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Tomato time, couldn't let this one pass, I'm a Homegrown fan.
2000 Schwinn anodized frame, all the things I don't favor black, hubs, spokes, seat post, handlebars, combo brake shifter pods, color rims, color tires... xt pods cranks and fd, rd xtr, Avid brakes, hubs Hugi, mavic rims,Judy SID fork, titec stem bars and seat post. This looks to be stock minus the saddle. With the saddle on it now makes me think someone thought they bought it as a comfort cruiser, and then barely used it. This was covered with dirt and had flat tires, no build or rebuilding needed on this one just clean up, and very minor rust on some Allen bolts. |
Originally Posted by Mr. 66
(Post 20103430)
Tomato time, couldn't let this one pass, I'm a Homegrown fan.
2000 Schwinn anodized frame, all the things I don't favor black, hubs, spokes, seat post, handlebars, combo brake shifter pods, color rims, color tires... xt pods cranks and fd, rd xtr, Avid brakes, hubs Hugi, mavic rims,Judy SID fork, titec stem bars and seat post. This looks to be stock minus the saddle. With the saddle on it now makes me think someone thought they bought it as a comfort cruiser, and then barely used it. This was covered with dirt and had flat tires, no build or rebuilding needed on this one just clean up, and very minor rust on some Allen bolts. |
Originally Posted by oldlugs
(Post 20103133)
Another pile I didn't get pics of yet is a pickup load of misc fenders, there has to be 100 pair, plus a few dozen vintage new old stock fender sets. There's at least 50 decent wheelsets, although most are steel. There's two 6ft tall drawer steel cabinets, (think library card file size drawers), full of misc new parts, ND hubs, kits, pedal parts, headsets, bb's, bearings, etc. He told me to just wheel the cabinets out whole, along with the tools and benches if I want. He want's his wife to be able to park in the garage when I'm done.
I'm trying to get the carport shed too, if that goes with the deal, then I'll have some immediate storage here right away. I think I can brace up the single car carport with wood and carry it slowly in one piece, its only a few miles or so down back roads. I'll do it in the wee hours of the morning so there's no traffic and park it in my yard once the sun comes up. Its 10' tall in the center, my trailer deck is 28" off the ground, it may just work if I rig it up right. If nothing else, I'll have a shady place to park my car in the driveway when I'm done. Here's a few more pics: 1- New old stock Normandy Hubs 2- Ross dealer sign 3- 70's Schwinn Typhoon This is probably the best looking of the whole bikes, I grabbed it because it was by the door and it looked like someone was riding it at some point and parking it there. It also helped to hold down several bundles of tires I tossed in the truck that were hanging on the walls there. 4- 30+ year old Cycle Pro tires on Rigida steel rims 5- Park Stand head, (This is all I found so far. Plus a vintage Bendix hub 6&7- Araya 27" wheel single - odd rim with no mate, I'm sure there will be plenty more single wheels with no match. 8- Araya wheelset with Japanese 'Chair' brand steel hubs? Never heard of this brand hub before, its no doubt low end but what bikes used them? Maybe an old Ross? There seems to be quite a few Ross bikes in the lot, but they were popular around here back in the day. Ross, Columbia, Rollfast, and Peugeot were the most common brands around back in the 70's, with a few Schwinn, Raleigh, Motobecane, and Panasonic bikes here and there. |
Originally Posted by PugRider
(Post 20103303)
Wow, that's quite the stash you came upon.
