Cinelli Super Corsa
10-06-21, 11:02 PM
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Cinelli Super Corsa
Another bicycle and auction that I want to post in case it hasn't been seen here before, is all. https://www.ebay.com/itm/334116177953
I didn't go big so I stayed home a loser. And I'm getting older, so I couldn't really do this bicycle justice as a rider, even when I was younger.
I wasn't able to find much reference to this frame searching for pictures, a download of Cinelli frames may have provided information, but I wasn't aware of it during the auction.
The wheels and other components I was able to identify the value of to some degree, but I wasn't able to correlate the reasonable worth of the complete bicycle at auction.
So confidence in myself to place an educated guess was sorely lacking, and it still is, for the most part.
$3200 or $4200 seems more like it after the facts, and $1800 was some pretty smart shopping.
I'm sorry for not posting the auction here at the time, if it wasn't known of, but shoulda, coulda, woulda, pretty much sums me up in a nutshell.
I didn't go big so I stayed home a loser. And I'm getting older, so I couldn't really do this bicycle justice as a rider, even when I was younger.
I wasn't able to find much reference to this frame searching for pictures, a download of Cinelli frames may have provided information, but I wasn't aware of it during the auction.
The wheels and other components I was able to identify the value of to some degree, but I wasn't able to correlate the reasonable worth of the complete bicycle at auction.
So confidence in myself to place an educated guess was sorely lacking, and it still is, for the most part.
$3200 or $4200 seems more like it after the facts, and $1800 was some pretty smart shopping.
I'm sorry for not posting the auction here at the time, if it wasn't known of, but shoulda, coulda, woulda, pretty much sums me up in a nutshell.
10-06-21, 11:28 PM
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...I know it's probably just me, but I find these "updated" classic frames, with compact cranks and superfast wheels, visually jarring.
If I had bought that, I'd have spent another 6 or 8 hundred bucks putting it back to a more original configuration, so I'm happy it isn't my size.
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...I know it's probably just me, but I find these "updated" classic frames, with compact cranks and superfast wheels, visually jarring.
If I had bought that, I'd have spent another 6 or 8 hundred bucks putting it back to a more original configuration, so I'm happy it isn't my size.
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10-07-21, 01:12 AM
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I don't have anything like the knowledge of bicycles that many of the members of this forum do have. I'm trying to imagine just how much, or what I would give for a redo at this auction, lots I assume, but the notion is based more on instinct than actual knowledge of this particular bicycle and frame.
I did ask the seller that was thought to be the person that built the bicycle if he could tell me anything much about the frame, he or they seemed asleep or intoxicated, so I didn't ask anything further.
The frame with internal cables and horizontal rear dropouts must be close to 1990, but I'm guessing, and haven't found a picture or any reference material to confirm any such imaginings.
I did ask the seller that was thought to be the person that built the bicycle if he could tell me anything much about the frame, he or they seemed asleep or intoxicated, so I didn't ask anything further.
The frame with internal cables and horizontal rear dropouts must be close to 1990, but I'm guessing, and haven't found a picture or any reference material to confirm any such imaginings.
10-07-21, 06:03 AM
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I agree. Those updates don't help value either. I don't find that $1800 closing price out of line given the modern components. It also had four pics and no description to speak of.
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10-07-21, 06:10 AM
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Back when Campagnolo record 9 speed was new and difficult to get.
a now gone local shop ( too bad ) had a Cinelli frame as such in the window- they took the parts and installed them on another frame.
I think the tag price on the frame was $900.
not a bad price at the time with headset.
a now gone local shop ( too bad ) had a Cinelli frame as such in the window- they took the parts and installed them on another frame.
I think the tag price on the frame was $900.
not a bad price at the time with headset.
10-07-21, 07:11 AM
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I somewhat agree with the above as I have seen and done updates that work, this one is too much. If that is a Chorus 11 group it all could be swapped out cash positive for a nice C Record 7 speed group (I would skip the Delta brakes), a 2021 Selle Italia Turbo Lite and Mavic wheelset and I would be in love.
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10-07-21, 03:17 PM
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I would guess early 90’s (I have an ‘89) except I can only see down tube bottle cage bottle fittings. My ‘89 has external rear brake cable routing. I think the seller should be pleased with $1800 given the lack of info and only 4 fuzzy pics.
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10-07-21, 06:14 PM
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Yes, he sells mostly saxophones, and was selling the bicycle for a deceased friend's family. I tried to ask a question in a message, but the reply was a little incoherent for a written message.
I still wish that I had bid up to $3200, no more, I don't guess, and I'm guessing about that, because I don't know very much about the frame at all, I only suspect that it may have been something special.
My impulsive purchases haven't been particularly wise very often, I haven't tossed away crazy money, yet.
