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Nubra 05-15-21 12:22 PM

Bike Co-op reject, Olmos
 
Found this at the local co-op in their "strip" pile. A lower end Olmo. They wanted $10 for the shifters. Rear wheel missing, but I propped the bike up with this one. Yes, it is a wreck, but I love the lugwork. I tried to look up the serial number but their website is very hard to figure out. I think this is a 1970's, but don't know. There mechs are Shimano. Probably originally a drop bar? Or did they just put modern risers on it?

Does anyone know about this bike, obviously a lower end model, but still pretty.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b5cb48fff8.jpg

Olmos

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2e3c963b6a.jpg

Headbadge completely worn out, nice lugs

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...65f0c96c33.jpg

Original? Don't think so, I think this had drop bars originally? Allow on it now.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d17c7c115d.jpg

Bottom bracket has updated sealed bearings

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...61795ae8f0.jpg

Shimano

Nubra 05-15-21 12:27 PM

[QUOTE=Nubra;22060792]Found this at the local co-op in their "strip" pile. They wanted $10 for the shifters. Rear wheel missing, but I propped the bike up with this one. Yes, it is a wreck, but I love the lugwork. I tried to look up the serial number but their website is very hard to figure out. I think this is a 1970's, but don't know. There mechs are Shimano. Probably originally a drop bar? Or did they just put modern risers on it?

more photos
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7d94a321bc.jpg
Mafac racers
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5f37dc4d9b.jpg
Front mech
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ece8fbc2ce.jpg
The usual
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cc303879ea.jpg
Serial Number, no help
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3deef13f7a.jpg
Flared brroks saddle
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...51e015f05f.jpg
Sealed bottom bracket in place

dweenk 05-15-21 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Nubra (Post 22060792)
Found this at the local co-op in their "strip" pile. They wanted $10 for the shifters. Rear wheel missing, but I propped the bike up with this one. Yes, it is a wreck, but I love the lugwork. I tried to look up the serial number but their website is very hard to figure out. I think this is a 1970's, but don't know. There mechs are Shimano. Probably originally a drop bar? Or did they just put modern risers on it?

Does anyone know about this bike, obviously a lower end model, but still pretty.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b5cb48fff8.jpg

Olmos

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2e3c963b6a.jpg

Headbadge completely worn out, nice lugs

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...65f0c96c33.jpg

Original? Don't think so, I think this had drop bars originally? Allow on it now.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d17c7c115d.jpg

Bottom bracket has updated sealed bearings

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...61795ae8f0.jpg

Shimano

I kind of like it too. It looks like it spent its life in Santa Cruz or somewhere near the ocean.. I think that that the bars were changed when the basket was added - is there embossing on the headbadge that would give a clue to the maker?

Nubra 05-15-21 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 22060805)
I kind of like it too. It looks like it spent its life in Santa Cruz or somewhere near the ocean.. I think that that the bars were changed when the basket was added - is there embossing on the headbadge that would give a clue to the maker?

It is an Olmo, thought I posted that?

fettsvenska 05-15-21 06:33 PM

[QUOTE=Nubra;22060798]

Originally Posted by Nubra (Post 22060792)
Found this at the local co-op in their "strip" pile. They wanted $10 for the shifters. Rear wheel missing, but I propped the bike up with this one. Yes, it is a wreck, but I love the lugwork. I tried to look up the serial number but their website is very hard to figure out. I think this is a 1970's, but don't know. There mechs are Shimano. Probably originally a drop bar? Or did they just put modern risers on it?

more photos

Mafac racers

Front mech

The usual

Serial Number, no help

Flared brroks saddle

Sealed bottom bracket in place

I think that you are probably right that it might be a lower end bike but that is somewhat relative. Low end or not, I still think that this is a way cool bike and definitely worth salvaging and saving if you possibly can. Hopefully that Brooks saddle isn't too far gone. Great find!

OlderNotWiser 05-18-21 05:44 AM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b14980570.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4c81d2d78.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...95a0ff92b.jpeg
Found a few weeks ago dumped behind our communal bins. Much befuddlement on my part as to its age & model but not expecting much, especially with the 'groovy' paintwork.
Much, confusing, research later we have the answer: Bianchi Caurus Proto in Columbus Max tubing. This is going to be fun and vexing to blueprint, especially on my non-existent budget but I have my wife's loony friends in Italy on the case, hoping that they can locate the correct 'aero' fork, apparently unobtanium!
Gradually warming to the pearl coral & black.