If it were me, I'd take it all, assemble as many complete bikes as I could from all that, stash some wheelsets, have the local co-op take what they want, and scrap the rest. The only thing I'd be concerned about is becoming this guy--in 20 years somebody knocking on my door to ask about the giant pile of parts I didn't know what to do with. Have fun! I suppose more than three quarters of the lot is 'undesirable' parts. I don't see much of a market for Columbia 10 speeds and cheap Japanese bikes from the 70's. We used to have a few guys that gathered parts and built bikes to give to kids who didn't have a bike but I haven't seen anyone like that around in 10 or more years. The local police auctions are usually loaded with bikes like this or worse too. I found a few more new old stock wheelsets today I missed in the pile last night, and a few boxes of nos derailleurs, axles, and bar tape. Lots of pink and mustard brown bar tape too. The guy had to be buying in bulk from a wholesaler at some point, a lot of the boxes are from Joannou Cycle in NY. The cabinets seem to be where the gold is, lots of hard to find bolts and brackets. (Plus bags of Cat Eye brand plastic reflectors and brake bolt brackets, along with wheel reflectors and cheap helmets, the kind that are just white polystyrene with a glossy shell and chin strap. several of the large tubs which were pretty heavy turned out to have cranksets in them, complete SR cranksets, scripted in various manufacturers names. Lots of Raleigh, Motobecane, and a few first generation Shimano 600. sets along with a few dozen new old stock hubs, both Normandy and Shimano high flange, plus a dozen or so Maillard low flange models. There's enough parts to build another 100 or more bikes, I just don't see them being worth the labor as low end models just don't bring enough in the end. |
Originally Posted by oldlugs
(Post 20104147)
I wish we had bike coops here, until I signed up here I never heard of them. Around here bikes get trashed or end up in a hoarders pile somewhere I guess.
I suppose more than three quarters of the lot is 'undesirable' parts. I don't see much of a market for Columbia 10 speeds and cheap Japanese bikes from the 70's. We used to have a few guys that gathered parts and built bikes to give to kids who didn't have a bike but I haven't seen anyone like that around in 10 or more years. The local police auctions are usually loaded with bikes like this or worse too. I found a few more new old stock wheelsets today I missed in the pile last night, and a few boxes of nos derailleurs, axles, and bar tape. Lots of pink and mustard brown bar tape too. The guy had to be buying in bulk from a wholesaler at some point, a lot of the boxes are from Joannou Cycle in NY. The cabinets seem to be where the gold is, lots of hard to find bolts and brackets. (Plus bags of Cat Eye brand plastic reflectors and brake bolt brackets, along with wheel reflectors and cheap helmets, the kind that are just white polystyrene with a glossy shell and chin strap. several of the large tubs which were pretty heavy turned out to have cranksets in them, complete SR cranksets, scripted in various manufacturers names. Lots of Raleigh, Motobecane, and a few first generation Shimano 600. sets along with a few dozen new old stock hubs, both Normandy and Shimano high flange, plus a dozen or so Maillard low flange models. There's enough parts to build another 100 or more bikes, I just don't see them being worth the labor as low end models just don't bring enough in the end. |
Originally Posted by non-fixie
(Post 20102409)
Really nice! Dig those pedals.
And the great thing about these is that they don't take up nearly as much room as one in my size. I mean, if you're going to buy a bike that's too small to ride, you might as well go really small. :) As a matter of fact I've joined that trend recently. 30 cents I think I paid for it. Even the brake adjusters work better than on my big bikes. https://myalbum.com/photo/bxJNKlaYP7wH/1k0.jpg "AND its belt drive!" :thumb: ----- |
Originally Posted by juvela
(Post 20104207)
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
(Post 20104438)
Yes! But as you can see, it really needs horizontal dropouts for getting the tension correct. Perhaps a framer builder with very small hands ...
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Originally Posted by bnewberry
(Post 20104188)
We don't have a coop near here either. If you have the time a lot of the better parts will sell on eBay or here etc. If I had access to parts like this I would teach a bike repair class or build a kid a bike at a local church, sell parts and scrap the very low end stuff.
