The "Before And After" Thread
#2451
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From: Seattle WA
Bikes: 2009 Handsome Devil, 1987 Trek 520 Cirrus, 1978 Motobecane Grand Touring, 1987 Nishiki Cresta GT, 1989 Specialized Allez Former bikes; 1986 Miyata Trail Runner, 1979 Miyata 912, 2011 VO Rando, 1999 Cannondale R800, 1986 Schwinn Passage
[MENTION=177874]stingray66[/MENTION] what can brown do for you? Nice Varsity City bike conversion
#2452
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Joined: Aug 2007
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From: California
Bikes: '96 Moots VaMoots, Bertoni MAX, Eddy Merckx Grand Prix Team USA, ‘94 Merlin
BEFORE
1999 Marinoni saved-from-the-recycling-bin (last Tuesday) due to large top tube dent. Originally a Dura-Ace bike. Columbus MAX tubing (with EL unicrown fork). Dirty, sad, dented, they asked if I wanted to have it and after getting over being asked if one wants a Marinoni, I said of course! Used a pair of busted inner tubes to secure fork to frame and frameset to myself as I hung it over my shoulders for the long trek home. This was her state when I got back to the Bat Cave:


And this is her after it was all said and done a few days later. Fantastic and beautiful bike!



1999 Marinoni saved-from-the-recycling-bin (last Tuesday) due to large top tube dent. Originally a Dura-Ace bike. Columbus MAX tubing (with EL unicrown fork). Dirty, sad, dented, they asked if I wanted to have it and after getting over being asked if one wants a Marinoni, I said of course! Used a pair of busted inner tubes to secure fork to frame and frameset to myself as I hung it over my shoulders for the long trek home. This was her state when I got back to the Bat Cave:


And this is her after it was all said and done a few days later. Fantastic and beautiful bike!



#2453
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Joined: Aug 2007
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From: California
Bikes: '96 Moots VaMoots, Bertoni MAX, Eddy Merckx Grand Prix Team USA, ‘94 Merlin
A friend needed help getting a bike ready for sale. It came to me like this
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The Frame as it came to me by Ryan Surface, on Flickr[/IMG]
Finished the work to get it presentable today
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IMG_1659 by Ryan Surface, on Flickr[/IMG]
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The Frame as it came to me by Ryan Surface, on Flickr[/IMG]Finished the work to get it presentable today
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IMG_1659 by Ryan Surface, on Flickr[/IMG]
#2454
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Joined: May 2011
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From: Seattle WA
Bikes: 2009 Handsome Devil, 1987 Trek 520 Cirrus, 1978 Motobecane Grand Touring, 1987 Nishiki Cresta GT, 1989 Specialized Allez Former bikes; 1986 Miyata Trail Runner, 1979 Miyata 912, 2011 VO Rando, 1999 Cannondale R800, 1986 Schwinn Passage
Actually I have a thread over in appraisals going -it probably won't go on sale till next week as I will be out of town starting tomorrow.
I am hoping to sell it local (Seattle) but you never know. Its 21.5" c-t-c for both top tube and seat tube btw which appears to work out to 54.6 cm.
More pictures here
I am hoping to sell it local (Seattle) but you never know. Its 21.5" c-t-c for both top tube and seat tube btw which appears to work out to 54.6 cm.
More pictures here
#2455
Master Parts Rearranger

Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 4,842
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From: Portlandia's Kuiper Belt, OR
Bikes: 1987 Woodrup Competition - 2025 Trek Checkpoint SL 6 Gen 3 - 1987 Lotus Legend - 2024 Trek Emonda ALR Rim Brake - 1980 Trek 510 - 1988 Cannondale SR500 - 1985 Trek 670 - 1982 Trek 730
As far as the origin of the dent, it appears that a metal object with an edge (roughly 90° or sharper) either fell on it or the Marinoni fell on the metal object. Past that, who knows. A big bummer either way, but given that the damage is only cosmetic, I am overjoyed that it came my way. I'm running 180mm cranks on it (I'm 6'5") as I had them lying around, and man can we lay down some power between those and the beefy frame.
#2456
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Joined: Jun 2009
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From: Connecticut
Bikes: 2008 Kestrel Talon, 1993 Trek Composite 2100 Pro, 2003 Giant TCR Elite 1, 2006 Giant TCR C2, 1988 Raleigh Technium 400
#2457
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Bikes: Mongoose Crossway, Bianchi Grizzly, Cannondale F700,
#2459
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Bikes: 2010 Trek Madone 6.5, 2009 Trek 8000, 2007 Gary Fisher Tassajara, 1984 Trek 560, 1999 Trek 2500
After
Really didn't need much, very sound mechanically as far as I can tell. The bike came with Ultegra group- I think the original came with Dura Ace so either this was bought as a cheaper version or someone changed everything from the original?
Anyway what it mostly needed was better photos.
Wheels on original were Rolf according to pamphlet, this came with Spinergy wheels.
Anyway what it mostly needed was better photos.
Wheels on original were Rolf according to pamphlet, this came with Spinergy wheels.
#2460
Old Boy


Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 2,127
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From: Minnesota
Bikes: Mostly 1st-generation, top-of-the-line, non-unicrown MTBs/ATBs: All 1984 models: Dawes Ranger, Peugeot Canyon Express, Ross Mt. Whitney (chrome), Schwinn High Sierra, and a 1983 Trek 850.
1994 Barracuda A2B MTB
I was looking for a quality bike to run with studded tires this winter. My Peugeot Orient Express was OK in that role, but I was horrified by what the road salt was doing to it. And I hate pedaling indoors on a trainer - I feel like a hamster on a wheel.
So I found this on CL for $100:

1994 Barracuda A2B Mountain Bike
Barracuda was started by some guys in Colorado, and once they produced a few designs with some influence from TET Cycles and Yeti, eventually sold the company to Ross. I like the ovalized Tange tubeset they used, and the bike rides quite nicely. The website is here, if you want to find out more: Barracuda - Totally Driven!
I transferred the fenders from my Pug, made a few other tasty mods, and then tried to duplicate the CL ad shot as well as I could in my own front yard:

The slicks will stay on it until we get snow that stays on the roads and trails. Then I will mount the Schwalbe Winter Marathons on there and just keep on ridin'. I will spray the frame and rims with Boeshield T-9 before I expose the bike to road salt this time, and that should help keep corrosion at bay.
So I found this on CL for $100:

1994 Barracuda A2B Mountain Bike
Barracuda was started by some guys in Colorado, and once they produced a few designs with some influence from TET Cycles and Yeti, eventually sold the company to Ross. I like the ovalized Tange tubeset they used, and the bike rides quite nicely. The website is here, if you want to find out more: Barracuda - Totally Driven!
I transferred the fenders from my Pug, made a few other tasty mods, and then tried to duplicate the CL ad shot as well as I could in my own front yard:

The slicks will stay on it until we get snow that stays on the roads and trails. Then I will mount the Schwalbe Winter Marathons on there and just keep on ridin'. I will spray the frame and rims with Boeshield T-9 before I expose the bike to road salt this time, and that should help keep corrosion at bay.
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#2461
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From: Memphis, TN
Bikes: 1982 Trek 613, 1988 Panasonic MC 2500, 1981 Schwinn Super Sport, 1975 Raleigh Super Course MKII, 1985 Miyata 210
Finished this one a while back, but just now getting around to posting it 1981 Schwinn Super Sport 25.5":
Before:

Super Sport Before by Joshua Paschall, on Flickr
During:

Untitled by Joshua Paschall, on Flickr
After:

Super Sport After by Joshua Paschall, on Flickr

Super Sport After by Joshua Paschall, on Flickr

Super Sport After by Joshua Paschall, on Flickr
Before:

Super Sport Before by Joshua Paschall, on Flickr
During:

Untitled by Joshua Paschall, on Flickr
After:

Super Sport After by Joshua Paschall, on Flickr

Super Sport After by Joshua Paschall, on Flickr

Super Sport After by Joshua Paschall, on Flickr
#2462
tantum vehi


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From: Flathead Valley, MT
Bikes: More than I care to admit
That's a great save. Looks like you swapped out most if not all of the drivetrain. Was that an SR Custom on there originally? 86 BCD?
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Regular rides:
1977 Austro-Daimler Inter-10 (an experiment in valley-floor road riding)
1979 Trek 710 (first frame-up build)
1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport (daily driver)
1984 Peugeot Urban Express (funky rando-esque 26" gravel grinder)
2014 Salsa Mukluk (daily winter driver)
2015 Elephant NFE (Gugiefied gravel grinder)
2019 Electric Queen (first "real" MTB)
2024 Salsa Blackthorn (summer slayer of trails)
2024 Farley 9.6 (winter slayer of trails)
1977 Austro-Daimler Inter-10 (an experiment in valley-floor road riding)
1979 Trek 710 (first frame-up build)
1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport (daily driver)
1984 Peugeot Urban Express (funky rando-esque 26" gravel grinder)
2014 Salsa Mukluk (daily winter driver)
2015 Elephant NFE (Gugiefied gravel grinder)
2019 Electric Queen (first "real" MTB)
2024 Salsa Blackthorn (summer slayer of trails)
2024 Farley 9.6 (winter slayer of trails)
#2463
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Posts: 874
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From: Memphis, TN
Bikes: 1982 Trek 613, 1988 Panasonic MC 2500, 1981 Schwinn Super Sport, 1975 Raleigh Super Course MKII, 1985 Miyata 210
I have another in my wife's size, though it had to be blasted and painted.
#2465
tantum vehi


