on I’ve got a stack of samples if anyone needs!
  1. Prismatic Sea Foam Pearl
  2. Prismatic Sea Foam Green
  3. Columbia Sea Foam Green
  4. Columbia RAL-6027
  5. Columbia RAL-6034
  6. Columbia Surf Green
  7. Columbia RAL-6033


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7b290cc9d.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f7944d8ab.jpeg

Andy_K 03-30-21 02:10 AM

Thanks, [MENTION=497574]AJI125[/MENTION]. I feel better (I think) about having chosen the Sea Foam Green over RAL-6027 knowing that they’re nearly the same. :thumb:

Triplecrank92 03-30-21 06:12 AM

Late Reply
 
I went through the same head scratcher reworking my Bianchi. Here's what I ended up with...

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...rebuild-2.html

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4623335ffc.jpg

Andy_K 03-30-21 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by Triplecrank92 (Post 21991381)
I went through the same head scratcher reworking my Bianchi. Here's what I ended up with...

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...rebuild-2.html

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4623335ffc.jpg

That turned out great. Your color looks brighter than any of the ones I found in powder coat. I don't know if that's just lighting or if it is brighter. That's what I was looking for when I started but I found the sea foam growing on me. :)

Triplecrank92 03-31-21 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 21992766)
That turned out great. Your color looks brighter than any of the ones I found in powder coat. I don't know if that's just lighting or if it is brighter. That's what I was looking for when I started but I found the sea foam growing on me. :)

The lighting makes a big difference. If you look back through my thread, the color on the frame changes significantly depending upon the light. I have maybe half a dozen different shades of spray paint in my garage that I'll never touch again but ended up with paint code: Pantone 332c code. However, I would spray different brands of paint on scrap pipe, let it dry and then take them outside in the sunlight to see how it looked.

bwilli88 03-31-21 05:08 AM

I just do not get the Celeste love.
Give me a Root beer Raleigh.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...598aad0f9d.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...08db4f647f.jpg

AJI125 03-31-21 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by Triplecrank92 (Post 21993139)
The lighting makes a big difference. If you look back through my thread, the color on the frame changes significantly depending upon the light. I have maybe half a dozen different shades of spray paint in my garage that I'll never touch again but ended up with paint code: Pantone 332c code. However, I would spray different brands of paint on scrap pipe, let it dry and then take them outside in the sunlight to see how it looked.

I don't think it's just the lighting. I noticed that same site (My Perfect Color) and it has paint match info. Taking it with a grain of salt, here's the values for Pantone 332c, RAL-6027, and Prismatic Sea Foam Green. All are similar but Pantone 332c has the highest "lightness" by quite a margin. I didn't think to check much before, but you can see Sea Foam Green and RAL-6027 are nearly identical.

https://www.myperfectcolor.com/paint...tone-pms-332-c
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9de1e51353.png


https://www.myperfectcolor.com/paint...sea-foam-green
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...21baa46e93.png


https://www.myperfectcolor.com/paint...ht-green-paint
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...567dbf4032.png

Triplecrank92 03-31-21 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by AJI125 (Post 21993182)
I don't think it's just the lighting. I noticed that same site (My Perfect Color) and it has paint match info. Taking it with a grain of salt, here's the values for Pantone 332c, RAL-6027, and Prismatic Sea Foam Green. All are similar but Pantone 332c has the highest "lightness" by quite a margin. I didn't think to check much before, but you can see Sea Foam Green and RAL-6027 are nearly identical.

https://www.myperfectcolor.com/paint...tone-pms-332-c
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9de1e51353.png


https://www.myperfectcolor.com/paint...sea-foam-green
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...21baa46e93.png


https://www.myperfectcolor.com/paint...ht-green-paint
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...567dbf4032.png

It will be interesting to see how your sea foam turns out so I'm looking forward to seeing the end result. Sea Form was high on my list of final options when picking my paint color.


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