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Old 08-20-18, 08:00 AM
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I can’t remember if I posted it or not, but here is this past weekend’s use of my ‘89 Rock Combo. Too bad the “Monster-cross” term didn’t exist yet, it might have lasted more than one model year.

I got a lot of nice comments (and likely pity behind my back). I did three laps on this bike for a total of 25 miles and 4,500 vertical feet. I can say that it was not entirely pleasant on rocky descents, but it climbed like a champ and flowy downhill was fun. I wasn’t the only full rigid frame, but I was the only full rigid frame with tubes and tires under 3” wide. 2” wasn’t enough cushion. I could really use a riser stem too. My low back was barking by the time I got done with each lap. I got to demo a full suspension Salsa Horsethief and dropped my lap time by 2 minutes... be still my burning wallet...

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Originally Posted by mountaindave
I can’t remember if I posted it or not, but here is this past weekend’s use of my ‘89 Rock Combo. Too bad the “Monster-cross” term didn’t exist yet, it might have lasted more than one model year.

I got a lot of nice comments (and likely pity behind my back). I did three laps on this bike for a total of 25 miles and 4,500 vertical feet. I can say that it was not entirely pleasant on rocky descents, but it climbed like a champ and flowy downhill was fun. I wasn’t the only full rigid frame, but I was the only full rigid frame with tubes and tires under 3” wide. 2” wasn’t enough cushion. I could really use a riser stem too. My low back was barking by the time I got done with each lap. I got to demo a full suspension Salsa Horsethief and dropped my lap time by 2 minutes... be still my burning wallet...

Sweet! Looks like you all had a nice ride. The win goes to the kid though. He has that look. lol
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Sweet! Looks like you all had a nice ride. The win goes to the kid though. He has that look. lol
MTB, kayak, skis, hockey - you name it, he shreds it!
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MTB, kayak, skis, hockey - you name it, he shreds it!
Cool kid!
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Kuwahara Siera Grande 1985


This Kuwahara Siera Grande found its way into my garage in NZ. It has the Fred Deely sticker as well as a "sold and serviced" Western Cycles, Edmonton on it. (Sadly no deer head rear derailleur). I do not know if this bike was imported by a NZ business or not, but expect it was brought over personally. Whatever it is in truly spectacular condition and with Maxxis cream walled tyres on it (2.3!) looks fantastic and is an absolute hoot to ride. I do love the wide bullmoose handlebars. The motorcycle brake? levers are reassuring and the Araya RM 25 rims are a thing of shiny beauty as is the fork.
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My wife took out the Cinelli a couple days ago for a ride and liked it. She wasn't crazy about the suspension fork because it seemed 'clunky' to her so I swapped it out for a rigid fork. It shaved a couple pounds off the weight. It now weighs 25 pounds.



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I recently picked up this early 90's Cinelli 'The Next Machine' for my wife for super cheap. It is a pretty rare bike and has Campy (I believe Centaur) mountain components. I did a complete overhaul and put on new cables. The saddle was not my my choice but she insisted on a comfy saddle so I delivered. Since she never goes off road I put on 1.25" slick tires. This is her second bike. Her other bike is an early 90's Bianchi Grizzly with a comfy saddle and 1.25 slicks. We will see which one she likes better.


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I love the raised chain stays on the Cinelli. An ancestor to the “dropped” drive side chainstay on some modern bikes to maintain low Q and/or good chainring clearance?

I’m not surprised by your wife’s experience given the age of the bike and her intended use. Was the shock even functioning properly? It looks very classy with a rigid fork.
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Back on the road. This bike rides great, and I think once I get some drop bars and bar cons on it, and some 1.75 paselas on it it will be a perfect go anywhere bike.
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Here is my 1991 Gary Fisher Paragon made with Tange prestige quad-butted tubing.



It's main job is running quick errands, but it took me on a 45 mile fire road cruise in the above photo.
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Here is my vintage ride

Pretty fun to take this out every once in a while. I bought this bike back in 1996 from Bargain Basement bikes in Tucson AZ while going to college. It got me around town and also around some cool trails outside of town. I am going to get a new bike at the end of the year, but I will never give this one up, riding it takes me back to 1996!

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My coworker found this at the goodwill for 20 bucks. He bought it, hid the receipt and I went and picked it up after work. From what I can tell it is a 1992 Hardrock that someone tried to convert to single speed.











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Started to switch out parts, I had a old stem and bars that i threw on and this seat for now. I got rid of the rear derailleur and tried cutting the chain but it is still too long and im not sure I can cut more off. I want to get a black seat post and black crankset next to replace this one. Do you all think that this crankset will work on this bike?

