Record shifters - braze-on to clamp on swap. Not as simple as I thought...
04-10-10 | 10:39 AM
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Record shifters - braze-on to clamp on swap. Not as simple as I thought...
Wizards of the vintage Campy, I need some info.
In front of me I have one Campagnolo shifter clamp on band. Later style w/o the cable guide rings. I also have all the parts needed to mount a set of Record shifters to a set of braze on tabs.
When mixed - there is no joy.
So, where have I gone wrong. Do I have he wrong clamp band, the wrong compression plates, and how shall I remedy this. Thanks!
// feels like a noob again!
In front of me I have one Campagnolo shifter clamp on band. Later style w/o the cable guide rings. I also have all the parts needed to mount a set of Record shifters to a set of braze on tabs.
When mixed - there is no joy.
So, where have I gone wrong. Do I have he wrong clamp band, the wrong compression plates, and how shall I remedy this. Thanks!
// feels like a noob again!
04-10-10 | 11:07 AM
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where is my cataloge 19 when I need it! check on velobase but I think you different washers between the clamp and the lever. also if you by chance have newer C-Rec era clamp I do not think it will work at all.
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04-10-10 | 11:56 AM
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he is MR Velobase? so I told him to check his own site? LOL
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04-10-10 | 12:38 PM
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04-10-10 | 01:59 PM
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04-10-10 | 02:11 PM
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Ok, here's the clamp band I've got in front of me (all nice and cleaned up now!)
I also have parts 604/1, 603, 174, 602 and 661 in the catalog scan above from the shifters I had previously.
I also have parts 604/1, 603, 174, 602 and 661 in the catalog scan above from the shifters I had previously.
04-10-10 | 02:16 PM
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That looks like it should work, Jon, unless the stops sit lower then NR (looks like a late NR clamp to me). Did you make sure not to install the #661 washers when putting it back together?
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04-10-10 | 02:54 PM
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Without the inboard washer the screw bottoms out before there is any tension on the lever from the friction plates. It just goes flip-idy flop-idy. I would appear that the post on the clamp is a bit too long. With the outboard compression washer & lever in place, I tried to use my thumb to act as the outer screw and I can't get enough pressure on the lever to generate any amount of friction on the lever that would actually hold it in place. It seems like I need a very thin inner washer to take up a little space between the clamp's plate and the lever.
04-10-10 | 03:53 PM
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Without the inboard washer the screw bottoms out before there is any tension on the lever from the friction plates. It just goes flip-idy flop-idy. I would appear that the post on the clamp is a bit too long. With the outboard compression washer & lever in place, I tried to use my thumb to act as the outer screw and I can't get enough pressure on the lever to generate any amount of friction on the lever that would actually hold it in place. It seems like I need a very thin inner washer to take up a little space between the clamp's plate and the lever.
I have to go on VB and double-check what the Victory/Triomphe clamps look like.
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04-10-10 | 05:23 PM
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I'm thinking what I've got here is the later Victory/Triomphe/C-Rec clamp. I've looked through the catalogs and don't see any examples of the super/nuovo record clamp I can find includes those cable guides.
04-10-10 | 07:15 PM
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