LOOP7531 scamming bike e-bay
11-10-07, 02:24 PM
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11-10-07, 02:24 PM
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11-10-07, 02:28 PM
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hmmmm didnt think about that. Sent a message to the winning bidder though just as an FYI.
11-10-07, 02:35 PM
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It is some sort of loopback account. When you send a message to the buyer, it just kicks your message back to your email account.
11-10-07, 02:42 PM
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11-10-07, 03:33 PM
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Ebay sent me this:
Dear SingleSpeeDemon,
The listing in which you were a bidding participant:
110190438930 - diamant orignal brand road bicycle
has been ended by eBay. Since the listing was ended by eBay, for the transaction itself is null and void.
1st Choice - We ended the listing due to bidding activity that took place without the authorization of the owner of one of the accounts that bid on the listing. We have ended the listing to maintain the integrity of the eBay site and the bidder?s account that was accessed. We are working to restore the bidding account to its rightful owner, and we are working with the account owner to prevent any additional unauthorized activity.
or
2nd Choice - Due to privacy concerns, we cannot disclose the exact reason the listing itself was ended. However, we can inform you that we did not take any action on the seller's account for this listing.
ADD to either choice: As a result, we have informed the seller that they may relist their item if they wish to do so. Please feel free to re-bid on this item under the new item number. To locate the new item number, please check the sellers list of items at:
https://pages.ebay.com/search/items/search_seller.html
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you, and we thank you for being a part of the eBay trading community.
Regards,
Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)
Dear SingleSpeeDemon,
The listing in which you were a bidding participant:
110190438930 - diamant orignal brand road bicycle
has been ended by eBay. Since the listing was ended by eBay, for the transaction itself is null and void.
1st Choice - We ended the listing due to bidding activity that took place without the authorization of the owner of one of the accounts that bid on the listing. We have ended the listing to maintain the integrity of the eBay site and the bidder?s account that was accessed. We are working to restore the bidding account to its rightful owner, and we are working with the account owner to prevent any additional unauthorized activity.
or
2nd Choice - Due to privacy concerns, we cannot disclose the exact reason the listing itself was ended. However, we can inform you that we did not take any action on the seller's account for this listing.
ADD to either choice: As a result, we have informed the seller that they may relist their item if they wish to do so. Please feel free to re-bid on this item under the new item number. To locate the new item number, please check the sellers list of items at:
https://pages.ebay.com/search/items/search_seller.html
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you, and we thank you for being a part of the eBay trading community.
Regards,
Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)
11-10-07, 03:35 PM
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^^^ So the winning bidder had a parter working on his behalf to place a winning bid and then just ast as if his account was hijacked. What a jerk.
11-10-07, 03:41 PM
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aawww, whom am I kidding, eBay will NEVER notice.
11-10-07, 04:00 PM
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This is a glaring example of what eBay is today. No shame...
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11-10-07, 04:44 PM
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Okay, I am not sure why you are blaming Ebay. They got a complaint saying the seller doesn't own the bike. They contact the seller and he says "yes I do". What real proof do we have that he doesn't, other than some pictures of the bike on another website?
Then someone hacks into someone's account, hopefully none of us, and makes a sham bid. We all know that happened. What else could they do. I suggest nobody bid on it next time. Then the guy will be even more PO'd.
Then someone hacks into someone's account, hopefully none of us, and makes a sham bid. We all know that happened. What else could they do. I suggest nobody bid on it next time. Then the guy will be even more PO'd.
11-10-07, 05:09 PM
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Take care,
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11-10-07, 05:12 PM
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If eBay were to contact the owners of the websites, they would know that this person is stealing photos, and in some cases, exact descriptions from the websites.
Approximate population of Arock OR is about 16 people. They have a one-room schoolhouse there, K-8th grade.
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11-10-07, 05:15 PM
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Totally believable to me.
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11-10-07, 06:54 PM
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Hey folks,
Just got in from an M/C party and caught up on what's been going on. I'd been following this at work today, which ended about 40 minutes before the auction ended.