Today I loaded up more boxes of bare rims, most are in lots of 20 and 24, all from the 70's and 80's. There's also some smaller rims made in Italy, not sure what brand they could be for, and a few boxes of cheap replacement steel rims. It doesn't look like the guy was ever a dealer, just a used bike shop, with a hoarder mentality to some extent. I suppose at some point the low end bikes sold well. The odd thing is I grew up in this area and never remember him being there, there was never a sign, never any reason to believe he was building, fixing, or selling bikes there. My major concern is that there's not enough money in these to make it worth the effort, the sum of the new parts is minor since most of it is all low end common parts, boxes of 1/2 rubber block pedals, wald axles, wald fenders, nuts, bolts, and brackets etc. Even on eBay you can only sell so much of that kind of stuff so fast. Larger items that don't have big value don't sell because the shipping cost adds too much to the cost of the item to make it worth the trouble. For instance, if I list a set of steel wheels online, and they're say worth only $30 locally, and its going to take $30 to ship, they're just not going to sell. In the end the seller ends up eating the cost of the shipping no matter what. With this in mind they really need to sell locally to be worth dealing with and I don't see that happening. I'm mainly hoping that I'll find enough items in the lot I want to keep or use to make the whole mess worthwhile. As I stand now, I've got about 16 hours in moving this stuff, and I've not even unloaded the second load yet. It can't stay in the trailer, and I don't want to jam up the garage with a pile of bikes either. Its going to get sorted and stripped as it comes out of the trailer, if its not perfect, its gone. I just hate to scrap a lot of good cheap bike frames but in the end they're not worth anything any other way, they may not even be worth the fuel to haul them to the junk yard with the way scrap prices have been lately. The whole trailer full of bikes isn't worth the time and fuel to haul to the junk yard, nor is it worth risking a flat tire in those places. I'd likely just pile the junk up for a scrap guy to come take. The last time I had a pile of frames like this I ended up having to compact them into a dumpster just to get rid of them. Even the scrap guys didn't want light iron. For right now I'm trying not to think too far ahead though. I've got the basement and one garage bay empty, plus all the benches cleared off. What's left is the bulk lot of cheap bikes and what ever is upstairs in tubs. I'm finding tubs full of used bearings, boxes of misc old headsets, bottom brackets, and nuts and bolts. He saved everything. There are boxes of crusty used cheap derailleurs all over the place, and I found fourteen boxes full of used hubs, all just cut out of their rims with the spoke still hanging on. I've got at least 400 lbs of Shimano 333 three speed hubs, in unknown condition, about half of that in SA hubs, and another 35 or so milk crates full of cheap steel hubs. Many are low spoke count hubs. I filled the bed of a pickup truck today with rusty, bent old fenders that he had stored upstairs. I suppose there may well be a gem in all this mess but I'm not too optimistic from what I've seen so far. Its likely just going to turn out to be a pile of nice wheels and some new parts and a couple tons of scrap. I bagged and threw away over 1500 rotten bike tires already that he had saved all over the place. Some where rotted so bad they were falling apart just handling them. My guess is that he saved every tire he ever changed. |
Originally Posted by non-fixie
(Post 20102409)
Really nice! Dig those pedals.
And the great thing about these is that they don't take up nearly as much room as one in my size. I mean, if you're going to buy a bike that's too small to ride, you might as well go really small. :) As a matter of fact I've joined that trend recently. 30 cents I think I paid for it. Even the brake adjusters work better than on my big bikes. https://myalbum.com/photo/bxJNKlaYP7wH/1k0.jpg I'm not sure where he got it or how much he paid for it but he would get very nervous when someone handled it. |
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Here's some more pics, most of this stuff looks new or close to it.
