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Old 07-29-14, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by noglider
I have a new SA drum brake front hub. It's gorgeous, and it works well, too.
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Which hub on what rim? I am researching to built a wheel with my first drum brake hub.
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Originally Posted by loubapache
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Which hub on what rim? I am researching to built a wheel with my first drum brake hub.
It's the X-FD, with the 70mm drum. Be careful before you buy. You may be wise to get the combo hub that has both the drum brake and the dynamo.

It's on a 20" aluminum, on my Raleigh Twenty, which may live its life as a project bike, not a rider.
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Not sure if this is better here or in the "Where'd you ride today?" thread but just out for a lovely evening ride (perfect weather) and came across the following scene:



Local pipe band practicing just across the river from where I live. I could almost feel the Humber jump forward as it heard sounds from (almost) home
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After vowing to rid myself of my men's frame '78 Superbe because of recurring crank and bottom bracket issues, (Raleigh threading...) and telling myself to never again touch a 3 speed, I have that bike, an olive green women's '72 Superbe sitting in my living room and a light blue '80 women's Sports sitting in my storage locker. The ladies superbe paint was rough and I used it as a donor bike for some choice bits my men's frame 23" '78 would have liked.

Suddenly I had enough parts to make the ladies superbe whole again, so I started lacing on some alloy rims. After all this beautification it felt a sin to hang all these nice parts on a frame with poor paint. Well, Saturday rolls around and a ladies sports pops up on Craigslist for $15. It has some rust issues from sitting under a porch but the frame paint is beautiful and it can donate some of its nicer parts to make a whole bike.

Long story short I can't seem to rid myself of these things and they follow me home.
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Here is my BSA with a 1948 AW hub. I have a more detailed post here: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...tml?highlight=

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Time to pull this thread up by it's bootstraps...

This beautiful Dutch girl stopped by my shop today and she is English powered... by a Sturmey Archer 4 speed (alloy hub shell). Her owner said that he bought this for his girlfriend in Holland after the war (1946) when bicycles became available and then he and his wife (the girlfriend) emigrated to Canada.

He said it has been sitting in his garage ever since she passed away in 2009 and now he is looking to find this girl a new home.

The condition is astounding and she rides as new.











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Sweet! Unfortunately Magneet is a fallen flag now.

I have a very similar chain ring cover on my Columbia Commuter II which just happens to have been built by... Magneet!

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Originally Posted by wahoonc
Sweet! Unfortunately Magneet is a fallen flag now.

I have a very similar chain ring cover on my Columbia Commuter II which just happens to have been built by... Magneet!

Aaron

Magneet seems to have been bought by Batavus in 1969 and seems to have been well regarded for building "lightweight" bicycles... and the Magneet roadster was lighter than a comparable Raleigh which would speak to it having lighter tubes since the rest of the parts were very similar.

The Columbia is super cool.
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Are you keeping her? She is Magneet!

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Are you keeping her? She is Magneet!
She just stopped by for an appraisal...
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I picked up an old raleigh ltd-3 last week and am not sure how I want to fix it up. This thread has too many great ideas.
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Ditch the steel rims and you lighten most of the weight of all-steel bicycles! With their mild carbon tubes, they will never ride as light as a road bike but they're heads and shoulders above the awful gaspipe bicycles of the day.
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I'm not gung-Ho about replacing the steel rims with alloy. Not all of us notice the difference from the weight savings. I say if your steel rims are straight, don't change them unless you need your brakes to work well when wet.
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Speaking of steel rims, another steel shod 3 steed made it 's way into my stable. It's a Raleigh RSW 16 Compact. 1966 SA AW hub date. The tires and cables were shot but everything else cleaned up almost mint. I got the rare white vinyl pannier bag with it too. I paid $150 cdn at a local vintage shop for it. The owner had it out on the sidewalk for two weeks and no takers. I'd love to find a pair of NOS Dunlop 16x2 cream tires for it. The black cheapies actually make the chrome pop. I used black cable housing to tie it in but would switch to white in a heartbeat. The Sturmey Archer twist grip shifter is super retro cool. Believe it or not, I haven't folded it yet.


