Oh for the love of a saddle cable.
04-21-08 | 08:08 PM
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Oh for the love of a saddle cable.
I've run into a bit of a problem in the mixte mockup. I need a saddle cable or bridge cable or whatever you call it for the rear centepull old school brake on the mixte. It needs to be long enough to engage both sides of the brake caliper from the front side of the seat tube. I looked at using some cables from a mountain bike cantilever center pull brake but they are waaaayyy too long I need something about twice the length of a normal Weinmann or dia compe centerpull cable. I even thought of making a little mold and cutting some brake cable to length and pouring the metal around them which it looks like how they are made but I think the ends are made from something a little tougher than lead. Does anyone out there have such a cable they would be willing to give up for a good cause?
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04-21-08 | 08:13 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't have a cable but a suggestion. I have been told that motorcycle shops can make cables. I did inquire at one some time ago and the guy said he could do it, but I never followed through. Couldn't hurt to ask....
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04-21-08 | 08:14 PM
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I've run into a bit of a problem in the mixte mockup. I need a saddle cable or bridge cable or whatever you call it for the rear centepull old school brake on the mixte. It needs to be long enough to engage both sides of the brake caliper from the front side of the seat tube. I looked at using some cables from a mountain bike cantilever center pull brake but they are waaaayyy too long I need something about twice the length of a normal Weinmann or dia compe centerpull cable. I even thought of making a little mold and cutting some brake cable to length and pouring the metal around them which it looks like how they are made but I think the ends are made from something a little tougher than lead. Does anyone out there have such a cable they would be willing to give up for a good cause?
Kelly D
04-21-08 | 08:19 PM
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Maybe this?
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/c...rake.html#ends
Or a cable detangler and a stop somewhere on the frame?
https://harriscyclery.net/page.cfm?Pa...ils&sku=CA9021
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/c...rake.html#ends
Or a cable detangler and a stop somewhere on the frame?
https://harriscyclery.net/page.cfm?Pa...ils&sku=CA9021
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04-21-08 | 08:59 PM
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I've seen mixte frames before and they had an extra long straddle or bridle cable or what ever the heck its called. I have the saddle and the adjusting barrel is no problem I just need the cable. I know someone on this forum has to have an idea on where to get one.
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04-21-08 | 09:03 PM
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Can you post a picture of where it goes? I have a 1982 Peugeot Mixte and I can't quite picture it.
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1st bike - 1962 Schwinn Varsity (bought new and wish I still had it, left it in Siagon, Viet Nam 1965)
1962 Schwinn Varsity (could be a twin of my first bike)
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1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer (bought new)
1982 Peugeot PH19 Mixte
1989 Novara Aspen
04-21-08 | 09:04 PM
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[QUOTE=kpug505;6560561]Maybe this?
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/c...rake.html#ends[QUOTE=kpug505;6560561]
+1 this is what you need. maybe a few sets.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/c...rake.html#ends[QUOTE=kpug505;6560561]
+1 this is what you need. maybe a few sets.
04-21-08 | 09:33 PM
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Its this cable see that its too short to clear the seat tube and it needs to by a lot
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04-21-08 | 09:57 PM
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Now I understand, my Peugeot uses side pull brakes, so that is not an issue. Could you change to side pulls?
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1st bike - 1962 Schwinn Varsity (bought new and wish I still had it, left it in Siagon, Viet Nam 1965)
1962 Schwinn Varsity (could be a twin of my first bike)
1969 Peugeot PX10E
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer (bought new)
1982 Peugeot PH19 Mixte
1989 Novara Aspen
1st bike - 1962 Schwinn Varsity (bought new and wish I still had it, left it in Siagon, Viet Nam 1965)
1962 Schwinn Varsity (could be a twin of my first bike)
1969 Peugeot PX10E
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer (bought new)
1982 Peugeot PH19 Mixte
1989 Novara Aspen
04-21-08 | 10:01 PM
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The caliper straddle cable is too short. They made a much longer variant for mixtes that curved around ahead of the seat tube - I have one from a Schwinn Super LeTour if you're interested. Rusty, but it'll do the job.
-Kurt
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04-21-08 | 10:03 PM
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I could but then I would have to buy another set of calipers and they need to pull from the bottom and I haven't seen them or can you reverse the cable clamp and the adjusting barrel so the pull is from the bottom? I really like the look of the centerpull and I know someone has the answer.
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04-21-08 | 10:05 PM
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I'll take it. I'll pm my address let me know the shipping I would be glad to pay it. See I knew someone would have it. C+V rules
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04-21-08 | 10:05 PM
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Found this: https://flickr.com/photos/42569983@N00/2324638764/
Sorry for jacking the pic whoever you are........
Anyways, that's what I would try to do.
Sorry for jacking the pic whoever you are........
Anyways, that's what I would try to do.
04-21-08 | 10:08 PM
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Thats it and I think I'm gettin one cudak 888.I read that thread and she or he had them made with those little cable knarps from Harris. Heck I can make them myself but I still want to get the from cudak888
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04-21-08 | 10:25 PM
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[QUOTE=g-funk;6560886][QUOTE=kpug505;6560561]Maybe this?
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/c...rake.html#ends Yep thats the silver tuna Marv. I can make those myself
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/c...rake.html#ends Yep thats the silver tuna Marv. I can make those myself
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04-21-08 | 10:31 PM
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And another option:
You can get a similar part here:
https://www.danscomp.com/489038.php?cat=PARTS#
It's for a "Giro" on a bmx bike.
You can get a similar part here:
https://www.danscomp.com/489038.php?cat=PARTS#
It's for a "Giro" on a bmx bike.
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04-21-08 | 10:51 PM
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You need strddle wire ends.
https://www.rivbike.com/products/list...s#product=none
https://www.rivbike.com/products/list...s#product=none
04-21-08 | 11:04 PM
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You need strddle wire ends.
https://www.rivbike.com/products/list...s#product=none
https://www.rivbike.com/products/list...s#product=none
04-22-08 | 05:42 AM
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You need strddle wire ends.
https://www.rivbike.com/products/list...s#product=none
https://www.rivbike.com/products/list...s#product=none
Neal
04-22-08 | 06:28 AM
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I like em. I'm still gonna make some from stainless steel. No rust 
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04-22-08 | 08:23 AM
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Unfortunately, lengthening the straddle cable reduces a centerpull caliper's braking leverage. Rear brake cable routing has always been a challenge with mixte or step-through frames, and this is one application where my mountain bike's under-chainstay mounting might have made sense.
Thanks for the link to the Rivendell straddle cable ends, since three of my bikes have Weinmann centerpull calipers.
Thanks for the link to the Rivendell straddle cable ends, since three of my bikes have Weinmann centerpull calipers.
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04-22-08 | 08:59 AM
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I had to make a longer straddle cable for the rear brake in order to use Mafac Competitions on a Raleigh Super Course mixte. I soldered pieces of brass tubing to the cable ends. I didn't notice any loss of braking power. In fact, I'm not convinced that it reduces leverage, since the pull will be more perpendicular to the brake arm with a longer straddle cable
04-22-08 | 09:26 PM
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Braking shouldn't be a problem and my wife rarely reaches the speed of sound except when she is cleaning the house then look out.
except when she is cleaning the house then look out.
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