I suppose I could fill the next 20 pages with pics from this lot, there won't be any end to it anytime soon as it'll take months to sort through all the tubs. This is just a few of the better items I grabbed and set aside. The weather isn't going to cooperate today so not much will get done other than stuffing the last trailer full. Since this is in someone's backyard, I can't go in with a big truck, I've been doing this with enclosed car trailers and a couple of diesel pickups, plus a few of my vans from the shop. I also don't want to just show up there with a bunch of strangers since a lot of this stuff is in his house. After today all the trailers and trucks will be full, I have to empty the vans asap, I need them for work, but the big trailers can stay loaded for a few days. I cleared out two rooms upstairs at my shop for storage, so I can pack some items in there. I suppose I can stash quite a few wheels and boxes of parts in a pair of 30x23ft rooms with 10ft ceilings for now if its done right. The only problem is hauling it all up the stairs to get it there for right now. I took most of the new old stock wheelsets home to the house. Like everything else, these are extremely dusty but not rusted or corroded. They all clean up with just a quick wipe with a rag for the most part. 1 - Super Champion 27" w/Normandy hub so far this doesn't have a mate 2 - Weinmann 519 700Cx37 Kenda wheel, (no matching rear so far) 3 - Weinman Concave 700C w/Atom LF hubs Raleigh scripted skewers 4 - Schwinn S6 26x1 3/8" 1956 date on SA AW hub OLD Western Auto Nylon tires still inflated! 5 - Schwinn S5 26x1 3/8" 1961 dated Schwinn scripted 3spd hub 6 - Schwinn Scripted hub on above wheelset 7 - Mavic Open Pro front wheel 700Cx23 tire Ultegra hub, *no rear match so far) 8 - Araya 26x1.75 36h MTB rims, (mid 80's?) 9 - Araya alloy rims with Shimano 333 HF hubs, new old stock 10 - Atom LF hubs on Weinmann Concave wheelset |
Originally Posted by oldlugs
(Post 20105543)
Here's some more pics, most of this stuff looks new or close to it.
I suppose I could fill the next 20 pages with pics from this lot, there won't be any end to it anytime soon as it'll take months to sort through all the tubs. This is just a few of the better items I grabbed and set aside. The weather isn't going to cooperate today so not much will get done other than stuffing the last trailer full. Since this is in someone's backyard, I can't go in with a big truck, I've been doing this with enclosed car trailers and a couple of diesel pickups, plus a few of my vans from the shop. I also don't want to just show up there with a bunch of strangers since a lot of this stuff is in his house. After today all the trailers and trucks will be full, I have to empty the vans asap, I need them for work, but the big trailers can stay loaded for a few days. I cleared out two rooms upstairs at my shop for storage, so I can pack some items in there. I suppose I can stash quite a few wheels and boxes of parts in a pair of 30x23ft rooms with 10ft ceilings for now if its done right. The only problem is hauling it all up the stairs to get it there for right now. I took most of the new old stock wheelsets home to the house. Like everything else, these are extremely dusty but not rusted or corroded. They all clean up with just a quick wipe with a rag for the most part. 1 - Super Champion 27" w/Normandy hub so far this doesn't have a mate 2 - Weinmann 519 700Cx37 Kenda wheel, (no matching rear so far) 3 - Weinman Concave 700C w/Atom LF hubs Raleigh scripted skewers 4 - Schwinn S6 26x1 3/8" 1956 date on SA AW hub OLD Western Auto Nylon tires still inflated! 5 - Schwinn S5 26x1 3/8" 1961 dated Schwinn scripted 3spd hub 6 - Schwinn Scripted hub on above wheelset 7 - Mavic Open Pro front wheel 700Cx23 tire Ultegra hub, *no rear match so far) 8 - Araya 26x1.75 36h MTB rims, (mid 80's?) 9 - Araya alloy rims with Shimano 333 HF hubs, new old stock 10 - Atom LF hubs on Weinmann Concave wheelset Don't want to be a vulture, but if you find any big fat tanwall tires in 27x1-3/8 that aren't too dried out I would LOVE to get a few pairs off of you. I believe there is someone else on here too who is in search of the same. They just don't make fat 27" tires like they used to anymore! I could also use a big fat pair of tanwall 650B tires as well. I just found a pair of 650B wheels in my shed the other day that I didn't even know I had! |
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Originally Posted by oldlugs
(Post 20104147)
I wish we had bike coops here, until I signed up here I never heard of them. Around here bikes get trashed or end up in a hoarders pile somewhere I guess.