TCollen 05-18-21 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by brandenjs (Post 22059199)
Well I don’t know of any Park Tool I wouldn’t pick up for $1.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...82f631321.jpeg

Over the years I have found many Park tools in the local pawn shop's bins of miscellaneous tools. Just last week two were found. Usually the price for miscellaneous tools is $5 for one handful. It's like Christmas when those blue handles are spotted.

SeanBikes 05-20-21 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by SeanBikes (Post 21950369)
The next one:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4d7dd8bd41.jpg
Renegade Midnite 12

$51 on Kijiji -- Yes, the guy wanted the $1... Sorry for the picture of a picture... I've gotta remember to take a 'before' pic ahead of stripping and cleaning it next time.

Anyone able to help on the year?
Serial #: L0437-04236-40929

Just got around to posting the update. Nothing special, but given new life as a commuter for a friend!
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d2a3d063bb.jpg
Renegade Midnite 12 - by Raleigh Canada c. 1984?

Mainly just new consumables (cables/housings, chain, bar tape, tubes), updated brake levers and seat, and a good clean/tune-up!

SchRadler 05-20-21 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 22057480)
That's pretty steep. I'd expect the price for a good one to be about half that but I'm no specialist. I did sell the bikes new.

Also, you need to be aware that the Vent Noir (model) II is the one available in smoke chrome. The original VN, like the one you linked to, is only available in the matte black finish. Both very nice and probably no other differences in the frames other than the finish but if you want chrome, you should probably get chrome. Good luck!


Originally Posted by ellei.oh (Post 22057618)
Thank you for letting me know. I couldn’t find anything on the chrome finish but now that you have confirmed they did make them I will begin my quest on finding one. The matte black is nice but the chrome is better. Maybe I’ll get lucky and won’t find one that is overpriced.

Veering off course here toward a Vent Noir mixte thread, but if you ever decide to "settle" for the matte black, here's a better deal. For $0.01 more than the ebay listing you get these gorgeous gold wheels with the original black DA hubs AND a 1976 issue of Bicycling featuring a review of this bike.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...64871221476745

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e594efb13c.jpg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f7d7ad984b.jpg

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f92097b860.jpg

Murray Missile 05-23-21 09:11 AM

Just got home with this...... and no, it's not an optical illusion. The fork blades do trail the centerline of the headtube slightly. Bent or made that way? I'll make a separate thread with more pics and details.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1be2ba8906.jpg

rekmeyata 05-23-21 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 22060805)
I kind of like it too. It looks like it spent its life in Santa Cruz or somewhere near the ocean.. I think that that the bars were changed when the basket was added - is there embossing on the headbadge that would give a clue to the maker?

Yes, it is an Olmo as someone has already said. The big clue was the headset, but then the badge matched the same shape as an Olmo badge, so it's an Olmo.

rekmeyata 05-23-21 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Murray Missile (Post 22072215)
Just got home with this...... and no, it's not an optical illusion. The fork blades do trail the centerline of the headtube slightly. Bent or made that way? I'll make a separate thread with more pics and details.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1be2ba8906.jpg

Every tall bike that I ever seen the forks seemed to be bent back just a tad, not sure if that was due to the extra length of the fork combined with the bike manufactures didn't make the fork any more stouter than a regular size bike combined with rider weight and time; OR, it could be that the headset is worn and the play moves the fork back just a tad which gives it the appearance of being bent.

OlderNotWiser 05-23-21 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Murray Missile (Post 22072215)
Just got home with this...... and no, it's not an optical illusion. The fork blades do trail the centerline of the headtube slightly. Bent or made that way? I'll make a separate thread with more pics and details.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1be2ba8906.jpg

Impact damaged or otherwise, she is puurrrty!

Murray Missile 05-24-21 07:48 AM

No play or binding in the headset. I put a straight edge down the headtube and the fork blades do trail but not as badly as it appears in the picture.