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Looks like you have semi horizontal dropouts, so not a lot of room to take up slack in the chain. That’s probably why there was still a rear derailleur on there. If you can’t grt the chain tensioned properly, you may need a bolt-on tensioner.

Thet crank lists its spindle length requirement. Check what you have already. There are some pretty cheap black cranksets on eBay too. You may just have to experiment since this is a MTB, not a road bike.

And if that front hub is original, OE date code indicates 1990.
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Originally Posted by mountaindave
Looks like you have semi horizontal dropouts, so not a lot of room to take up slack in the chain. That’s probably why there was still a rear derailleur on there. If you can’t grt the chain tensioned properly, you may need a bolt-on tensioner.

Thet crank lists its spindle length requirement. Check what you have already. There are some pretty cheap black cranksets on eBay too. You may just have to experiment since this is a MTB, not a road bike.

And if that front hub is original, OE date code indicates 1990.
Hard Rocks of this vintage have a real weird dropout. It looks like a semi-horizontal when there's a wheel skewered in there, but they left a bridge when machining the dropout to act as a stop.

Hard to describe, so here's a picture I found on the internet:

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Originally Posted by tiredhands
Hard Rocks of this vintage have a real weird dropout. It looks like a semi-horizontal when there's a wheel skewered in there, but they left a bridge when machining the dropout to act as a stop.
Good catch! I’ve come across those on occasion but it didn’t cross my radar. Not sure why they didn’t go vertical dropout...
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Both my kids have 1990s Hardrock bikes with dropouts as pictured above. If you guys would like more pictures, just let me know and I'll be glad to post some.
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If that Hard Rock is a keeper couldn't you just cut out the dropout so the wheel pulls back farther, looking at the picture above it sure looks like that would work.

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Yeah the dropouts are the same I wondered about cutting that dropout too!
I had cut the chain and tried sliding back the wheel and wondered why it wasn't sliding back then I noticed the dropout.

As for cranks I was just concerned if it would work. I figured it would require a different bottom bracket, Im sure there will be some trial and error.

The only reason I thought it was a 1992 was because looking through catalogs that year was fitted with Shimano 200GS, serial is GX007994.
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Raleigh Mountain Technium

Arborist / landscaper, so had the day off due to heavy rains all day.
Scanning craigslist and found this real nice Raleigh Technium for $45.
Can't find much wear on it at all. Pictured as found.
Got a soft spot for the U-Brake time period..... Its a keeper.




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Yeah the dropouts are the same I wondered about cutting that dropout too!
I had cut the chain and tried sliding back the wheel and wondered why it wasn't sliding back then I noticed the dropout.

As for cranks I was just concerned if it would work. I figured it would require a different bottom bracket, Im sure there will be some trial and error.

The only reason I thought it was a 1992 was because looking through catalogs that year was fitted with Shimano 200GS, serial is GX007994.
Why not just put a single speed chainring on the existing crankset? Lot cheaper that way.

if you really want a black crankset I would look into a square taper MTB crankset from that era. A track crankset will have a spider and large chainring that might hit the chainstay on a MTB, which are pushed out to accomodate a larger tire.

You'll need a chain tensioner, or to put that derailleur back on, to tension the chain. I would get a Surly chain tensioner.

You will need to experiment with bottom bracket spindle length or cassette spacing to get the right chainline.
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Originally Posted by jamesj
Started to switch out parts, I had a old stem and bars that i threw on and this seat for now. I got rid of the rear derailleur and tried cutting the chain but it is still too long and im not sure I can cut more off. I want to get a black seat post and black crankset next to replace this one. Do you all think that this crankset will work on this bike?

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You might want to try getting the tension right with one of these half links. https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Z51-OL-Ha.../dp/B001CN5LXU
They also come for 1/8" single speed chain.
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Arborist / landscaper, so had the day off due to heavy rains all day.

Anybody have info on those hubs "Diabolo"? Does that say made in France?
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<<Anybody have info on those hubs "Diabolo"? Does that say made in France?>>

I've got no further info, but did a closeup look.
Correct on the 'made in France'.
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Wait. Doesn't that 'M' that's between the 'made in' & 'France', stand for Mailard?
Maybe a lower end hub under the Mailard brand, like the different levels Shimano or Campy has?

Where does this Mountain Technium fall in the Raleigh catalog?
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Wait. Doesn't that 'M' that's between the 'made in' & 'France', stand for Mailard?
Maybe a lower end hub under the Mailard brand, like the different levels Shimano or Campy has?

Where does this Mountain Technium fall in the Raleigh catalog?
I sold those new in 1988. That was the entry level version. Raleigh used the French hubs on that model and the Deore version. Both were using freewheels. Only the XT version got Japanese freehubs.

I'm spacing on the name of the model. The Deore bike was white and called The Chill, and the XT version was green and called The Peak.
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