guygadois 

Nice looking Italian steel with ***SHUDDER*** Dura-Ace . I can't see this going for near $1000. Nice tubing but I feel the components are not very intriguing.

GG

deaonerox

Thanks, GG
Welllll, since I was seriously high-balling when I said a grand, do you think you could narrow down the spread? Yeah, i wasn't thrilled with some of the components either. Battaglin's originally had Campy componets I think. I think a bike this sweet would be worth some component upgrades, no?There's only one bid on it (even though it's really too early to tell what'll happen in four days). But, could it be obscure enough to be overlooked (fingers crossed)??? Then, I also wanna convert it with a flip-flop hub.

Also, is Columbus synonymous with CroMo?

bigbossman 

Funny thing - when my daughter's Battaglin Giro was fished out of a local thrift shop, it was sporting a Shimano indexed 6 speed drive train. Nice frame, and a great little ride - after I stripped off the Japanese stuff and rebuilt it with Campy.

As far as the bike the OP's watching in the auction, anything is possible - but I'd guess somewhere between $300-$500, and I'd bet on the low side because of owner's shipping restrictions and the pedestrian components. As far as being obscure enough to be overlooked, you pretty much killed that when you created this thread. We may all be "friends" here, but there are lots of eyes looking, and you greatly expanded the field.

Personally, I'm with GG on this. I'd only be interested in it as a nice buildable frameset, as the components are not a pleasing match to the bike.
I'd value that frame set at about $300, so snagging it at any price in that neighborhood would be my target - but the shipping charges would be a show-stopper.

squirtdad

easthill alert....mixte Rivendell might be a bit large 50cm

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/734267815.html

deaonerox

^^^D'OH!!

Thanks. That's helpful. And hopefully on the mark. I'll keep on watching and see what unfolds.

guygadois 

I recently sold a bunch of older Dura-Ace stuff on eBay and got some money back. Plan on maybe 100-150 back for some of those DA components.

guygadois 

FWIW, nothing on eBay goes unnoticed.

deaonerox

Point very well taken. Let's say then: "obscure enough not to pique much interest."

Blue Order

Occasionally, somebody makes a typo, and those tend to get overlooked. Not necessarily overlooked, but less likely to be noticed, I think.

jgmacg

I thus await the lucky day I blunder across the unnoticed 1973 All-Chrome Schwing Panamount.

nlerner

My best find along those lines was a '71 Raleigh Super Course: the seller misspelled "Raleigh" and didn't list any components so nothing really would turn up on just about all searches. I didn't get it for free--it went for $81, I believe.

Neal

Marrock

Was that the one with the unobtanium frame?

due ruote 

What's with that biz about reversing the rear brake for wet conditions? Am I behind the curve?

guygadois 

Yeah, too much water on the head makes people think strangley.

dannyg1 

Well let's parse this one to see what it's worth and estimate a final bid:

Frame + Fork: With paint in fair shape and no troubles I'd say it would sell for $285 pretty safely.
Wheels/tires: The wheels are nothing special but with the tires, I'd say they're worth $100.
Shifters (Sora 8spd): Sell for around $90.
H'bar + stem: Worth more but sell for around $35 in clean shape on Ebay.
Seatpost+seat: There's some money here. Syncos titanium $120 (or better) in goodshape. Spec'd Toupe sells for $80 all the time.

Dura Ace stuff:
H'set: $60
Crank: $145 in clean shape
FD: $25
RD: $35
Cassette: $40
Shifters: $15-20
Brake Levers: $55
BB: $15

The rest of the stuff is a giveaway gimme, including the brakes, which are worth more as pads alone.

So the build would cost around $1100 to create piecemeal. Given how everyone in this country feels entitled to a nepotist deal, I'd say it'll hammer at around $420. Then again, the guy made the '0.99 cent' mistake (You can start a Colnago Mexico in that shape at 0.99, but never a limited lust factor marque like Battaglin), so it could actually sell for $225-250, as though it were a Master Ironman.

That's what I say.

Danny

deaonerox

Thanks, Danny, I'm glad someone decided to break it down. It does help me out a bit. We'll see if tis worth it.

otterbuff

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...723498139.html

I think the men's bike looks nice. I am asking for more pics. What are your thoughts?

dannyg1 

Anytime. I neglected to account for an important detail that'll depress that bikes final price greatly: The seller has made it a 'Pick up only' auction. An extremely large mistake that could throw all of my estimates right out the window.

And it's in Canada. You really picked an exercise!

Danny

cb400bill

https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/bik/734888571.html

Raleigh Technium 460

cb400bill

https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/bik/734640916.html

Fuji Grand Tourer SE Frame

deaonerox

Do forgive me kind sir, but I don't see how Pick Up Only = Poor Estimates

Please indulge me.

Charles Wahl

Most people will take a "pickup only" auction at face value -- they won't even watch it. If you see something you like, it's always worth a shot to ask the seller if they'd ship, or at last resort, drop the bike off at a bike shop for packaging and shipping. I've done that, and while the shipping isn't cheap, the auction is generally cheaper than if it were a normal one with shipping to anywhere. This works better later on in the auction, if/when the seller realizes that there isn't much interest, and may be motivated to reconsider the "local only" choice.

The seller is just limiting the potential pool of bidders by doing this. In most cases, might as well just list on CraigsList for weeks at a time until someone bites at the price the seller has in mind.

dannyg1 

Thank you Chas. I'd like to add that 'PU only' auctions are the mark of someone who has absolutely no idea of how to properly pack a bike and so, experienced bidders know that not only will shipping be far higher than it should be, the frame will probably be damaged upon arrival (emphasis on 'forget the photos of that paintjob junior'). That alone costs the seller probably 60% of available bidders and leaves whoever that might still be interested shopping for pricing defined best as 'giveaway' only.

Add Canada to that mix, with the good possibility of an added 'duty' charge and 'international' ship rates, and what would the most well-intentioned of us American's risk on this gamblers delight?

I'd say that the seller is running an auction with only 5-10% of the people interested actually ready to take any chance.

And that,(to the guy that isn't Chas), is why I wrote of the damaged appraisal. Sometimes you get through the minefield, but most of the time the minefield can make a bike won at $150 end up costing around $500 delivered and chewed mercilessly to boot.

I'd love to see other ideas and estimates of this auction. I think people will learn plenty from this particular offering.

Danny

Danny

SouthernYank

I know what I would be willing to pay for it....

deaonerox

Thanks once again, my friend. Good too know I can add something semi thought-provoking.