How about a three(four) speed thread????
#76
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From: Gloucester, England.
Bikes: Mercian, Viscount x2, Holdworth La Quelda, Gundle Trade Bike, Williams/Mercian Tourer, Itera,
[QUOTE=roseskunk;5559492]here's the one that got me started... a clean sports. she's got a brooks b-66 now and a green carradice bag.
Boy, that is a nice, clean machine!
Those mattress saddles look chunky, but aren't they comfortable?
The leather Brooks are better, but I've had enough of the originals to know that they are good for us ordinary people!
These machines look so good in American spec.
I really have a thing about the 'silly' full chain-case versions that were inflicted on UK buyers.
They make the bikes look heavy and totally change the appearance of them.
OK it's a matter of taste, but I reckon Raleigh just couldn't bring themselves to change.
Which is one reason they faded.
Put the two (chain-case and hockey-stick) together, and which looks best?
No doubt about it.
Boy, that is a nice, clean machine!
Those mattress saddles look chunky, but aren't they comfortable?
The leather Brooks are better, but I've had enough of the originals to know that they are good for us ordinary people!
These machines look so good in American spec.
I really have a thing about the 'silly' full chain-case versions that were inflicted on UK buyers.
They make the bikes look heavy and totally change the appearance of them.
OK it's a matter of taste, but I reckon Raleigh just couldn't bring themselves to change.
Which is one reason they faded.
Put the two (chain-case and hockey-stick) together, and which looks best?
No doubt about it.
#77
Sister Annie
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From: Hauraki Plains District, New Zealand
Bikes: Retro Hercules adult tricycle, 1953 Hercules ladies roadster, 1950s Wearwell fixed gear 'Club' pathracer, 1980s Malvern Star 'Super Star', 1980s Healing GTX-105 Arabesque, 1980's Morrison Concorde & etc & etc.......
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I must admit that I prefer my English 'Sports' bicycles to have hockey-stick chaincases; - especially when they have an interesting chainwheel. However on my heavy roadsters it's the full chaincase that gets my vote. My roadsters are far more likely to get ridden in bad weather than my lightweights or mediumweight bikes and I much appreciate the extra protection a full chaincase gives both to me and the chains and sprockets on my bikes.
My 1942 Dutch 'Holfa' by 'Veeno'.

I totally agree about the mattress saddles by the way, - they are superbly comfortable. I've got quite a selection on my English bikes, 'Wrights featherbed', Terry 3 spring, Brooks, Middlemore....... I think I like the Terry the best
here's the one that got me started... a clean sports. she's got a brooks b-66 now and a green carradice bag.
Boy, that is a nice, clean machine!
Those mattress saddles look chunky, but aren't they comfortable?
The leather Brooks are better, but I've had enough of the originals to know that they are good for us ordinary people!
These machines look so good in American spec.
I really have a thing about the 'silly' full chain-case versions that were inflicted on UK buyers.
They make the bikes look heavy and totally change the appearance of them.
OK it's a matter of taste, but I reckon Raleigh just couldn't bring themselves to change.
Which is one reason they faded.
Put the two (chain-case and hockey-stick) together, and which looks best?
No doubt about it.
Boy, that is a nice, clean machine!
Those mattress saddles look chunky, but aren't they comfortable?
The leather Brooks are better, but I've had enough of the originals to know that they are good for us ordinary people!
These machines look so good in American spec.
I really have a thing about the 'silly' full chain-case versions that were inflicted on UK buyers.
They make the bikes look heavy and totally change the appearance of them.
OK it's a matter of taste, but I reckon Raleigh just couldn't bring themselves to change.
Which is one reason they faded.
Put the two (chain-case and hockey-stick) together, and which looks best?
No doubt about it.
My 1942 Dutch 'Holfa' by 'Veeno'.

I totally agree about the mattress saddles by the way, - they are superbly comfortable. I've got quite a selection on my English bikes, 'Wrights featherbed', Terry 3 spring, Brooks, Middlemore....... I think I like the Terry the best
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#78
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Bikes: Giant Excursion, Raleigh Sports, Raleigh R.S.W. Compact, Motobecane? and about 20 more! OMG
I think it is a matter of aesthetics...I agree with Sianlle I like the look of the full chain case on the "big" Roadsters. Eventually I will acquire one, for now I am happy with my Superbe and Sports Standard...and Compact RSW...and about another half dozen or so

Aaron


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Webshots is bailing out, if you find any of my posts with corrupt picture files and want to see them corrected please let me know. :(
ISO: A late 1980's Giant Iguana MTB frameset (or complete bike) 23" Red with yellow graphics.
"Cycling should be a way of life, not a hobby.
RIDE, YOU FOOL, RIDE!"_Nicodemus
"Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred
Which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?"_krazygluon
#79
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Bikes: 1972 Columbia Tourist Expert III, Columbia Roadster
Saw this today:



Can't say much about the quality of Rollfasts (maybe that's why they're so rare?) but you've got to love that chainwheel! - and check out those wild dropouts!

