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Old 07-19-17 | 09:43 PM
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[MENTION=177874]stingray66[/MENTION] what can brown do for you? Nice Varsity City bike conversion
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1999 Marinoni saved-from-the-recycling-bin (last Tuesday) due to large top tube dent. Originally a Dura-Ace bike. Columbus MAX tubing (with EL unicrown fork). Dirty, sad, dented, they asked if I wanted to have it and after getting over being asked if one wants a Marinoni, I said of course! Used a pair of busted inner tubes to secure fork to frame and frameset to myself as I hung it over my shoulders for the long trek home. This was her state when I got back to the Bat Cave:





And this is her after it was all said and done a few days later. Fantastic and beautiful bike!





Even with that horrendous dent, she still looks straight. I'm glad you were there to save that rare MAX Marinoni. I'm left wondering how the heck it got that way.
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Old 07-20-17 | 12:59 PM
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A friend needed help getting a bike ready for sale. It came to me like this

[IMG]The Frame as it came to me by Ryan Surface, on Flickr[/IMG]

Finished the work to get it presentable today
[IMG]IMG_1659 by Ryan Surface, on Flickr[/IMG]
Looks like my size. Did it sell?
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Old 07-20-17 | 02:16 PM
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Looks like my size. Did it sell?
Actually I have a thread over in appraisals going -it probably won't go on sale till next week as I will be out of town starting tomorrow.

I am hoping to sell it local (Seattle) but you never know. Its 21.5" c-t-c for both top tube and seat tube btw which appears to work out to 54.6 cm.

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Old 07-20-17 | 11:03 PM
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Even with that horrendous dent, she still looks straight. I'm glad you were there to save that rare MAX Marinoni. I'm left wondering how the heck it got that way.
I am so very glad as well that I was there to save it. I had sort of heard about MAX tubing before at some point, maybe, but seeing the MAX label on this one, I thought, you don't see that around very often at all. I look at the bikes that have that tubing (even MXL Merckx critters), and the prices of their frames, to say nothing of the rarity of the tubing, and the saving of this frame becomes that much more profound. It's not "just" a Marinoni, it's a MAX Marinoni.

As far as the origin of the dent, it appears that a metal object with an edge (roughly 90° or sharper) either fell on it or the Marinoni fell on the metal object. Past that, who knows. A big bummer either way, but given that the damage is only cosmetic, I am overjoyed that it came my way. I'm running 180mm cranks on it (I'm 6'5") as I had them lying around, and man can we lay down some power between those and the beefy frame.
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Old 07-31-17 | 07:01 AM
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Amazing how "proper" a vintage bike looks with modern components. Looks very sharp, [MENTION=166992]Viperplayer5220[/MENTION].
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Old 07-31-17 | 07:37 AM
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Curious, what model Brooks saddle? I had an old centurion saddle with that shape and I wound up using it on three different bikes.
I am a big green fan. Very clean, and lean looking.
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Old 08-16-17 | 04:12 PM
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Before- kind of sad looking ebay photos
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Old 08-16-17 | 04:21 PM
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Really didn't need much, very sound mechanically as far as I can tell. The bike came with Ultegra group- I think the original came with Dura Ace so either this was bought as a cheaper version or someone changed everything from the original?

Anyway what it mostly needed was better photos.

Wheels on original were Rolf according to pamphlet, this came with Spinergy wheels.
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Old 08-26-17 | 06:29 AM
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I was looking for a quality bike to run with studded tires this winter. My Peugeot Orient Express was OK in that role, but I was horrified by what the road salt was doing to it. And I hate pedaling indoors on a trainer - I feel like a hamster on a wheel.

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1994 Barracuda A2B Mountain Bike

Barracuda was started by some guys in Colorado, and once they produced a few designs with some influence from TET Cycles and Yeti, eventually sold the company to Ross. I like the ovalized Tange tubeset they used, and the bike rides quite nicely. The website is here, if you want to find out more: Barracuda - Totally Driven!

I transferred the fenders from my Pug, made a few other tasty mods, and then tried to duplicate the CL ad shot as well as I could in my own front yard:



The slicks will stay on it until we get snow that stays on the roads and trails. Then I will mount the Schwalbe Winter Marathons on there and just keep on ridin'. I will spray the frame and rims with Boeshield T-9 before I expose the bike to road salt this time, and that should help keep corrosion at bay.


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Old 08-26-17 | 08:15 AM
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Finished this one a while back, but just now getting around to posting it 1981 Schwinn Super Sport 25.5":

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Old 08-26-17 | 09:46 AM
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Finished this one a while back, but just now getting around to posting it 1981 Schwinn Super Sport 25.5":

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That's a great save. Looks like you swapped out most if not all of the drivetrain. Was that an SR Custom on there originally? 86 BCD?
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That's a great save. Looks like you swapped out most if not all of the drivetrain. Was that an SR Custom on there originally? 86 BCD?
It was SR Custom. I didn't even notice the odd BCD before. The BB was toast and I had the AT triple with matching BB on hand so that's what I went with, and I wanted indexing so I dropped the Cyclone.

I have another in my wife's size, though it had to be blasted and painted.
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Old 08-26-17 | 09:49 PM
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Awesome transformations guys!
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It was SR Custom. I didn't even notice the odd BCD before. The BB was toast and I had the AT triple with matching BB on hand so that's what I went with, and I wanted indexing so I dropped the Cyclone.
AT's are just dead sexy, and totally standard BCD. They take a hella long spindle though. I just sort of stumbled into the SR Custom and Super Custom cranks (based on the Stronglight 99 cranks) and have been pleased with the super compact doubles they can make with a 28t inner ring. I used a 113mm UN-72 BB and it works perfectly with an 8s cassette.
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Gravel Grindin' Gas Pipe Goodness......

