Cinelli track stem?
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Cinelli track stem?
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Nope
Time to come clean - I was sorting parts today, and came across this in my bin. I took some pics and tossed it on eBay, and I'm getting several emails of interest and requests to state a BIN. I deduced from all the interest that it might be worth more than the ~$10 I thought. So, I figured I'd ask here.
The truth is, I don't know what I have and probably should have asked first before tossing it up for grabs.
Time to come clean - I was sorting parts today, and came across this in my bin. I took some pics and tossed it on eBay, and I'm getting several emails of interest and requests to state a BIN. I deduced from all the interest that it might be worth more than the ~$10 I thought. So, I figured I'd ask here.
The truth is, I don't know what I have and probably should have asked first before tossing it up for grabs.
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I've seen NOS ones in that size go for $150 or less. That one looks a bit rough. Also, I would ask the seller to check it with a protractor, it might not be a track stem. I see the -17 degree road stems like that listed as track stems on ebay all the time.
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It's got the right angles for a track stem, but yea, I've also seen road stems listed as track. Actually, I just spent quite a bit more(165) for a steel track stem. I know I probably paid too much, but I need one for my resto, and it's damn near perfect.
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I'm pretty sure that this nasty drop would qualify it as a track stem. Was there a model number embossed, or is it older than that? You should point out the old Milano logo, just in case someone doesn't know what they are looking at.
I think you'll be pleasantly suprised...
I think you'll be pleasantly suprised...
#9
I'm pretty sure that this nasty drop would qualify it as a track stem. Was there a model number embossed, or is it older than that? You should point out the old Milano logo, just in case someone doesn't know what they are looking at.
I think you'll be pleasantly suprised...
I think you'll be pleasantly suprised...
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#11
wow it looks like it is potentially a #3 if so they are even more rare than a number 2, you should measure the angle to determine this and point it out. If it is a number #3 is is worth the $150 even missing the bolt, though I think it is a little pricey if it's a number #2.
I have a number #2 with matching bars.
I have a number #2 with matching bars.
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Well, if it was in great shape, I would consider it, as the one I bought may wind up being too short. I could also take the bolts off the one I bought for this. But I have the feeling that buying the correct bolts could also be expensive.
Did you up the BIN price with the new pics? Sorry, even though you may get that, there's a big difference between polishing and rechroming(if it indeed needs it).
Did you up the BIN price with the new pics? Sorry, even though you may get that, there's a big difference between polishing and rechroming(if it indeed needs it).
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Track stems are designed to reinforce the totally maschochistic tendencies of hard core trackies, squashing their perenium with stem angles of up to (beyond?) 30 degrees.
More aero, donchaknow?
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Looks lie a #2 drop to me. #1 drop was basically -17 degrees, yielding a level extension with typical head angle. The #1 was a universal model use for road and track use when road bars were also steel.
#3 was the most radical drop, I do not think this one is if memory serves, I lost the URL but a CR member put together a Cinelli visual chart that shows much.
Later the 2a alloy stem became the track stem.
Looks in reasonable shape, the lack of a steerer binder bolt will hurt its big dollar value, we will see if the Buy it NOW alternative is too seductive....
#3 was the most radical drop, I do not think this one is if memory serves, I lost the URL but a CR member put together a Cinelli visual chart that shows much.
Later the 2a alloy stem became the track stem.
Looks in reasonable shape, the lack of a steerer binder bolt will hurt its big dollar value, we will see if the Buy it NOW alternative is too seductive....
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Looks lie a #2 drop to me. #1 drop was basically -17 degrees, yielding a level extension with typical head angle. The #1 was a universal model use for road and track use when road bars were also steel.
#3 was the most radical drop, I do not think this one is if memory serves, I lost the URL but a CR member put together a Cinelli visual chart that shows much.
Later the 2a alloy stem became the track stem.
Looks in reasonable shape, the lack of a steerer binder bolt will hurt its big dollar value, we will see if the Buy it NOW alternative is too seductive....
#3 was the most radical drop, I do not think this one is if memory serves, I lost the URL but a CR member put together a Cinelli visual chart that shows much.
Later the 2a alloy stem became the track stem.
Looks in reasonable shape, the lack of a steerer binder bolt will hurt its big dollar value, we will see if the Buy it NOW alternative is too seductive....
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Last edited by bigbossman; 03-06-08 at 10:08 PM.
#18
Looks like it's about 58 degrees i.e. number 3.. ***CHA-CHING!***
I've never actually seen one before.
https://www.43bikes.com/cinelli-bars-stems.html
I've never actually seen one before.
https://www.43bikes.com/cinelli-bars-stems.html
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#20
I'm stunned.
Thanks, everyone, for helping me identify this stem. Your filling in the details for me was instrumental in selling it for such a high price. I wish I had a boxful.
BBQ tomorrow at my place, open bar. Don't be late.
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Looks like it's about 58 degrees i.e. number 3.. ***CHA-CHING!***
I've never actually seen one before.
https://www.43bikes.com/cinelli-bars-stems.html
I've never actually seen one before.
https://www.43bikes.com/cinelli-bars-stems.html
#23
Hey, thanks for posting the Cinelli reference, Yes, that is a #3 drop, better reset my memory. The shop for which I worked, had a big selection, we sold quite a few #3 drop stems, usually longer as the acute angle just does not place the bars out much. What I found very interesting back then (1975), Cinelli sent some combinations With the badge! Even back then some permutations were new OLD stock, only a few, grabbed up by the owner's son for the "cool" factor.
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