As someone who's been doing nothing more than monitoring what's been going on - nice work. Yeah, you can't always figure out ahead of time, and it won't always end the way you hope it will, but just because you took the time to stop someone from getting ripped off is a pat on the back unto itself.
This is something we (as a group) have to watch for in the future. And be especially careful as to who we're going after. I'd rather see some innocent get ripped off than have someone legitimate who's trying to sell a bike or parts get shut down unfairly.
And don't ever expect eBay to overly worry about the buyer. After all, they make THEIR money off the seller. That term 'caveat empetor' - that's been around for at least 2500 years now, hasn't it? And for bloody good reason?
Just got in from an M/C party and caught up on what's been going on. I'd been following this at work today, which ended about 40 minutes before the auction ended.
As someone who's been doing nothing more than monitoring what's been going on - nice work. Yeah, you can't always figure out ahead of time, and it won't always end the way you hope it will, but just because you took the time to stop someone from getting ripped off is a pat on the back unto itself.
This is something we (as a group) have to watch for in the future. And be especially careful as to who we're going after. I'd rather see some innocent get ripped off than have someone legitimate who's trying to sell a bike or parts get shut down unfairly.
And don't ever expect eBay to overly worry about the buyer. After all, they make THEIR money off the seller. That term 'caveat empetor' - that's been around for at least 2500 years now, hasn't it? And for bloody good reason?
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11-10-07, 07:59 PM
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...and? So what?
Let's hear an elaboration - no sense in just saying "I like THIS" without a little background as to why you feel that way.
Just trying to make sure that the art of making a case for one's viewpoints isn't lost in mindless statements.
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Let's hear an elaboration - no sense in just saying "I like THIS" without a little background as to why you feel that way.
Just trying to make sure that the art of making a case for one's viewpoints isn't lost in mindless statements.
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11-10-07, 08:38 PM
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Lsst nite when looking over eBay there were 3 or 4 similar auctions all with new sellers with 0 feedback. Seems to be a lot of fraud in bikes on eBay this week.
11-10-07, 09:37 PM
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...and? So what?
Let's hear an elaboration - no sense in just saying "I like THIS" without a little background as to why you feel that way.
Just trying to make sure that the art of making a case for one's viewpoints isn't lost in mindless statements.
-Kurt "Spending Too Much Time Re-Stating What His English Professor Tells Him" K.
Let's hear an elaboration - no sense in just saying "I like THIS" without a little background as to why you feel that way.
Just trying to make sure that the art of making a case for one's viewpoints isn't lost in mindless statements.
-Kurt "Spending Too Much Time Re-Stating What His English Professor Tells Him" K.
Thank you for taking a stand about the importance of making a case. I was going to, too, but I am studying and my brain is fried. It's damn late here.
11-10-07, 09:50 PM
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Elaboration: a seller that has a sale go bad has a smaller loss than a buyer that gets scammed. The difference is a multiple, usually an order of magnitude or two.
Thank you for taking a stand about the importance of making a case. I was going to, too, but I am studying and my brain is fried. It's damn late here.
Thank you for taking a stand about the importance of making a case. I was going to, too, but I am studying and my brain is fried. It's damn late here.
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11-11-07, 10:34 AM
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This has been a masterful plot, but do you all really think that this rip-off artist will dutifully pay up his eBay fees from a scam bid? And that his registered eBay name and address are legit? I know of a bridge in Brooklyn that's surely for sale!
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11-11-07, 01:11 PM
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11-12-07, 05:58 PM
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I think it's a stolen account...the guy in Argentina seems to have something to do with music/clubbing, not bicycles.
Update: the winning bidder, loki7records, is supposedly a person named Alex Shulgin/aka Toxic-Toy/aka Dr. Shulgin. He's reputed to be a professional DJ in Buenos Aires.
For those of you not into the drug scene, Alex Shulgin is the inventor of Ecstasy.
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Update: the winning bidder, loki7records, is supposedly a person named Alex Shulgin/aka Toxic-Toy/aka Dr. Shulgin. He's reputed to be a professional DJ in Buenos Aires.
For those of you not into the drug scene, Alex Shulgin is the inventor of Ecstasy.
East Hill