'82 World Sport I picked up a couple years back, been on my stationary trainer gathering dust until a few weeks ago. I robbed the wheels and tires off it for the '72 Varsity I rode in this year's Clunker Challenge. I got tired of seeing it laying in the garage so I threw it up on the stand yesterday and started pulling out the parts boxes. I "massaged" the stays and forks so I could squeeze in a set of 700 X 25 MTB wheels and 700 X 47 Continental Touring tires. I also replaced the crankset with an SR triple crankset and the derailleurs with Shimano Tourneys because I had a set I needed to use up. For Round 1 I kept the original centerpull brakes but they were less than spectacular so today I replaced them with a set of Shimano sidepulls with QR's off an 80's Shogun 500 and replaced the chrome steel handlebars with a set of aluminum Randonneur bars from another old Schwinn along with the brake levers and turkey levers from the Shogun. Now the brakes work great even using the turkey levers. I topped it off with my almost 20 year old Terry Liberator saddle, just need an aluminum seatpost, haven't measured it yet but a 26.2 was a no go. This thing handles great on gravel and everywhere else I've taken it so far. It's no lightweight BUT it is noticably lighter than the Varsity I've been dragging around the past few weeks! It's pretty low rent but I love riding it, this one's going to be around for a long time and I see it racking up a lot of miles.

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This is what the gravel roads around here look like, this is one of the good ones......

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'82 World Sport I picked up a couple years back, been on my stationary trainer gathering dust until a few weeks ago. I robbed the wheels and tires off it for the '72 Varsity I rode in this year's Clunker Challenge. I got tired of seeing it laying in the garage so I threw it up on the stand yesterday and started pulling out the parts boxes. I "massaged" the stays and forks so I could squeeze in a set of 700 X 25 MTB wheels and 700 X 47 Continental Touring tires. I also replaced the crankset with an SR triple crankset and the derailleurs with Shimano Tourneys because I had a set I needed to use up. For Round 1 I kept the original centerpull brakes but they were less than spectacular so today I replaced them with a set of Shimano sidepulls with QR's off an 80's Shogun 500 and replaced the chrome steel handlebars with a set of aluminum Randonneur bars from another old Schwinn along with the brake levers and turkey levers from the Shogun. Now the brakes work great even using the turkey levers. I topped it off with my almost 20 year old Terry Liberator saddle, just need an aluminum seatpost, haven't measured it yet but a 26.2 was a no go. This thing handles great on gravel and everywhere else I've taken it so far. It's no lightweight BUT it is noticably lighter than the Varsity I've been dragging around the past few weeks! It's pretty low rent but I love riding it, this one's going to be around for a long time and I see it racking up a lot of miles.

As purchased......



As of this afternoon.....





This is what the gravel roads around here look like, this is one of the good ones......

Awesome results.
What kind of massage work was needed to get the 47s to fit?
Try a 25.8 seatpost, I'll measure the one on my 84 WS tomorrow but I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
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Awesome results.
What kind of massage work was needed to get the 47s to fit?
Try a 25.8 seatpost, I'll measure the one on my 84 WS tomorrow but I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
Thanks. It was pretty ugly, cold set the stays and fork for the wider hubs then "dimpled" the inside of the stays for tire clearance with a ballpeen and a 5/8" brass punch then touched up the paint. The frame was pretty rough to begin with so I wasn't exactly gentle with it. Besides, I have a nicer Schwinn to build now besides my '84 Tempo. I'm going to measure the post tomorrow, I was more concerned with getting some miles on it today.
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Man, I'm surprised a flame war hasn't started over the black and red splash handlebar tape! It never fails to draw a comment when I ride my RB-1 with period appropriate red/white splash tape that matches the frame and logo colors.
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Splash tape goes really good with the bags. No complaints here.
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Splash tape goes really good with the bags. No complaints here.
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Man, I'm surprised a flame war hasn't started over the black and red splash handlebar tape! It never fails to draw a comment when I ride my RB-1 with period appropriate red/white splash tape that matches the frame and logo colors.
While not normally my 1st choice I like splash tape on some bikes and it's great for hiding dirt, I would never flame anyone for using it and as you say it is period correct for many bikes. Mine is actually Hot Pink and Black LOL. Got it off Ebay really cheap last year for a flip bike. When it came and I saw it was pink, not red, I threw it in a box and bought different tape. This was another one of my "leftovers" builds so I was digging looking for some other tape I had and came across this. I figured riding on gravel it was going to get dirty quickly and this bike is no beauty queen, it's had a hard life, so I threw it on to use it up. Now that it's on there I'm kind of liking it. The Bushwacker frame bag had been purchased for one of my wife's bikes as part of a set but her frame was too small for it, the seat bag is a Jandd purchased 20 years ago for a bike long gone. For a hodge podge of parts it actually didn't turn out so bad and it is a lot of fun to ride, more often than not "mutts" are the best ones.
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1984 Schwinn World Sport - before, as found



Going to use it for my short commute starting monday.
The decals were flaking off at the slightest touch so I took them off completely. Picked up an Origin8 80mm stem with 180mm quill to lift the bars up, a set of practically nos black Dia Compe G500 brakes, wide Nitto Noodles and Microshift brifters for the build. Ignore the wheels they are my go to set off a big box bike until I can get some new ones. I took it out for a longer shakedown run this morning and didn't have to make any adjustments. I really like the way this came together and how smooth the brifters are working. Not sure I like the Brooks for this build, going to try my SMP next time. And yes I know the taillight isn't very effective behind the bag, just haven't gotten around to moving it yet.


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Another splash tape bike! In all honesty, i think it matches the splatter paint perfectly!

Never apologize for splash tape: "Say it loud! I'm splash and I'm proud!"
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