Shogun serial # database?
#202
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The crankset in the first picture is different from your component crank.
The head tube looks like Shogun 100 or 200 model.
#203
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Im a bit late to the party but I have had my Shogun for 5 years. Found it chained to a tree with a for sale sign on it in LA. When i bought it it had all original parts. In the end i had to replace them all so i could actually ride the bike. Almost the only thing original is the frame and Handlebars... I love this bike so much.
M9K22318


the cable in the way is from my jerry-rigged front derailleur.
This bike has the same decals as PGMikeT. His decals looked like they were in better condition. If anyone knows a way to restore this bike without ruining the decals (cheaply... im a college student) let me know.



M9K22318
the cable in the way is from my jerry-rigged front derailleur.
This bike has the same decals as PGMikeT. His decals looked like they were in better condition. If anyone knows a way to restore this bike without ruining the decals (cheaply... im a college student) let me know.
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#206
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I'm working on, and riding, a 12 speed "Shogun Sport". SN: M6A00344. Nice Teal to Silver paint job, looks like a Shimano Skylark D500 derailleur, DiaCompe brakeset, and Sugino Crankset marked "DZF 52". It's made in Japan, and the fairly low serial number makes me think it must be an early model. Anyone have information as to when this was made? It cleaned up very nicely and rides like a dream for such an old machine... I'm thinking of changing the wheels to 700C's and replacing the shifters with an indexed set. Might need to change the brake set if the DiaComps won't reach the smaller wheels... Experienced suggestions and advice are welcome. I don't really ride enough to spend money on a newer lightweight machine, but I do enjoy riding this fixer upper around town, and I enjoy working on it.
#207
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From: Tampa, Florida
Bikes: 2017 Trek Domane S6, 2007 Trek 1000, 1979 Shogun
I just acquired a Shogun which is a 1979 Model; Ser Num S9D3040. The serial number was located on the non-drive side of the seat tube just above the BB shell rather than on the BB shell. It is equipped with Shimano 600 Arabesque derailleurs, shifters, crank, and brake levers. The brakes are Shimano Tourney. The crankset is a double (44/52 teeth) and 165mm arms. The cassette is a Shimano Uniglide 6 speed, 13-21 teeth. The seatpost is a Sakae/Ringyo 26.8mm. The hubs are shimano with 36-hole Araya (700c) rims. The pedals are Kyokuto Pro Vic II. The saddle is Kashimax Sports made by Kashima Saddle Mfg Co Ltd of Osaka, Japan. The handlebar is a Road Champion made by Alps Industrial Co Ltd of Japan.










#209
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S/N: M9K22505. After searching for answers for hours on end, I've convinced myself that I have a 1979 Shogun 400. F/R derailleurs are Altus LT and the crank is Shimano Tourney. I got it with Shimano 600 brakes, which I suspect had been changed out for the (what seems to be) original Tourney brakes. More details and pictures to come later...
Edit 1 - Tange 3 stamped on the back of the steerer tube.
also, added photos:









Edit 1 - Tange 3 stamped on the back of the steerer tube.
also, added photos:
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#210
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From: The other Maine, north of RT 2
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Really? Funny, my daughter is still riding it in Boston.
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You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.
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#211
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From: Denver CO
Bikes: 89 Bridgestibe RB-1, All City Nature Boy, Raleigh Tamland 1.0, Cycles Lamoure Track Bike, Clark Kent MTB, Bridgeston MB2 SS Commuter
I picked up a Shogun 500 frame and fork off craigslist for $60. Serial # S5065248. Tange 5 tubing with canti boss's and brazed on cable guides underneath the bottom bracket.
#212
1984 mtb-1. M4C20156. Appears to be original other than possibly seat/pedals. Cromo lugged frame, shimano AL-11 FD/RD, Suzue 36H hubs on Araya 26x1/75 alloy, sugino LP triple 48,36,24 x 5 rear (decal says 18 speed!), mtb 100 cromo bars, diacompe brakes, shimano EM shifters, japanese produced.