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AT's are just dead sexy, and totally standard BCD. They take a hella long spindle though. I just sort of stumbled into the SR Custom and Super Custom cranks (based on the Stronglight 99 cranks) and have been pleased with the super compact doubles they can make with a 28t inner ring. I used a 113mm UN-72 BB and it works perfectly with an 8s cassette.
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Regular rides:
1977 Austro-Daimler Inter-10 (an experiment in valley-floor road riding)
1979 Trek 710 (first frame-up build)
1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport (daily driver)
1984 Peugeot Urban Express (funky rando-esque 26" gravel grinder)
2014 Salsa Mukluk (daily winter driver)
2015 Elephant NFE (Gugiefied gravel grinder)
2019 Electric Queen (first "real" MTB)
2024 Salsa Blackthorn (summer slayer of trails)
2024 Farley 9.6 (winter slayer of trails)
1977 Austro-Daimler Inter-10 (an experiment in valley-floor road riding)
1979 Trek 710 (first frame-up build)
1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport (daily driver)
1984 Peugeot Urban Express (funky rando-esque 26" gravel grinder)
2014 Salsa Mukluk (daily winter driver)
2015 Elephant NFE (Gugiefied gravel grinder)
2019 Electric Queen (first "real" MTB)
2024 Salsa Blackthorn (summer slayer of trails)
2024 Farley 9.6 (winter slayer of trails)
#2466
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Joined: Jun 2013
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From: 700 Ft. above sea level.
Bikes: Not as many as there were awhile ago.
Gravel Grindin' Gas Pipe Goodness......
'82 World Sport I picked up a couple years back, been on my stationary trainer gathering dust until a few weeks ago. I robbed the wheels and tires off it for the '72 Varsity I rode in this year's Clunker Challenge. I got tired of seeing it laying in the garage so I threw it up on the stand yesterday and started pulling out the parts boxes. I "massaged" the stays and forks so I could squeeze in a set of 700 X 25 MTB wheels and 700 X 47 Continental Touring tires. I also replaced the crankset with an SR triple crankset and the derailleurs with Shimano Tourneys because I had a set I needed to use up. For Round 1 I kept the original centerpull brakes but they were less than spectacular so today I replaced them with a set of Shimano sidepulls with QR's off an 80's Shogun 500 and replaced the chrome steel handlebars with a set of aluminum Randonneur bars from another old Schwinn along with the brake levers and turkey levers from the Shogun. Now the brakes work great even using the turkey levers. I topped it off with my almost 20 year old Terry Liberator saddle, just need an aluminum seatpost, haven't measured it yet but a 26.2 was a no go. This thing handles great on gravel and everywhere else I've taken it so far. It's no lightweight BUT it is noticably lighter than the Varsity I've been dragging around the past few weeks! It's pretty low rent but I love riding it, this one's going to be around for a long time and I see it racking up a lot of miles.
As purchased......

As of this afternoon.....


This is what the gravel roads around here look like, this is one of the good ones......
As purchased......

As of this afternoon.....


This is what the gravel roads around here look like, this is one of the good ones......
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#2467
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From: Texas panhandle
Bikes: 1987 Schwinn Circuit, 1986 Schwinn Passage, 1987 Shogun Katana, 2018 Giant Anyroad Advanced, 2013 Karate Monkey
'82 World Sport I picked up a couple years back, been on my stationary trainer gathering dust until a few weeks ago. I robbed the wheels and tires off it for the '72 Varsity I rode in this year's Clunker Challenge. I got tired of seeing it laying in the garage so I threw it up on the stand yesterday and started pulling out the parts boxes. I "massaged" the stays and forks so I could squeeze in a set of 700 X 25 MTB wheels and 700 X 47 Continental Touring tires. I also replaced the crankset with an SR triple crankset and the derailleurs with Shimano Tourneys because I had a set I needed to use up. For Round 1 I kept the original centerpull brakes but they were less than spectacular so today I replaced them with a set of Shimano sidepulls with QR's off an 80's Shogun 500 and replaced the chrome steel handlebars with a set of aluminum Randonneur bars from another old Schwinn along with the brake levers and turkey levers from the Shogun. Now the brakes work great even using the turkey levers. I topped it off with my almost 20 year old Terry Liberator saddle, just need an aluminum seatpost, haven't measured it yet but a 26.2 was a no go. This thing handles great on gravel and everywhere else I've taken it so far. It's no lightweight BUT it is noticably lighter than the Varsity I've been dragging around the past few weeks! It's pretty low rent but I love riding it, this one's going to be around for a long time and I see it racking up a lot of miles.
As purchased......

