I am still researching my Cherubim. I am not finding any frame numbers or ser #. Where should I be looking? This was a custom made bike for a Marine stationed in Japan probably 70's. I am out of touch with him so I can not be sure. Is there a way to date the bike using the equipment? It is all original except pedals and seat. Is there a shop in So Cal, close to Temecula, that would know vintage bikes and how to find clues as to age? Would it help if I take photos of all markings and show photos here. I have written Andrew Muzi but have not heard from him yet. And if I have not asked enough questions yet let me ask one more. I need 1700 for new bikes ..am I dreaming of finding it in this bike. Thanks, Thomas

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Bring that stem down before anything else - looks as if the binder wedge might be right around the threaded area of the steerer. Not good for the stem nor the fork. Give the stem a thin coat of grease when you install it as well.

-Kurt

I rode the bike once, it was just not tall enough. The bars are as high as I could get them. It measured about 51-52 cm.

Doesn't matter - you may cause damage to the fork by doing so, for the stem is not meant to be clamped into this relatively weak section of the steerer tube.

-Kurt

I'll get it down.

The first bike shop thought I had a 3rensho, and I don't , so today I took it to a 2nd bike shop the guy there said it would make good transportation and I should sell it for $50. lol I emailed a Dave at one of the vintage web sites. hope he writes back, At least the hunt is educational. If I can't get a good price for it I am thinking of giving it to someone who can appreciate it.