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#27
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I don't agree that the growing use of homophones is efficient (your - you're, defunked - defunct, etc.). I think it is the manifestation of linguistic ignorance and it troubles me. I believe that the linguistic and the conceptual are linked and that a diminution of the former leads to the diminution of the latter.
#28
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Personally I dislike the use of apostrophes in this way. I tend, too, to eschew the use of "but" to begin a sentence.
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I don't agree that the growing use of homophones is efficient (your - you're, defunked - defunct, etc.). I think it is the manifestation of linguistic ignorance and it troubles me. I believe that the linguistic and the conceptual are linked and that a diminution of the former leads to the diminution of the latter.
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I don't agree that the growing use of homophones is efficient (your - you're, defunked - defunct, etc.). I think it is the manifestation of linguistic ignorance and it troubles me. I believe that the linguistic and the conceptual are linked and that a diminution of the former leads to the diminution of the latter.
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From: Lancaster County, PA
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Or witness the growing trend of turning nouns into verbs instead of selecting the right verb ("impacts" being one of my least favorite examples). I agree that impoverishment of language limits expression, especially of subtle and complex phenomena. On the other hand, language isn't static, and renewed complexity does tend to emerge from homogeneity in a ying/yang sort of way.
Edit: Sorry, didn't mean to comment on myself, at least in public.
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I agree with Picchio that perhaps you just don't get it.
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Or, when the distinction between the literal and the figurative is lost. "Literally" now seems to mean something like "amazingly".
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1) I prefer period correct builds (but don't insist on them.)
2) I am not a grammar marm online.
3) My comments about not getting it had nothing to do with whether or not the King's English is falling into the abyss. In fact, JunkYardBike and I are now BFF's (note use of apostrophe) since his well-known "Southern Hemisphere" post. My man does get it.
4) I have extensively studied linguistics and, especially, semiotics, but that ain't why I'm here.
5) Some of my best friends are homophones.
6) Good point about "literal" - "literally" often means what "figuratively" used to - "The peloton literally exploded." Sometimes, though, the semantic content of a word expands to embrace a former metaphorical usage - in which case the figurative becomes the literal. This kind of thing happens all the time.
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NOT arguing about punctuation and syntax. 