Originally Posted by rekmeyata (Post 22072475)
Every tall bike that I ever seen the forks seemed to be bent back just a tad, not sure if that was due to the extra length of the fork combined with the bike manufactures didn't make the fork any more stouter than a regular size bike combined with rider weight and time; OR, it could be that the headset is worn and the play moves the fork back just a tad which gives it the appearance of being bent.


rustystrings61 05-24-21 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Murray Missile (Post 22073449)
No play or binding in the headset. I put a straight down the headtube and the fork blades do trail but not as badly as it appears in the picture.

It seems to me that I read somewhere on this forum that Peugeot built their forks like this from the start, with a certain amount of "trail" built in. Is my memory failing again? Am I misremembering?

rustystrings61 05-24-21 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by hazetguy (Post 22073793)

I didn't know Uri Geller was on this list! *ducking*

tarinalynn 05-24-21 11:58 AM

These are some great saves! I am excited to get started on the 1987 Kuwahara Butte XL mtb I just yanked from a rust pile. Pics when the forum allows a newbie to post ‘em. (3of10)

mkeller234 05-24-21 03:18 PM

Great accidental find today when I was picking up my groceries. Miyata 912, outside a sports store with a buy it now price. Pink is the theme of my day!
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f30836aba.jpeg

OlderNotWiser 05-24-21 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by mkeller234 (Post 22074286)
Great accidental find today when I was picking up my groceries. Miyata 912, outside a sports store with a buy it now price. Pink is the theme of my day!
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f30836aba.jpeg

With my recent find (posted upthread) I have to agree that pink & black steeds are for winners!!

rekmeyata 05-24-21 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Murray Missile (Post 22073449)
No play or binding in the headset. I put a straight edge down the headtube and the fork blades do trail but not as badly as it appears in the picture.

You are there, does it look the same bend when you eyeball it in the exact same position as the camera was in?

It could be very slightly bent and bent at the steerer tube slightly, or it's an illusion, or the bike was built that was as one poster mentioned.

Murray Missile 05-25-21 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by rekmeyata (Post 22074521)
You are there, does it look the same bend when you eyeball it in the exact same position as the camera was in?

It could be very slightly bent and bent at the steerer tube slightly, or it's an illusion, or the bike was built that was as one poster mentioned.

Bent right where the steerer tube meets the crown. I'm going to find some bar stock to just fit inside the steerer for support and give it a little "nudge" then inspect for signs of cracking or fatigue. If it passes back in it goes. Been in QC for 43 years, much of it doing just that type of inspection. Plus I picked a metal working tip or two along the way so I trust me. ;)

rekmeyata 05-25-21 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by Murray Missile (Post 22074917)
Bent right where the steerer tube meets the crown. I'm going to find some bar stock to just fit inside the steerer for support and give it a little "nudge" then inspect for signs of cracking or fatigue. If it passes back in it goes. Been in QC for 43 years, much of it doing just that type of inspection. Plus I picked a metal working tip or two along the way so I trust me. ;)

Ok, that's what I thought I saw too. Since the bend is very slight, I doubt it would be cracked or fatigued, they probably were a big rider and hit a pothole or something that bent it just a hair. I see that a lot on large frame bikes like yours. They should have built the forks more stout on those large size bikes.

oneclick 05-26-21 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by Murray Missile (Post 22074917)
Bent right where the steerer tube meets the crown. I'm going to find some bar stock to just fit inside the steerer for support and give it a little "nudge" then inspect for signs of cracking or fatigue. If it passes back in it goes. Been in QC for 43 years, much of it doing just that type of inspection. Plus I picked a metal working tip or two along the way so I trust me. ;)

You may have to finesse the insert if the steerer has two different ID's, as it would if reinforced at the bottom. If it is, try to find a quill stem that has an ID the same as the smaller steerer ID, use that as a sleeve for your bar.

Murray Missile 05-26-21 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by rustystrings61 (Post 22073461)
It seems to me that I read somewhere on this forum that Peugeot built their forks like this from the start, with a certain amount of "trail" built in. Is my memory failing again? Am I misremembering?

I also have a PXN10 and a PRN10 frameset and the forks don't trail like this.

Murray Missile 05-26-21 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by oneclick (Post 22076300)
You may have to finesse the insert if the steerer has two different ID's, as it would if reinforced at the bottom. If it is, try to find a quill stem that has an ID the same as the smaller steerer ID, use that as a sleeve for your bar.

Thanks for the heads up! :thumb:


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