I suppose more than three quarters of the lot is 'undesirable' parts. I don't see much of a market for Columbia 10 speeds and cheap Japanese bikes from the 70's. We used to have a few guys that gathered parts and built bikes to give to kids who didn't have a bike but I haven't seen anyone like that around in 10 or more years. The local police auctions are usually loaded with bikes like this or worse too. I found a few more new old stock wheelsets today I missed in the pile last night, and a few boxes of nos derailleurs, axles, and bar tape. Lots of pink and mustard brown bar tape too. The guy had to be buying in bulk from a wholesaler at some point, a lot of the boxes are from Joannou Cycle in NY. The cabinets seem to be where the gold is, lots of hard to find bolts and brackets. (Plus bags of Cat Eye brand plastic reflectors and brake bolt brackets, along with wheel reflectors and cheap helmets, the kind that are just white polystyrene with a glossy shell and chin strap. several of the large tubs which were pretty heavy turned out to have cranksets in them, complete SR cranksets, scripted in various manufacturers names. Lots of Raleigh, Motobecane, and a few first generation Shimano 600. sets along with a few dozen new old stock hubs, both Normandy and Shimano high flange, plus a dozen or so Maillard low flange models. There's enough parts to build another 100 or more bikes, I just don't see them being worth the labor as low end models just don't bring enough in the end. Glenn |
Originally Posted by Glennfordx4
(Post 20105649)
I had almost the same thing happen to me about 10yrs ago. A customer from my Power Equipment repair shop came to my house right after I closed my shop ( I told him I would still work on his stuff from home ) and I had a lot of bikes around, he says I didn't know you were into bikes and I asked him if he saw the bikes at my repair shop ( he just didn't put 2 & 2 together), he tells me he had a bike shop that he closed almost 30yrs ago and still had everything packed in a garage and some sheds, he gave it all to me! He turned out to be a great friend after that and I helped him with anything I could, he was 92yrs old and still riding, he passed a few yrs ago and I miss him all the time. He was a mailman who liked bikes and planes building his first plane in the same shop he did bike repairs in, I worked on his Rotax 2 cycle engines for him. Here is a before & after pic of his truing stand he gave me, which I gave to my boss and it is displayed at our shop.
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Originally Posted by Glennfordx4
(Post 20105649)
I had almost the same thing happen to me about 10yrs ago. A customer from my Power Equipment repair shop came to my house right after I closed my shop ( I told him I would still work on his stuff from home ) and I had a lot of bikes around, he says I didn't know you were into bikes and I asked him if he saw the bikes at my repair shop ( he just didn't put 2 & 2 together), he tells me he had a bike shop that he closed almost 30yrs ago and still had everything packed in a garage and some sheds, he gave it all to me! He turned out to be a great friend after that and I helped him with anything I could, he was 92yrs old and still riding, he passed a few yrs ago and I miss him all the time. He was a mailman who liked bikes and planes building his first plane in the same shop he did bike repairs in, I worked on his Rotax 2 cycle engines for him. Here is a before & after pic of his truing stand he gave me, which I gave to my boss and it is displayed at our shop.
Glenn The Hozan is a nice stand to use but the TS2 dishes the wheel for you automatically. |
OLDLUGS
Where are you out of? I realize you must have too much to list on her but perhaps somebody might have something you need and they might have something you want (assuming that the deal was you not sell on Ebay but it's okay to trade???) |
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Here's another group of pics, these were on his bench area, which is buried, plus a few shots in a room in the garage with the furnace in it which we haven't figured out how to get in and out of yet. There's bikes and parts on shelves beyond where we've been able to walk, Its looking like we might have to remove the parts, then the shelves just to reach the back of the one room. There's two more of these drawer cabinets full of parts I haven't been able to reach yet too. He's told me to take the tool boxes, tools, benches, and bike stands too. So far I'm up to five trips with more than one trailer at a time. If this wasn't close to home, I'd probably just rent a few 53' box vans and get it done all in one shot but the car trailer route lets me back right up to the garage around the back of the house.