Girlfriend rides my old Columbia 3 speed.



Can't say much about the quality of Rollfasts (maybe that's why they're so rare?) but you've got to love that chainwheel! - and check out those wild dropouts!

Girlfriend rides my old Columbia 3 speed.
#81
wow! you guys and gals have some sweeeeeeet rides! long live three-speeds! i just got my tourist back today from the not-too-local bike shop. new spokes, cleaned up, it's nice. i'll post pics asap. i thought my tourist had a kickstand when i took it in and now doesn't. they did have kickstands, yes? what type were they? i can't have a bike without a kickstand or a bag... thanks, you guys have some great bikes. btw- i prefer the hard brooks over the soft cushion ones. my tourist has the original brooks on her, but i'm considering getting a b-135. anyone else have one of those? they might be overkill, but it's a tourist for god sake...
#83
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Viscount
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From: Gloucester, England.
Bikes: Mercian, Viscount x2, Holdworth La Quelda, Gundle Trade Bike, Williams/Mercian Tourer, Itera,
#85
Sister Annie
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From: Hauraki Plains District, New Zealand
Bikes: Retro Hercules adult tricycle, 1953 Hercules ladies roadster, 1950s Wearwell fixed gear 'Club' pathracer, 1980s Malvern Star 'Super Star', 1980s Healing GTX-105 Arabesque, 1980's Morrison Concorde & etc & etc.......
My word that's a lovely bike. I've never seen a Raleigh Sports painted cream before.
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#86
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From: Boston, MA
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Someone in this thread mentioned Sturmey-Archer hubs.
Does this sound like what you meant?
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/466113857.html
Cuz $5 sounds sort of cheap...
I emailed the fella anyway to see, since i'll be living in Boston starting Tuesday.
Does this sound like what you meant?
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/466113857.html
Cuz $5 sounds sort of cheap...
I emailed the fella anyway to see, since i'll be living in Boston starting Tuesday.
#87
Someone in this thread mentioned Sturmey-Archer hubs.
Does this sound like what you meant?
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/466113857.html
Cuz $5 sounds sort of cheap...
I emailed the fella anyway to see, since i'll be living in Boston starting Tuesday.
Does this sound like what you meant?
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/466113857.html
Cuz $5 sounds sort of cheap...
I emailed the fella anyway to see, since i'll be living in Boston starting Tuesday.
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From: Soviet of Oregon or Pensacola FL
Bikes: Still have a few left!
Here are some pictures of vintage 3spd & 4spd bikes from a display in October 2005 in "The Bike Stand" shop, Olympia, Washington. There were some beautiful bicycles, many built by Bill Stevenson & Corey Thompson & also some vintage bikes. A few of these are always on display. I'm sorry for the poor quality of some shots. The 1967 Hetchins had a SA 3speed and the 1937 Claud Butler had a 4 cog freewheel with a brass shifter mounted on the downtube. Don't know the year of the Phillips 3speed but would guess from the 60s. The Carlton is a 10 speed, but very vintage. Don
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#90
here's my new old tourist!



this was a 70 dollar craigslist find, all did was add new spokes...she's not done yet- i'm going to get a b135 and swap the seat (if you can't put a b135 on a tourist, just where does it belong?!) and add a brooks saddle bag...anyone know the seat stem diameter? i need a tad more length... she's a great ride, kind of like being on a tractor i guess but very smooth... th three-speed isn't shifting, i think it's an issue with the shifter not the hub. anyway, here she is...



