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10-12-13, 11:37 AM
#3876
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That seatpost lasted one ride:
Lardass + Leverage = Garbage can.
Thus the change to the redline straight post in the upper picture.
Lardass + Leverage = Garbage can.
Thus the change to the redline straight post in the upper picture.
10-12-13, 11:47 AM
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Not sure what the original rear der. was. All I have ever had to go by was the old ebay pic above that was passed on from a few owners of the frame before me. On the few rides I have done it has worked great through the 5 speed freewheel and I would put it above the Hueret's I have on other early builds. The novelty of Mtb's in 79 was you could pick what you had in the bin and see how well it lasted. This was still four years before Suntour would come out with their Mountec group and Shimano with the Deerhead.
10-12-13, 12:41 PM
#3878
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Not sure what the original rear der. was. All I have ever had to go by was the old ebay pic above that was passed on from a few owners of the frame before me. On the few rides I have done it has worked great through the 5 speed freewheel and I would put it above the Hueret's I have on other early builds. The novelty of Mtb's in 79 was you could pick what you had in the bin and see how well it lasted. This was still four years before Suntour would come out with their Mountec group and Shimano with the Deerhead.
Shimano Deerhead was very nice stuff and the friction shifters are among the best ever made.
10-12-13, 12:57 PM
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Ironically, one of my current projects is an 83 Ritchey Competition. So caught up in the Catalog build, I will be passing up on the available deerhead group and sticking with Cyclone there too.
https://oldmountainbikes.com/catalogs...kes1983_05.jpg
No doubt, The build was planned for a light weight.
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10-12-13, 01:06 PM
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Be careful what you ask for. I just picked up a different project where that dirt drop setup would look better, and thats a lot from a person who's favorite bikes are old fillet brazed Ritcheys. Came with some pretty cool rollercams front and rear also. Me thinks the Ritchey will get a facelift away from the dirt drop setup soon. Unless I can find another LD stem somewhere.
10-12-13, 01:17 PM
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The bike is very cool, and I can see why you're trying to recreate it. I like the wheels, but wonder how good can hub drum brakes be?
10-12-13, 01:51 PM
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In 79 the options were drum brakes, Schwinn clamp on canti's, or probably the preferred Mafac canti's if you could get canti mounts welded on your frame/fork. I am not a BMX collector but I suppose there were cheap BMX brake mount options also. The drum brakes feel like.... Well, drum brakes.... Not great but they are what they are.
Certainly not the most comfortable ride in the garage, the pedals, saddle and tires are pretty to look at but are also very sub par to modern bits.
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10-12-13, 04:26 PM
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Seriously T., what did you find?
10-12-13, 06:23 PM
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What the heck?!!! What is it? Where do you find this stuff? Are you saying you found something new and cool after you had come to own the Moots Mountaineer? Unreal, c'mon man... no wonder I can't find any rare gems, they're at your house! Oh, and while you're at it, maybe taunt my envious nature with some of that titanium and carbon Campy stuff, I never get tired of looking at those gems!
Seriously T., what did you find?
Seriously T., what did you find?
Been eating Top Ramen for a week.
Long ways before photo's .
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10-13-13, 07:16 AM
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Back in the late 70's if you couldn't afford or didn't have access to the handful of Ritchey's that were available to the public, but wanted more than an old prewar Schwinn to hit the hills with, there was the option of converting a cruiser class BMX frame to MTB; Cook Bros, Laguna, Champion etc. This frame is a Champion Double Downtube Cruiser that was converted to MTB with the addition of cable guides, der hangar, water bottle mount, and bash guard.
A picture of the original build, I have been trying to emulate for quite some time:
Getting close but not there yet. A few changes since this pic. Got the Uniroyal Nobbies. Still need to touch up some paint, re do the decals, make a skid plate, die my light black and mount it, put on the bottle cage, find an era correct bottle. Then I will call it done.
A picture of the original build, I have been trying to emulate for quite some time:
Getting close but not there yet. A few changes since this pic. Got the Uniroyal Nobbies. Still need to touch up some paint, re do the decals, make a skid plate, die my light black and mount it, put on the bottle cage, find an era correct bottle. Then I will call it done.
I remember begging for a BMX bike with the unbendable rims ( Skyway's ) for Christmas, I didn't even know what BMX was I just needed wheels that could stand the punishment I put forth everyday. I wanted to build the ultimate jumper a Yamaha MX with Skyway wheels, I got the wheels but never found a complete Yamaha MX as they were always missing the forks. Growing up in the era of Evel Knievel sure was a lot of fun.
