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Old 09-23-20, 09:22 AM
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My 1998 Moots Y Be Beat doing what I built it for









It was supposed to be an overnighter in the canyons of southeastern Colorado but it ended up being a day of trying differentiate trails from cowpaths without much success. I ended up back were I started. I stripped all the gear off...no need to just carry it around...and spent another day of trying to differentiate trails from cowpaths with a bit more success.

This is good trail.



This is a “trail”

This is actually a pretty good trail but it leads to


This. I was somewhat astounded by the amount of water in one of the driest areas of Colorado in a drought year. There were springs...flowing springs...everywhere.


I did get to one of the most remote state line markers I’ve ever been to. I’m reasonable certain that there wasn’t another human within 20 miles of me at that point.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
My 1998 Moots Y Be Beat doing what I built it for









It was supposed to be an overnighter in the canyons of southeastern Colorado but it ended up being a day of trying differentiate trails from cowpaths without much success. I ended up back were I started. I stripped all the gear off...no need to just carry it around...and spent another day of trying to differentiate trails from cowpaths with a bit more success.

This is good trail.



This is a “trail”

This is actually a pretty good trail but it leads to


This. I was somewhat astounded by the amount of water in one of the driest areas of Colorado in a drought year. There were springs...flowing springs...everywhere.


I did get to one of the most remote state line markers I’ve ever been to. I’m reasonable certain that there wasn’t another human within 20 miles of me at that point.
A fence at the border, Oklahoma has a serious hangup for legal recreational weed, huh? The sign looks like it's been used for target practice too, so no love lost!
Is it privately-held land you're on, or Gov't? Here in the east it's usually a river, and if it isn't, it's generally only fenced if it's private.
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cyccommute Around here, you have to decipher between the recreational trails and the paths to the vagrant camps.
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Originally Posted by Unca_Sam
cyccommute Around here, you have to decipher between the recreational trails and the paths to the vagrant camps.
I’m used to that. Cows have less of an agenda. These are also US Forest Service “trails”. I think they may have been established by the CCC, although they don’t have the artistry that you’d expect from them.
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I was going to say, most fences you run into are to control livestock.
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Originally Posted by curbtender
I was going to say, most fences you run into are to control livestock.
In the area where I was riding, most of it is open range. There’s a fence for the state line and to keep cattle out of sensitive archeological areas but for the most part there aren’t many fences. It’s actually a bit surprising given the number of fences that are out on the Colorado plains.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
In the area where I was riding, most of it is open range. There’s a fence for the state line and to keep cattle out of sensitive archeological areas but for the most part there aren’t many fences. It’s actually a bit surprising given the number of fences that are out on the Colorado plains.
I looked at the satellite images of that border because I was curious if there was perhaps tribal land in what used to be "Indian Territory". But there's just a whole lot of open space. I can see why that was your destination.
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At first glance, I thought you did some custom cloudy paint on the tt! lol
I'd go with purple with the new decals.
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Pre-winter stripping and repaint. But got new tires and new to me Brooks saddle that fits like a glove. Thanks to previous owner for the break in. What color do i paint this beauty? Purple to dark fade with yellow decal? Purple with lime green decals? Green with white decals?
Can I ask where you found those tires? I've been looking online and everywhere is either sold out or asking the moon.
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Originally Posted by Unca_Sam
cyccommute Around here, you have to decipher between the recreational trails and the paths to the vagrant camps.
Around here, there is no longer any difference between the two; the paths/trails (and parks) have become homeless camps.
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Originally Posted by Unca_Sam
I looked at the satellite images of that border because I was curious if there was perhaps tribal land in what used to be "Indian Territory". But there's just a whole lot of open space. I can see why that was your destination.
I grew up about 100 miles to the northwest of here. I spent a lot of my formative years tromping around in the canyons of southeastern Colorado and still have an appreciation for it. I can almost guarantee that it’s unknown to 99.9999% of Colorado residents. If it ain’t in the mountains around Summit County, most Coloradans don’t even know the rest of the state exists.