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#214
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From: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
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Tundra tires!! Nice looking survivor.
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“One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"
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#215
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I have recently bought a shogun frame. This was amongst some other parts that I got as a job lot. The frame number is S5W6405. I think that it is a 1985 shogun 500 touring bike. I cannot find any information on the classic steel sites here in the UK and it is not a common marque here. The frame has been repainted, but I would like find what the original shogun colours were, and what groupset was fitted. If anybody can help with this information, I would be grateful. Also, is there a site in the USA where I could obtain frame decals, as again there is nothing on the UK decal sites. Thanks in advance.
#217
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From: Fenton, MI
Bikes: CAAD 9 , Schwinn World, Prologue, Madison , Sports Tourer ; Ironman , Opus lll , Allez , Peugeot 753, Trek 531 (2) , Assenmacher ( custom)
If I'm not mistaken, on these Shoguns, the 2nd digit is the year . So it's a 1983 ( We can rule out 73 and 93) . By the way , thats a beautiful bike , you got a good deal !
#218
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From: Mullumbimby, Australia
Bikes: Trek Modone 6.5 (08), 1930's Healing, 1994 Ritchey Road Logic, Kuwuhara T/T early 90's, Shogun Prairie Breaker Expert 1992,
Does anyone know about Prairie Breaker Team issue's, this one runs a 26" rear and a 24" front wheel, running a full XT groupset 7 speed with thumb shifters, I'll try and get a serial number tomorrow.
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#219
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From: Rupert's Land
Bikes: 1981 Raleigh GP, 1985 Norco Bush Pilot, . . .
Here are a couple of links that may help.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...l#post11423370
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...gun-500-a.html
#220
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Thanks for the links. I am fairly certain of the date of manufacture now. I still cannot find anywhere that I could obtain Shogun decals. There are 2 companies in the UK that can supply decals going back to the 1920s, but cannot supply anything for Shogun.
#221
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From: Sahuarita, Arizona.
Bikes: Shogun road touring (1977). SR Pro/Am racer (1983?), Giant Rincon hard-tail mtn bike (2005)
Corrections :
I've got a Shogun road touring bike. 23" frame, 42" wheelbase. Serial # M7E18040. Probably bought in 1980, was previous year's model (discount!).
I don't remember the model name. Can anyone help?
*** I found the old Owner's Manual - Handwritten notes saying it is a 1979 Shogun 100. Can you confirm?
*** The frame stamp would imply 1977, right? Was a 2 year delay between frame manufacture and model assignment likely?
It has been heavily modified on the drive train and wheels.
Originally :
Shimano 600 brakes,
12 speed - Shimano cluster,
40/52 chainrings (I think),
Some kind of swaged 165mm crankset,
Bar end shifters (someone once said they looked like "Crane" shifters),
Some kind of short arm derailleurs that couldn't handle the triple crankset conversion,
I think the rims were low end single wall Arayas that had a bit of a jaggy part at the join,
Drop handlebars, but rather shallow drop, which suggests touring,
Laid back angles and long frame works well for loaded touring.
Here's a picture of the front badge :

---- Marty Hafner
I've got a Shogun road touring bike. 23" frame, 42" wheelbase. Serial # M7E18040. Probably bought in 1980, was previous year's model (discount!).
I don't remember the model name. Can anyone help?
*** I found the old Owner's Manual - Handwritten notes saying it is a 1979 Shogun 100. Can you confirm?
*** The frame stamp would imply 1977, right? Was a 2 year delay between frame manufacture and model assignment likely?
It has been heavily modified on the drive train and wheels.
Originally :
Shimano 600 brakes,
12 speed - Shimano cluster,
40/52 chainrings (I think),
Some kind of swaged 165mm crankset,
Bar end shifters (someone once said they looked like "Crane" shifters),
Some kind of short arm derailleurs that couldn't handle the triple crankset conversion,
I think the rims were low end single wall Arayas that had a bit of a jaggy part at the join,
Drop handlebars, but rather shallow drop, which suggests touring,
Laid back angles and long frame works well for loaded touring.
Here's a picture of the front badge :
---- Marty Hafner
Last edited by mdhafner; 11-17-15 at 03:26 PM. Reason: found new information
#222
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From: New York, NY
Bikes: Black Mountain Cycles Road and canti MX, Cannondale CAAD12, Bob Jackson Vigorelli
Pink Shogun 1000 Triple Triangle
A few members have commented on this bike that I'm not sure I have posted.
@Landofnone has something similar: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...d-up-time.html
@J.Oxley also has triple triangle Shogun: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...-triangle.html
@-holiday76 facilitated this for me in late 2014. (Thanks, Big guy!) I built it up over the holidays in 2014, but I'm more-or-less done tinkering. I can't think of anything I want to change. I've ridden about 3000 miles on it so far.
The serial number on this is M5L63485, and I suppose that makes it a 1986 model year.
It has a "Made in Japan" sticker above the bottom bracket on the seat tube.
The fonts used on this thing are crazy cool in a 1980s sort of sci-fi way.



