Hondo6

Oh, I was pretty sure you were not being completely serious. But some here are pretty serious (or at least seem pretty serious) when it comes to considering brifters of any sort (STIs/Ergos/DoubleTaps/whatever) as being, "Tools of the Devil!" Just wanted to make my opinion on the subject clear.

Currently, I have more bikes with DT shifters than not. That may change over the next few years, but I rather doubt brifters will ever end up the majority. But brifters have their advantages, and certainly are nice once you get used to them.

My bikes suit me, and I could care less what others think of them. Others can ride whatever they want.

repechage

I would discount it then without credible attribution.

AdventureManCO 

Sounds good to me - let's do it.

Hondo6

Amigo, if it pleases you while you ride it . . . then IMO it's not junk. At that point its pedigree or past history is irrelevant.

3alarmer

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...where I live, if you don't have at least one bike that looks like junk, you can't use a bicycle to go grocery shopping.

PTL011

Sorry about the late reply. I think I am gonna give the Colnago hype the benefit of the doubt of a couple more months...perhaps with better tires...we will see what happens..stay tuned!

equinoxranch

Not wanting to discredit ANY marque, in spite of the fact a number of marque have been hyped/over-hyped over the years.

Colnago, as per their standard geometry have always been excellent. NOT a bike for everyone. Per its geometry, it is not a bike as "relaxed" as a number of other brand. "Relaxed" IS good! They're not nervous, just not "relaxed". But, in the right hands - assuming properly built, beginning and ending with SOLID wheels, thank you, Colnago has always been excellent.
Go back four, five plus decades to the easier times when EV and climate change was not being rammed down society's gullet, when pre-assembled "bikes" with en suite "gruppo" were not 100% from China....., and making one's name in the frame marque business was not easy. Nor cheap. Colnago (Ernesto) turned out excellent design and promo'd heavily. He won. DeRosa won. Bianchi won, etc......... Who amongst you know of Dei, Picchio, Galmozzi, Messina, Fiorelli, just to mention but a handful of superior builders/brands that never made the cut? Reflect upon what few - less than a handful today still exist, blessedly dedicated in turning out a superior lugged steel frame....... And for well into two plus decades, Campagnolo (a privately owned/family company) make the overwhelming majority of their revenue via the aviation and aerospace industry where they are, no surprise, unrivaled. Whenever you fly commercial, Campagnolo ARE getting you there.......

Colnago knows what works beyond the standard - required - proven trigonometry rules in terms of marketing. Therein lies the brand's "mystique".

Soody

Stiffness is relative to how strong you are and how hard you ride. A flatteringly noodly bike may charm a casual rider over something actually designed for monsters of the past

CliffordK

As far as finish...

The old Colnago Super bikes have only a chrome fork crown. Mine came with over the bottom bracket cable guides, and a single derailleur cable stop. Everything else was clamp on.

By that time, other brands had chrome head tube lugs, chrome dropouts, perhaps a chrome chainstay.

Dad's old Torpado appeared to be painted over a fully chromed frame.

Some companies were using internal cable routing quite early.

The Supers were markedly plain.

At some point Colnago did introduce the Superissimo that got the chrome head tube lugs. But they also stopped painting forks.

The Colnago Chrome work may leave a bit to be desired. My old Colnago Super has had fork crown rust spots for as long as I can remember.

For a pure race bike, perhaps one doesn't need all the foofoo stuff.

It wasn't until a little later when Colnago started experimenting with shaped tubes, and unique paint jobs that they really came into their own.

Anyway, there may be other similar era bikes that have far nicer finish.

repechage

I own a 1968 Coppi by Fiorelli. Pretty decent machine. 50 years ago It was noted to be a good machine by an owner of one who bought it in Italy. Mine has middle level components, Tipo hubs, Gran Sport derailleurs, Universal brakes, Stronglight cranks. The handling is not Colnago sharp but better for longer rides. Nicely built, the frame received some of the effort the "small" builders did, the seatlug ears filled with a tube and brass then sculpted back like Masi, Pogliaghi and Colnago did, the slot has a stress riser relief that DeRosa neglected, in other words, decent details throughout. Under appreciated.
the chrome could be better.

CliffordK

Oh, another thing about Colnago. Early Colnago Supers had some kind of a paint transfer method. Someone described it, but I lost it. By the late 70's or early 80's, Colnago switched over to some really ugly decals. Then into the 90's, they returned to paint.

If the bike has been repainted, chances are that someone stuck decals on it. Some decal work is of excellent quality. Some is of mediocre quality.

repechage

Colnago used varnish fix transfers for the majority of the graphics. Some Pre 1970 bikes had foil backed world stripes and the Columbus graphic varied in application type. Many were stickers.

as I recall in 1974, the graphics package was revised and updated, now a clear sticker carrier, best noted by the Colnago stacked text on the seat tube. At the time I thought this was a cost savings and higher volume attempt. I like the earlier graphics.
Almost at the same time was the introduction of the chrome fork, easier to just keep track of sizes, all the colors got chrome.