This was “Indian Territory” up until about 1865. I even found a date carved in a stone in the area from 1861 or 1864 (hard to tell). That’s a time that would have gotten most people who used our dating system seriously dead if they were caught down there.


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Suffering from component-group-OCD I can finally correct this 1989 MB-1 (with 1994 XT). The lowly LX cranks will be substituted for NOS XT tomorrow. Just got them home.



With LX cranks it looks like this. What a difference it will make. Or not...



I guess I am crazy after all.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute

Looks well thought out.

What rear rack is that?
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Originally Posted by kjaioqhbkqb
Looks well thought out.

What rear rack is that?
It’s a Tubus Airy ‘cause, well, it just has to be, doesn’t it
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It’s a Tubus Airy ‘cause, well, it just has to be, doesn’t it
What's the solid black platform?

Looks cool.
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Originally Posted by kjaioqhbkqb
What's the solid black platform?

Looks cool.
That is an Ortlieb Rack Adapter. I use them on my trunk bags along with an adapter for bicycle baskets from Ortlieb. I gave up on Velcro straps for rack bags ages ago because I got tired of chasing them when they fell off. The two pieces lock together and never come off. The connection is so good that I can actually carry the bike around by the trunk bag.

I used one of the adapters to make a mount for micropanniers made from handlebar bags for bikepacking. They don’t carry much but I don’t need that much capacity.






Here’s the trunk bag attached to the adapter

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Can I ask where you found those tires? I've been looking online and everywhere is either sold out or asking the moon.
Everything is low on stock. Even worse, there's a real push to cut back on our choices of 559 tires and wheels. An industry marketing initiative to sell new 650B's, according to my people anyway. I don't doubt it.
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I have been looking for an old Rock Hopper to no avail so far in my price range, components, size vector but I did have this Shogun Prairie Breaker I come up and for $50 with lugs, bullmoose bars, thumbies and a biplane fork I couldn't say no. I am going to ride it in the clunker challenge and then give it a tear down over the winter.


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I have been looking for an old Rock Hopper to no avail so far in my price range, components, size vector but I did have this Shogun Prairie Breaker I come up and for $50 with lugs, bullmoose bars, thumbies and a biplane fork I couldn't say no. I am going to ride it in the clunker challenge and then give it a tear down over the winter.as foundafter a first pass at clean up and assessment
IMHO, you are already starting with a better frame and fork than any of the Rockhopper series would offer. Kit it out with some nice, period Deore XT and what you would have rivals the early Stumpyumpers for pure riding performance. Building it up as an all-rounder would give you the most bang for your buck, as these bikes are comfy and trouble-free after the initial dial-in. Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress.

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Originally Posted by DQRider
IMHO, you are already starting with a better frame and fork than any of the Rockhopper series would offer. Kit it out with some nice, period Deore XT and what you would have rivals the early Stumpyumpers for pure riding performance. Building it up as an all-rounder would give you the most bang for your buck, as these bikes are comfy and trouble-free after the initial dial-in. Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress.

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Bullmoose bars are going upwards of $200 on ebay so you got a hell of a find.
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Originally Posted by DQRider
IMHO, you are already starting with a better frame and fork than any of the Rockhopper series would offer. Kit it out with some nice, period Deore XT and what you would have rivals the early Stumpyumpers for pure riding performance. Building it up as an all-rounder would give you the most bang for your buck, as these bikes are comfy and trouble-free after the initial dial-in. Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress.

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Thanks for the wise words DQRider I think this bike will be fun and one thing I like about the clunker challenge is that it forces me to ride a bike, a lot, before I fill a cart with new stuff. It really gives me a sense of what I like and don't like about a bike before I start tearing it down. Spent this morning cleaning up the filthy drive train so I can lube the chain and start putting in rides towards 100 km. Finding new 26" tires is challenging these days, I found some Schwable jet city's, not the wider gum walls I wanted, but at this point I will take the black wall 26 x 1.5 now and worry about something more perfect later.
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