Glenn
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10-13-13, 03:54 PM
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Just killer, back in 79 I was more interested in my GI Joe's (12"), and my Huffy MX 20" bike. If I had ever had a MTB in the 80's I am pretty sure I would be dead or crippled right now, I was a jumper doing things a 3spd 26" bike were never designed to do, if the frame didn't bend in half or both crank arms weren't pointing straight down after a landing then we needed to find something higher to jump.
I remember begging for a BMX bike with the unbendable rims ( Skyway's ) for Christmas, I didn't even know what BMX was I just needed wheels that could stand the punishment I put forth everyday. I wanted to build the ultimate jumper a Yamaha MX with Skyway wheels, I got the wheels but never found a complete Yamaha MX as they were always missing the forks. Growing up in the era of Evel Knievel sure was a lot of fun.
Glenn
I remember begging for a BMX bike with the unbendable rims ( Skyway's ) for Christmas, I didn't even know what BMX was I just needed wheels that could stand the punishment I put forth everyday. I wanted to build the ultimate jumper a Yamaha MX with Skyway wheels, I got the wheels but never found a complete Yamaha MX as they were always missing the forks. Growing up in the era of Evel Knievel sure was a lot of fun.
Glenn
10-14-13, 03:36 AM
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Bike polo bike complete.. for now. Need to try out the gearing and once I settle on something I'll remove the rest of the cassette. until then i can change speeds by adjusting the limit screw, though the chainline is pretty bad on the small/small setting.
22x15.. BEAST GEARING
22x15.. BEAST GEARING
10-14-13, 06:28 AM
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i can find them in 27.2 really easily but 27.0, not so much. I did find one in the UK for $32 shipped which isn't too bad
10-14-13, 07:03 AM
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yes i've also considered that.. though if i have to get a shim shipped it will probably end up costing close to the same price anyways
10-14-13, 07:44 AM
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10-14-13, 08:22 AM
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Picked up a 3rd Ross, Trek Y22 OCLV Carbon and a Schwinn Homegrown. It was a good weekend: The Ross bikes have a few subtle differences.
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10-14-13, 09:03 AM
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I just want to throw my NEW mtb into the mix just to show how some bikes have recently stepped backwards, technology wise.
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This amazing bike is not at all far removed from my very first mtb back in 1983. Swap out the disc brakes and indexed shifting, and this exact bike could have been built back then. The innovations here are of design (really big wheels and tires, frame geometry) and not of tech/engineering.
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This amazing bike is not at all far removed from my very first mtb back in 1983. Swap out the disc brakes and indexed shifting, and this exact bike could have been built back then. The innovations here are of design (really big wheels and tires, frame geometry) and not of tech/engineering.
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10-14-13, 01:07 PM
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A beautiful bike yes, but don't think I would agree with you about it being the same as what was available in 1983. Sure Cunningham had already introuduced the sloping top tube but looking at the wheel clearance between that tire and the bent seat tube, the 29" wheels, The tires with real tread etc. that bike has come a long ways from what was offered in 83.
Who made a mass produced seat post that would have been long enough for that frame in 83? Compact crank, 9 (or 10) speed rear cassette etc....
A few of mine from 83/84. Rest assured they have totally different geometry and ride characteristics than what your modern Surley has:
84 Moots:
83 Mountain Goat (not my build, original owners. I am not done yet with mine. Need proper bar/stem):
81 Ritchey (a little older than 83 but still the same angles as My 83 Ritchey that I don't have a complete pic of):
Who made a mass produced seat post that would have been long enough for that frame in 83? Compact crank, 9 (or 10) speed rear cassette etc....
A few of mine from 83/84. Rest assured they have totally different geometry and ride characteristics than what your modern Surley has:
84 Moots:
83 Mountain Goat (not my build, original owners. I am not done yet with mine. Need proper bar/stem):
81 Ritchey (a little older than 83 but still the same angles as My 83 Ritchey that I don't have a complete pic of):
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10-14-13, 02:57 PM
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Specialized has also just pushed a full rigid 29'er to market that is in the 20 lb range as well -- and a lot of folks are running 1x9 and 1x10 drivetrains to simplify things even more
I love all 3 of the bikes you posted ---especially the Ritchey !
10-14-13, 05:39 PM
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I was searching for a bontrager bike just this morning, today....in walks an older gentlemen asking if anyone would be interested in a used Bontrager frame....crazy !
Bonus: Spec Ti / Carbon Fork.
Bonus: Spec Ti / Carbon Fork.