And I've found something in the tool and mechanical end that I like, in the older bicycles aren't too complicated.
Good bicycle tools and repair stands can add up to a few dollars, but it's not the kind of thing that can really snowball.
I still wish that I had bid up to $3200, no more, I don't guess, and I'm guessing about that, because I don't know very much about the frame at all, I only suspect that it may have been something special.
My impulsive purchases haven't been particularly wise very often, I haven't tossed away crazy money, yet.
And I've found something in the tool and mechanical end that I like, in the older bicycles aren't too complicated.
Good bicycle tools and repair stands can add up to a few dollars, but it's not the kind of thing that can really snowball.
10-07-21, 06:47 PM
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Cinelli has always been a nice bike for me, visually. And certainly a nice rider...
but - I have soft spot in my cycling heart for 70's, very, very early 80's bikes
... so a bit off subject focus...
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If I didn't already have a bazillion bikes, I would go for this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/18356061872...kAAOSw5r1cSfGe
I think a good price for the full 70's race machine.
Ride On!
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but - I have soft spot in my cycling heart for 70's, very, very early 80's bikes
... so a bit off subject focus...
OP
If I didn't already have a bazillion bikes, I would go for this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/18356061872...kAAOSw5r1cSfGe
I think a good price for the full 70's race machine.
Ride On!
Yuri
10-07-21, 07:30 PM
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About 3 - 4 years ago, I missed out big time when I was offered a buy it price for a very similar SC (same color and everything.) from a seller in Eureka CA.
He offered it to me at almost the same price + shipping, if I decided not to drive up there from the bay area to pick it up.
I felt it was very fair price,......but I just did not have the budget at that time to buy it
, so I had to let it go to the second dibs buyer.
I was very glad though that the second dibs buyer was one of our prolific C&V forum member who greatly deserves it!
So, I think that SC's current asking price is quite fair.
He offered it to me at almost the same price + shipping, if I decided not to drive up there from the bay area to pick it up.
I felt it was very fair price,......but I just did not have the budget at that time to buy it
, so I had to let it go to the second dibs buyer.I was very glad though that the second dibs buyer was one of our prolific C&V forum member who greatly deserves it!
So, I think that SC's current asking price is quite fair.
10-08-21, 06:08 AM
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...I know it's probably just me, but I find these "updated" classic frames, with compact cranks and superfast wheels, visually jarring.
If I had bought that, I'd have spent another 6 or 8 hundred bucks putting it back to a more original configuration, so I'm happy it isn't my size..
...I know it's probably just me, but I find these "updated" classic frames, with compact cranks and superfast wheels, visually jarring.
If I had bought that, I'd have spent another 6 or 8 hundred bucks putting it back to a more original configuration, so I'm happy it isn't my size.
.Not really any different than several of the bikes I have/had like the 80's Circuit or 90s Duell, Argal, XL Super, etc....
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10-08-21, 10:34 AM
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I had a 90’s Cinelli Super Corsa (59 cm) for a number of years. Outfitted w/ Campy C-Record & SRP Ti upgrade kit. Pd $900 for the frame only new IIRC. Was a fine ride too, but eventually tired of it. I did sell the frame w/ bb & headset about 8 yrs ago for $1500 to a fellow in Toronto, Canada.
He road it for awhile, put Campy Shamal wheels on it & turned for $5K 😩 so he said...
I later learned that the 90’s Super Corsa's were made by Gianni Losa who does frame building for other Italian bike companies as well. I have 2 Titans frames that were made by Losa & are fine rides!
I always thought thought that the paint job on my Cinelli was not very durable & chipped very easily.
He road it for awhile, put Campy Shamal wheels on it & turned for $5K 😩 so he said...
I later learned that the 90’s Super Corsa's were made by Gianni Losa who does frame building for other Italian bike companies as well. I have 2 Titans frames that were made by Losa & are fine rides!
I always thought thought that the paint job on my Cinelli was not very durable & chipped very easily.
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10-08-21, 10:56 AM
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I think $1800 is a fair price for the complete bike which becomes over 2K with shipping & the taxes ebay collects on the sale of used bicycles. Not a smokin' deal especially when you consider the odd build.
It's a nice wheelset but doesn't belong on that bike. I'm not opposed to mixing components from different eras but in this case it's comes off as jarring. The wide black spokes in a modern lace pattern doesn't mesh. That's what you see on a TIG welded frame with over-size tubes and sloping toptube.
This classic steel frame has chrome plated lugs!
It's a nice wheelset but doesn't belong on that bike. I'm not opposed to mixing components from different eras but in this case it's comes off as jarring. The wide black spokes in a modern lace pattern doesn't mesh. That's what you see on a TIG welded frame with over-size tubes and sloping toptube.
This classic steel frame has chrome plated lugs!
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