As of this afternoon.....


This is what the gravel roads around here look like, this is one of the good ones......

As purchased......

As of this afternoon.....


This is what the gravel roads around here look like, this is one of the good ones......

What kind of massage work was needed to get the 47s to fit?
Try a 25.8 seatpost, I'll measure the one on my 84 WS tomorrow but I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
#2468
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I'm going to measure the post tomorrow, I was more concerned with getting some miles on it today.
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#2469
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Man, I'm surprised a flame war hasn't started over the black and red splash handlebar tape! It never fails to draw a comment when I ride my RB-1 with period appropriate red/white splash tape that matches the frame and logo colors.
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Regular rides:
1977 Austro-Daimler Inter-10 (an experiment in valley-floor road riding)
1979 Trek 710 (first frame-up build)
1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport (daily driver)
1984 Peugeot Urban Express (funky rando-esque 26" gravel grinder)
2014 Salsa Mukluk (daily winter driver)
2015 Elephant NFE (Gugiefied gravel grinder)
2019 Electric Queen (first "real" MTB)
2024 Salsa Blackthorn (summer slayer of trails)
2024 Farley 9.6 (winter slayer of trails)
1977 Austro-Daimler Inter-10 (an experiment in valley-floor road riding)
1979 Trek 710 (first frame-up build)
1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport (daily driver)
1984 Peugeot Urban Express (funky rando-esque 26" gravel grinder)
2014 Salsa Mukluk (daily winter driver)
2015 Elephant NFE (Gugiefied gravel grinder)
2019 Electric Queen (first "real" MTB)
2024 Salsa Blackthorn (summer slayer of trails)
2024 Farley 9.6 (winter slayer of trails)
#2471
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From: 700 Ft. above sea level.
Bikes: Not as many as there were awhile ago.
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#2472
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From: San Mateo,Ca.
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#2473
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From: Texas panhandle
Bikes: 1987 Schwinn Circuit, 1986 Schwinn Passage, 1987 Shogun Katana, 2018 Giant Anyroad Advanced, 2013 Karate Monkey
1984 Schwinn World Sport - before, as found

Going to use it for my short commute starting monday.
The decals were flaking off at the slightest touch so I took them off completely. Picked up an Origin8 80mm stem with 180mm quill to lift the bars up, a set of practically nos black Dia Compe G500 brakes, wide Nitto Noodles and Microshift brifters for the build. Ignore the wheels they are my go to set off a big box bike until I can get some new ones. I took it out for a longer shakedown run this morning and didn't have to make any adjustments. I really like the way this came together and how smooth the brifters are working. Not sure I like the Brooks for this build, going to try my SMP next time. And yes I know the taillight isn't very effective behind the bag, just haven't gotten around to moving it yet.



Going to use it for my short commute starting monday.
The decals were flaking off at the slightest touch so I took them off completely. Picked up an Origin8 80mm stem with 180mm quill to lift the bars up, a set of practically nos black Dia Compe G500 brakes, wide Nitto Noodles and Microshift brifters for the build. Ignore the wheels they are my go to set off a big box bike until I can get some new ones. I took it out for a longer shakedown run this morning and didn't have to make any adjustments. I really like the way this came together and how smooth the brifters are working. Not sure I like the Brooks for this build, going to try my SMP next time. And yes I know the taillight isn't very effective behind the bag, just haven't gotten around to moving it yet.


#2475
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From: Flathead Valley, MT
Bikes: More than I care to admit
Never apologize for splash tape: "Say it loud! I'm splash and I'm proud!"
__________________
Regular rides:
1977 Austro-Daimler Inter-10 (an experiment in valley-floor road riding)
1979 Trek 710 (first frame-up build)
1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport (daily driver)
1984 Peugeot Urban Express (funky rando-esque 26" gravel grinder)
2014 Salsa Mukluk (daily winter driver)
2015 Elephant NFE (Gugiefied gravel grinder)
2019 Electric Queen (first "real" MTB)
2024 Salsa Blackthorn (summer slayer of trails)
2024 Farley 9.6 (winter slayer of trails)
1977 Austro-Daimler Inter-10 (an experiment in valley-floor road riding)
1979 Trek 710 (first frame-up build)
1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport (daily driver)
1984 Peugeot Urban Express (funky rando-esque 26" gravel grinder)
2014 Salsa Mukluk (daily winter driver)
2015 Elephant NFE (Gugiefied gravel grinder)
2019 Electric Queen (first "real" MTB)
2024 Salsa Blackthorn (summer slayer of trails)
2024 Farley 9.6 (winter slayer of trails)