I had four guys working for the past four or five hours unloading the car trailers, so those are ready for another load either tonight or tomorrow. I'm hoping one more trip does it, I'm running out of spare room to put this stuff. The last load can stay in the trailers but I've still got all the bikes in the tin shed and most of the bikes in the main garage to load on top of the parts in the two back rooms, the attic, and what ever is left in the house upstairs. On top of his adding places to empty to the list, his wife, who can barely walk has been dragging things out of hiding places as well. I'm guessing he had parts stashed all over the house. This isn't the first place like this I cleaned out but its by far one of the biggest lots. He's giving me the parts, but the ordeal is getting expensive both due to the fuel in the trucks, buying everyone lunch and dinner when they work, hourly pay for up to four guys at a time from a local labor service, plus pizza and beer for the handful of buddies who have been here every night to help sort and haul this stuff upstairs. |
On a flip note, I guess I'm not getting much done at work for the last three days this week, so far all I've done is move bike parts since I got involved in this. Its looking like some will have to go in my basement at the house as well, plus the shed, garage, backyard, boat, camper, you name it. Just so I don't have to pay to store any of it I'll deal with it till I get it sorted out. I did grab the tool boxes and bring them right home, plus all the tools hanging all over the place.
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The condition and order of all the materials is truly impressive. Usually with troves like this the holdings are grunge, messy, dirty and of little value/utility. This is quite something! Take your time and enjoy... ----- |
Originally Posted by oldlugs
(Post 20106554)
On a flip note, I guess I'm not getting much done at work for the last three days this week, so far all I've done is move bike parts since I got involved in this. Its looking like some will have to go in my basement at the house as well, plus the shed, garage, backyard, boat, camper, you name it. Just so I don't have to pay to store any of it I'll deal with it till I get it sorted out. I did grab the tool boxes and bring them right home, plus all the tools hanging all over the place.
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Originally Posted by oldlugs
(Post 20106544)
Here's another group of pics, these were on his bench area, which is buried, plus a few shots in a room in the garage with the furnace in it which we haven't figured out how to get in and out of yet. There's bikes and parts on shelves beyond where we've been able to walk, Its looking like we might have to remove the parts, then the shelves just to reach the back of the one room. There's two more of these drawer cabinets full of parts I haven't been able to reach yet too. He's told me to take the tool boxes, tools, benches, and bike stands too. So far I'm up to five trips with more than one trailer at a time. If this wasn't close to home, I'd probably just rent a few 53' box vans and get it done all in one shot but the car trailer route lets me back right up to the garage around the back of the house.
I had four guys working for the past four or five hours unloading the car trailers, so those are ready for another load either tonight or tomorrow. I'm hoping one more trip does it, I'm running out of spare room to put this stuff. The last load can stay in the trailers but I've still got all the bikes in the tin shed and most of the bikes in the main garage to load on top of the parts in the two back rooms, the attic, and what ever is left in the house upstairs. On top of his adding places to empty to the list, his wife, who can barely walk has been dragging things out of hiding places as well. I'm guessing he had parts stashed all over the house. This isn't the first place like this I cleaned out but its by far one of the biggest lots. He's giving me the parts, but the ordeal is getting expensive both due to the fuel in the trucks, buying everyone lunch and dinner when they work, hourly pay for up to four guys at a time from a local labor service, plus pizza and beer for the handful of buddies who have been here every night to help sort and haul this stuff upstairs. |
Originally Posted by oldlugs
(Post 20103133)
2- Ross dealer sign
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sekine model ???
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A guy that I do automotive repair for was throwing away a sekine not sure what model but he said I could have it I would like to restore this bike and any help on what model it is would be great
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Originally Posted by PilotFishBob
(Post 20107129)
Those tools are *the* treasure. The 2nd bike I ever bought was a '77 Raleigh Super Course that I got at a garage sale and I still have. The lady selling asked me if I might want some tools with it and for a small amount extra I walked away with a lot of Park tools that quickly became indispensible. At the time I purchased them I didn't realize just how important they'd become to me, but i was taught to never turn down tools at a reasonable price. Good advice...
The guy had four tool boxes atop a workbench along the back wall in the garage, and another in the house in the basement. I couldn't even see the tools or what was on the benches because of the clutter. Each drawer in the tool boxes had an oily rag covering the tools in each drawer. |
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