@Landofnone has something similar: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...d-up-time.html
@J.Oxley also has triple triangle Shogun: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...-triangle.html
@-holiday76 facilitated this for me in late 2014. (Thanks, Big guy!) I built it up over the holidays in 2014, but I'm more-or-less done tinkering. I can't think of anything I want to change. I've ridden about 3000 miles on it so far.
The serial number on this is M5L63485, and I suppose that makes it a 1986 model year.
It has a "Made in Japan" sticker above the bottom bracket on the seat tube.
The fonts used on this thing are crazy cool in a 1980s sort of sci-fi way.
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#224
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What it came with were 6200 series hubs laced to Mavic GP4 rims, a 7 speed 6200 rd, 6400 indexed dt shifters, 105 pedals, early 6400 brake levers, SR World Champion bars that were like 38" ctc. This was built right at the switch from NewEX to 600 Ultegra, so there would be some "mismatch" in the parts between 6200 series and 6400 series. The 105 and 600 pedals are essentially the same as each other, so those might have been swapped at the shop. I'm not sure where the tubulars came from. Someone had to rebuild those onto the hubs.
The early 6400 brakes, I believe, are original, as is the 6200 series crankset, 6200 series fd, and Nitto stem. I replaced the SR bars with later SR Modolo bars, and I put on 8 speed 6400 series dt shifters and rd. The seatpost and saddle are not OEM. I built the wheels out of some 6400-series hubs from @RobE30 and @rhm to keep the 6200/6400 theme. The Sun Swift rims fit the bike, I think.
So, it's in the spirit of the original build, but I'm not a huge fan of freewheels or indexed 7 speed Shimano. 8 is much better as they had better QC by this point and a better sense of the technology. The tektro levers are a bit better than 6400 (which are better than 6209) in terms of functionality, and they were in my bin. I think that a bike like this is not particularly valuable, but can make a pretty good rider. The number of compliments I get on it is astounding, really. My nicer bikes are not as well regarded.
Edit: I think the chainrings were biopace. I have a no-no for biopace.
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#225
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Partially.
What it came with were 6200 series hubs laced to Mavic GL330 rims, a 7 speed 6200 rd, 6400 indexed dt shifters, 105 pedals, early 6400 brake levers, SR World Champion bars that were like 38" ctc. This was built right at the switch from NewEX to 600 Ultegra, so there would be some "mismatch" in the parts between 6200 series and 6400 series. The 105 and 600 pedals are essentially the same as each other, so those might have been swapped at the shop. I'm not sure where the tubulars came from. Someone had to rebuild those onto the hubs.
The early 6400 brakes, I believe, are original, as is the 6200 series crankset, 6200 series fd, and Nitto stem. I replaced the SR bars with later SR Modolo bars, and I put on 8 speed 6400 series dt shifters and rd. The seatpost and saddle are not OEM. I built the wheels out of some 6400-series hubs from @RobE30 and @rhm to keep the 6200/6400 theme. The Sun Swift rims fit the bike, I think.
So, it's in the spirit of the original build, but I'm not a huge fan of freewheels or indexed 7 speed Shimano. 8 is much better as they had better QC by this point and a better sense of the technology. The tektro levers are a bit better than 6400 (which are better than 6209) in terms of functionality, and they were in my bin. I think that a bike like this is not particularly valuable, but can make a pretty good rider. The number of compliments I get on it is astounding, really. My nicer bikes are not as well regarded.
Edit: I think the chainrings were biopace. I have a no-no for biopace.
What it came with were 6200 series hubs laced to Mavic GL330 rims, a 7 speed 6200 rd, 6400 indexed dt shifters, 105 pedals, early 6400 brake levers, SR World Champion bars that were like 38" ctc. This was built right at the switch from NewEX to 600 Ultegra, so there would be some "mismatch" in the parts between 6200 series and 6400 series. The 105 and 600 pedals are essentially the same as each other, so those might have been swapped at the shop. I'm not sure where the tubulars came from. Someone had to rebuild those onto the hubs.
The early 6400 brakes, I believe, are original, as is the 6200 series crankset, 6200 series fd, and Nitto stem. I replaced the SR bars with later SR Modolo bars, and I put on 8 speed 6400 series dt shifters and rd. The seatpost and saddle are not OEM. I built the wheels out of some 6400-series hubs from @RobE30 and @rhm to keep the 6200/6400 theme. The Sun Swift rims fit the bike, I think.
So, it's in the spirit of the original build, but I'm not a huge fan of freewheels or indexed 7 speed Shimano. 8 is much better as they had better QC by this point and a better sense of the technology. The tektro levers are a bit better than 6400 (which are better than 6209) in terms of functionality, and they were in my bin. I think that a bike like this is not particularly valuable, but can make a pretty good rider. The number of compliments I get on it is astounding, really. My nicer bikes are not as well regarded.
Edit: I think the chainrings were biopace. I have a no-no for biopace.

I don't believe that the QC at Shimano improved between 6200 and 6400. However, there was the expected technological progress, with increasing levels of trickle down. Certainly, I can understand the appeal of 6400 over 6200, especially the improved shifting performance of the HyperGlide cassette and the lighter feel and better modulation of the SLR brakeset.








