Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos
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Thanks man! I actually just took it for the first test ride today and it was very very smooth. The carbon seatpost on top of that frame makes the road disappear. I did 20 miles on my new carbon bike and then came home and switched and did 20 miles on the Ironman and it was like being on rails compared my carbon
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Wonderful saddle, just killer.
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Did anyone else have the dilemma of whether to go 10 or 11-speed? Prices on the new Shimano 105 5800 11-speed groupset are REALLY good, as little as $10-20 more expensive than a new10-speed 5700 series. However, then I would have to spring for an 11-speed wheelset. I was initially going to get the 105 to Open Pro on Velomine, but they only have them in 5700 10-speed.
And does anyone have any suggestions for a modern crankset that uses an external BB but has a more C&V style? The new shimano cranks are nice, but I think look a bit out of place on a classic frame.
And does anyone have any suggestions for a modern crankset that uses an external BB but has a more C&V style? The new shimano cranks are nice, but I think look a bit out of place on a classic frame.
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Did anyone else have the dilemma of whether to go 10 or 11-speed? Prices on the new Shimano 105 5800 11-speed groupset are REALLY good, as little as $10-20 more expensive than a new10-speed 5700 series. However, then I would have to spring for an 11-speed wheelset. I was initially going to get the 105 to Open Pro on Velomine, but they only have them in 5700 10-speed.
And does anyone have any suggestions for a modern crankset that uses an external BB but has a more C&V style? The new shimano cranks are nice, but I think look a bit out of place on a classic frame.
And does anyone have any suggestions for a modern crankset that uses an external BB but has a more C&V style? The new shimano cranks are nice, but I think look a bit out of place on a classic frame.
As far as external bb cranks that look OK, I have found the silver FSA cranks look reasonable on a C&V bike (if you lose the FSA decals and polish the arms). The FSA cranks can use older style shimano external bearings, so one of the FSA question marks is easily eliminated.
You could also take a silver SRAM rival crank and use one of the 11 speed inner "conversion" rings on it, and that should work also.
I personally wouldn't mount a Power Torque Athena crank on my bike, as getting it off the bike requires all sorts of unreasonable pullers, etc (a really poor design from a maintenance perspective as compared to a simple 2 piece crank). None of the current Campy Ultra Torque models are available in anything but black, and I'm more of a we'll see attitude to the one I have now in terms of the longevity of the hirth joint. Given the pricing of Athena groups, the PT crank, and 105's price point, I think they need to revamp either the pricing or the crank to make this group make sense. The triple group pricing is completely unreasonable. To me Athena is 105 level, and Chorus is Ultegra level. Athena doubles are priced along with Ultegra, and Athena triples are in DA closeout pricing territory.
To me, the silver 105 5800 crankset looks ok, and is sort of growing on me as far as looking ok on a vintage bike. Not the same look as something from VO or Sugino, but anything silver on a bike these days is rare.
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I recently upgraded the group on my Trek Domane with SRAM Rival. I had to find a crank set though as it didn't come with one. I found a SRAM Apex crank that has chrome chain rings and looks very classy. If my Schwinn 754 would take 110 chain rings, I'd put them on it in a sec and find different ones for the Trek.
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In general triple pricing (and finding components) is a real bummer. I keep hoping there's going to be a general switch back to them at some point, but I'm not hopeful.
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Here's some help to get started:
Shimano (Which you stated dislike for)
Campagnolo
Sram
FSA
...
Your best bet for a classic look is most obviously going to be Campagnolo, which you probably had your eye on anyway but found the price frustrating.
ribble.co.uk - This domain name is available to lease or buy now pick up a set of SILVER Veloce cranks or similar, problem solved. Otherwise get a classic looking square tapered crank such as Stronglight... maybe FSA offer something too.
Oh yeah, have fun with the 14mm hex bolt to hold the Campagnolo crank on, it's no common size Allen key!
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Although STI's did exist in 1992 Grant Petersen elected to use bar end shift levers on Bridgestone's RB-1 that year so I think this bike qualifies. Currently running Shimano 105 levers(I think they're better looking than the 600 STI's from that era) 8 speed and Ultegra dual pivot calipers. I also swapped the stem and bars. Wheels feature beautiful Shimano Santé hubs. I still have all the original components stashed away in case I ever want to go back to bone stock.
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Although STI's did exist in 1992 Grant Petersen elected to use bar end shift levers on Bridgestone's RB-1 that year so I think this bike qualifies. Currently running Shimano 105 (I think it,s better looking than the 600 stuff from that era) 8 speed and Ultegra dual pivot calipers. I also swapped the stem and bars. Wheels feature beautiful Shimano Santé hubs. I still have all the original components stashed away in case I ever want to go back to bone stock.
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Thanks everyone. Its still not quite finished. A Nitto S83 seatpost and a Selle Italia Flite 1990 will cap it off.
(And a proper photo)
(And a proper photo)
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Too much? I might actually be leaning in the direction of "it's too much" myself. However, I do like the attention I get while riding it, as well as the ride Upgraded from a Kinlin/Record wheelset and 7800 dt-shifters to 7800 STI and H+Son/Superlight courtesy of Bike Hub Store. Really enjoying STI so far. It was a bit frustrating at first to tune everything and experiment with spacers (since there seemed to be competing thoughts on the internet on how many you need and where to put them), but the time and effort has paid off. The ease of shifting and increase in number of cogs has made the riding experience very enjoyable. I won't say that it's better than friction, but I notice myself shifting more often and on sections that I would have previously just gritted my teeth and put in more effort. Definitely recommend.
PS, for anyone wondering: I didn't notice any increase in drivetrain sound from replacing the plastic jockey wheels with sealed bearing aluminum ones. I had read about this phenomenon many times in other threads all over the internet--but my rear derailleur is just as quiet as it was before.
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Too much? I might actually be leaning in the direction of "it's too much" myself. However, I do like the attention I get while riding it, as well as the ride Upgraded from a Kinlin/Record wheelset and 7800 dt-shifters to 7800 STI and H+Son/Superlight courtesy of Bike Hub Store. Really enjoying STI so far. It was a bit frustrating at first to tune everything and experiment with spacers (since there seemed to be competing thoughts on the internet on how many you need and where to put them), but the time and effort has paid off. The ease of shifting and increase in number of cogs has made the riding experience very enjoyable. I won't say that it's better than friction, but I notice myself shifting more often and on sections that I would have previously just gritted my teeth and put in more effort. Definitely recommend.
PS, for anyone wondering: I didn't notice any increase in drivetrain sound from replacing the plastic jockey wheels with sealed bearing aluminum ones. I had read about this phenomenon many times in other threads all over the internet--but my rear derailleur is just as quiet as it was before.
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The seat did. I usually mock up a bike in BikeCAD first to see how the colors will play out. In its original configuration, the rims were black and so were the tires, but during the upgrade I decided I needed to go for maximum ostentation. At some point I will return the bike to a more conservative color scheme.