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Originally Posted by noglider
I'm not gung-Ho about replacing the steel rims with alloy. Not all of us notice the difference from the weight savings. I say if your steel rims are straight, don't change them unless you need your brakes to work well when wet.
As a year-round cyclist in the Northwest, I changed the rims on my Raleigh Wayfarer specifically for braking when wet, and it definitely made a difference. I first only had a front wheel built around a new dynohub (not Dynohub), and kept the rear steel until it started breaking too many spokes. If you live in a drier climate and rarely/never ride in the rain, then it's not as big of a deal. One benefit of steel over alloy is no brake dust.
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Yes, yes, yes. I said "unless." In other words, if you're doing it for the braking, it's a huge advantage. If you're doing it to make the bike feel lighter, you might be disappointed.
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Are there any good suggestions for rim replacement (alloy or steel) for the old Raleigh rims (chrome steel with the satin section in the middle where the spokes are). I'd like to replace the rims on the Humber (because the braking surface was quite rusty and after cleaning still looks rough), but the "two tone" rim is one aspect of the character of the bike I'd prefer not to lose. BTW - rusty steel with Kool Stops work pretty well in the wet!
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Originally Posted by wahoonc
I am waiting until Monday before I call someone to go get that for me...

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Hey I'm just checking in to "the thread"...

Did you get that '37 Sports?
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Sun Ringle makes basically correct rims for these in alloy or chrome steel the cost of new rims and likely spokes and the time trouble relacing isn't really merrited unless the current ones have major issues. You won't get major improvement over the vintage rims. If you looking for a lighter more nibble ride with great brakes a vintage 3 speed isn't the way to go you may be better off looking for a different bike.
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Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate
Hey I'm just checking in to "the thread"...

Did you get that '37 Sports?
Nope... disappeared over the weekend. I did get a 1954 Shelby Traveler though...

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Originally Posted by zukahn1
Sun Ringle makes basically correct rims for these in alloy or chrome steel the cost of new rims and likely spokes and the time trouble relacing isn't really merrited unless the current ones have major issues. You won't get major improvement over the vintage rims. If you looking for a lighter more nibble ride with great brakes a vintage 3 speed isn't the way to go you may be better off looking for a different bike.
Can you point me more specifically at the rims you mean? I am not looking to simply replace the rims for lightness etc - its because the rims were/are very rusted on the braking surface and I think they could use replacement - but I wanted a source of the two-finish style like original (chrome braking surface and outer 1/3 of each side, satin steel (or alloy) in the centre 1/3 where the spoke holes are. Everything I saw on the Sun Ringle site was very modern (even the popular CR18, which is NOT what I was looking for). Is there a source of OEM? Also, I'd need 40 hole rear.
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I was thinking of correct Cr-18 or the retros not sure of number. As for finding a 40 rear your going to have a tough time you while likely need to score Ebay and hope. While your there you may want to look for a vintage or newer complete set may be easier than finding a 40.
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Originally Posted by noglider
I'm not gung-Ho about replacing the steel rims with alloy. Not all of us notice the difference from the weight savings. I say if your steel rims are straight, don't change them unless you need your brakes to work well when wet.
That's precisely the reason I replaced them on my Superbe. I find it nice to be able to stop when I need to stop.
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Originally Posted by markk900
Can you point me more specifically at the rims you mean? [. . .] I'd need 40 hole rear.
Here you go:

Sun CR-18 26 x 1-3/8 40-hole Polished Rim, fits EA-3/590 ISO
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Amazon.com : Sun CR-18 26 x 1-3/8 36-hole Polished Rim, fits EA-3/590 ISO : Bike Rims : Sports & Outdoors

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