this was a 70 dollar craigslist find, all did was add new spokes...she's not done yet- i'm going to get a b135 and swap the seat (if you can't put a b135 on a tourist, just where does it belong?!) and add a brooks saddle bag...anyone know the seat stem diameter? i need a tad more length... she's a great ride, kind of like being on a tractor i guess but very smooth... th three-speed isn't shifting, i think it's an issue with the shifter not the hub. anyway, here she is...
#92
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What a nice machine roseskunk!
Understated elegance.
Didn't the 28 inch wheel versions come with this pattern mudguards?
I'm sure I've read that somewhere on the forum.
Understated elegance.
Didn't the 28 inch wheel versions come with this pattern mudguards?
I'm sure I've read that somewhere on the forum.
#93
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Sianelle, you keep popping up these never before seen machines which are soooo interesting.
How about showing us all some you are keeping unseen?
The Dutch loop-frame is a case in point.
I love the loop-framed cycles.
They just look right.
How about showing us all some you are keeping unseen?
The Dutch loop-frame is a case in point.
I love the loop-framed cycles.
They just look right.
#94
the hub says '72 which is really hard to believe isn't it? i mean they made internationals and pros then too, yes? hell, i have an international from that era and it weighs about one third what the tourist does. just wait until i get that b135 and brooks saddle bag on her... and sorry, but i really don't know much about the fen...mudguards. all i know is that they have a beautiful lip and a delightful little pinstripe on them. btw- there's a really clean example of one on the 'bay right now... not mine but i wish it was...
#95
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Sweet!
Fenders look just like those on my '81 DL-1. Seat post is 1"
$70? Where? In some areas they aren't appreciated, but in Minneapolis it would fetch $300+ on CL. I had no trouble getting $300 for my '76, two years ago, and yours looks nicer. (At least in the photos)
Looks like it has the stock, knee busting 18t cog on the back. Everyone I know is running a 22t.
Those Schwinn grips are a big improvement over the stock Dares. My '81 has only about 50 miles on it, so I feel I should keep it totally original. (except for the rear cog) Otherwise I'd have the same grips.
About that B-135;
They're kinda heavy. You wouldn't want to spoil the light, airy feel of the bike
Fenders look just like those on my '81 DL-1. Seat post is 1"
$70? Where? In some areas they aren't appreciated, but in Minneapolis it would fetch $300+ on CL. I had no trouble getting $300 for my '76, two years ago, and yours looks nicer. (At least in the photos)
Looks like it has the stock, knee busting 18t cog on the back. Everyone I know is running a 22t.
Those Schwinn grips are a big improvement over the stock Dares. My '81 has only about 50 miles on it, so I feel I should keep it totally original. (except for the rear cog) Otherwise I'd have the same grips.
About that B-135;
They're kinda heavy. You wouldn't want to spoil the light, airy feel of the bike
#96
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From: Sheffield England
Bikes: AM Moulton. Brompton S-type.
I'm in the process of acquiring this tandem. Any help on the maker would be much appreciated. It has a 1936 K type hub. Frame number 67117. It was repainted in the sixties and has been dry stored ever since.


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#97
hpva guy, thanks. i got it in dallas. i just moved down here was looking for one and there she was. it had been on craigslist for a while the guy had to come down in price. i've very happy that i got her.
yeah the 135 looks a bit heavy but with my big butt i doubt it'll matter much and i thought if ever i could use one of those crazy saddles, this would be the time... besides, this won't be my first choice for a century ride...
yeah the 135 looks a bit heavy but with my big butt i doubt it'll matter much and i thought if ever i could use one of those crazy saddles, this would be the time... besides, this won't be my first choice for a century ride...
#98
Sister Annie
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From: Hauraki Plains District, New Zealand
Bikes: Retro Hercules adult tricycle, 1953 Hercules ladies roadster, 1950s Wearwell fixed gear 'Club' pathracer, 1980s Malvern Star 'Super Star', 1980s Healing GTX-105 Arabesque, 1980's Morrison Concorde & etc & etc.......

The Dutch 'Holfa' was owned by the same family from new and when a younger member of that family immigrated here to NZ they brought the old bicycle with them. His wife was a teacher in Holland and she told me how she used to ride this bicycle 32 kms everyday to and from the school where she was teaching. The bike is well worn, but apart from the wheel rims it's very sound. Being stored in a fertilizer shed in its retirement hasn't done the wheels a lot of good unfortunately, but to my surprise the Dutch tyres still hold air.
Love your bike roseskunk. Looks a lot like this one of mine from the 70s

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OMNIPOTENS aeterne Deus, qui nos secundum imaginem Tuam plasmasti, et omnia bona, vera, pulchra, praesertim in divina persona Unigeniti Filii Tui Domini nostri Iesu Christi, quaerere iussisti, praesta quaesumus ut, per intercessionem Sancti Isidori, Episcopi et Doctoris, in peregrinationibus per interrete factis et manus oculosque ad quae Tibi sunt placita intendamus et omnes quos convenimus cum caritate ac patientia accipiamus. Per Christum Dominum nostrum. Amen.
#100
thanks sianelle- you have some terrific rides too. that dutch 'holfa' is amazing!
someday i'd love to get to nz to take a look around.
i guess it's good that i don't have a garage right now, they seen to be doing fine procreating in my living room! there's a sprite for 50 bucks that i've got a line on right now...
someday i'd love to get to nz to take a look around.
i guess it's good that i don't have a garage right now, they seen to be doing fine procreating in my living room! there's a sprite for 50 bucks that i've got a line on right now...






