Interesting Discovery
07-12-25 | 05:05 PM
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Interesting Discovery
Hi folks,
While servicing and rebuilding a 1964 Holdsworth Typhoon discovered some interesting lacing on the rear wheel. The drive side is laced 4X and the non drive side is laced 3X. I vaguely remember this being done to equalize the tension of the DS & NDS spokes. Does anyone else know about this technique?
BTW, the hubs are Milremo laced to Rigida rims. I built this up several years ago as a single speed quasi path racer, but don’t remember the specific parts.
Thanks & regards,
Van
While servicing and rebuilding a 1964 Holdsworth Typhoon discovered some interesting lacing on the rear wheel. The drive side is laced 4X and the non drive side is laced 3X. I vaguely remember this being done to equalize the tension of the DS & NDS spokes. Does anyone else know about this technique?
BTW, the hubs are Milremo laced to Rigida rims. I built this up several years ago as a single speed quasi path racer, but don’t remember the specific parts.
Thanks & regards,
Van
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07-12-25 | 05:31 PM
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framebuilder
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From: Niles, Michigan
Did you count the front and back spoke holes? England back then was known for doing 40 hole rears and 32 hole fronts. By crossing 4 on one wheel and 3 on the other, similar length spokes could be used on both wheels.
07-12-25 | 06:57 PM
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feros ferio
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
Hi folks,
While servicing and rebuilding a 1964 Holdsworth Typhoon discovered some interesting lacing on the rear wheel. The drive side is laced 4X and the non drive side is laced 3X. I vaguely remember this being done to equalize the tension of the DS & NDS spokes. Does anyone else know about this technique?
BTW, the hubs are Milremo laced to Rigida rims. I built this up several years ago as a single speed quasi path racer, but don’t remember the specific parts.
Thanks & regards,
Van
While servicing and rebuilding a 1964 Holdsworth Typhoon discovered some interesting lacing on the rear wheel. The drive side is laced 4X and the non drive side is laced 3X. I vaguely remember this being done to equalize the tension of the DS & NDS spokes. Does anyone else know about this technique?
BTW, the hubs are Milremo laced to Rigida rims. I built this up several years ago as a single speed quasi path racer, but don’t remember the specific parts.
Thanks & regards,
Van
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
07-12-25 | 08:39 PM
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From: Fiscal Conservative on the Lefty Coast - Oregon
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Doug Fattic , John E
Thanks for the feedback.
Both hubs are 36 hole high flange. They look like the Normandy ones from that era. I didn’t take any spokes out and measure them, but checking as best I could with a ruler, indicates that the fronts are 291/292mm. The drive side rears are 300/301mm and the non drive side are 292/293mm. Hope this helps.
Thanks & regards,
Van
Thanks for the feedback.
Both hubs are 36 hole high flange. They look like the Normandy ones from that era. I didn’t take any spokes out and measure them, but checking as best I could with a ruler, indicates that the fronts are 291/292mm. The drive side rears are 300/301mm and the non drive side are 292/293mm. Hope this helps.
Thanks & regards,
Van
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07-13-25 | 01:54 PM
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Wheelman
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From: Putney, London UK
Bikes: 1982 Holdsworth Avanti (531), 1961 Holdsworth Cyclone, 1953 Holdsworth Whirlwind
I recently built some wheels for my 1953 Whirlwind.
Campy Nuovo Tipo large flange 95/120mm, ultra-6 on the back.
Mavic Monthlery Route 700c 36 hole 3x.
Front spokes 293mm
Rear spokes 292/293mm
Campy Nuovo Tipo large flange 95/120mm, ultra-6 on the back.
Mavic Monthlery Route 700c 36 hole 3x.
Front spokes 293mm
Rear spokes 292/293mm
