Buyer beware on this one
12-09-10 | 09:05 PM
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Buyer beware on this one
12-09-10 | 09:24 PM
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Yeah that's ugly, at least he accurately described the damage "sawn half pipe"...and still "good" condition, 6/10. Lol, this is what you've got to deal with on ebay I guess. I wonder if it's worth flagging, or whatever the ebay equivolent is.
12-09-10 | 09:24 PM
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You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve
12-09-10 | 09:35 PM
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Sort of.
"Reynolds 531 tubing. Size: 58 cm center/center - Lenght 58.5. SIMPLEX pads - French thread - STRONGLIGHT headset - sawn half pipe."
Almost presented as a feature or benefit. I mean, what the heck is a sawn half pipe??? And the auction starts at $170. Really ridiculous.
"Reynolds 531 tubing. Size: 58 cm center/center - Lenght 58.5. SIMPLEX pads - French thread - STRONGLIGHT headset - sawn half pipe."
Almost presented as a feature or benefit. I mean, what the heck is a sawn half pipe??? And the auction starts at $170. Really ridiculous.
12-09-10 | 09:59 PM
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It sounds like the ad was written by someone whos primary language isnt English.
He was trying to say "tube sawed in half" versus 'sawed half pipe'. At least he's honest..... 6/10 is optimistic. I guess its a '6' because there's no rust or dents.
He was trying to say "tube sawed in half" versus 'sawed half pipe'. At least he's honest..... 6/10 is optimistic. I guess its a '6' because there's no rust or dents.
12-09-10 | 10:03 PM
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wasn't this up for sale before? as scary as it sounds I thought we saw something like this before?
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12-10-10 | 01:35 AM
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Damn, I lost the key to my lock.
Well, you could just saw through that U-lock.
No, it will be much faster if I just...
... duh... hey, wait a minute!
Oops!
Wow, Dude!
Well, you could just saw through that U-lock. No, it will be much faster if I just...
... duh... hey, wait a minute!
Oops!
Wow, Dude!
12-10-10 | 03:07 AM
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why would anyone do that??
The frame I saw destroyed in this manner was a Gardin that came fitted with Campy Cobolto brakes. The shop owner offered me the brake set for sixty dollars and I said no thanks. Who would ever want a set of brakes with costume jewelery attached? I feel the same way about the stupid Sekine headbadge with a phony stone in the middle.
12-10-10 | 06:01 AM
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One of the local bicycle shops in my area does this sort of thing. When they pitch an old frame set, first the saw the top tube in half. Their argument was that they did not want to be legally responsible incase someone took the frame out of the dumpster, built up a bike and then got hurt on it. And, by the way...
12-10-10 | 07:29 AM
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I agree, that bike shop needs to re-think its approach. What a waste.
Go figure!
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12-10-10 | 07:45 AM
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If I recall correctly from earlier e-Bay postings, this seller is located in France.
12-10-10 | 07:47 AM
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I agree, that bike shop needs to re-think its approach. What a waste.
As long as one does so, to achieve the aerodynamic saddle position, featured on this customized Raleigh, then, the hacksaw to the frame set thing, is just fine with me. Note also the backward "cold set" fork set that helps to quicken handling, on this finely crafted, and well thought out, racer.
And, then there is the really stupid part, when the owner tried to disguise the nature of the machine, with traditional recreation handlebar and brake lever positioning. Sadly, the rider's arm pits tended to trap air, often times lifting the front wheel off of the ground at speeds exceeding 50 to 55 mph.
Anyway, just wanted to offer up some defense for the Bicycle Hacksaw Mechanic presented in the OP.
Of course, having a competent welder on hand, as did the creator of the wind defying Raleigh "Grand Prix", is an absolute must.
Only in Canada, eh!-)
12-10-10 | 07:55 AM
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The seller is French. I picked up a NOS saddle from them (one of the Veulta Bassano 531 railed ones). Had a great experience, but i knew what i was getting. This one... again, they buyer knows what they're getting. I don't think the seller is doing anything wrong.
12-10-10 | 08:39 AM
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Unless, of course, there is a practical reason for hack sawing a frame set!
As long as one does so, to achieve the aerodynamic saddle position, featured on this customized Raleigh, then, the hacksaw to the frame set thing, is just fine with me. Note also the backward "cold set" fork set that helps to quicken handling, on this finely crafted, and well thought out, racer.
As long as one does so, to achieve the aerodynamic saddle position, featured on this customized Raleigh, then, the hacksaw to the frame set thing, is just fine with me. Note also the backward "cold set" fork set that helps to quicken handling, on this finely crafted, and well thought out, racer.
whoa. Just... whoa.
12-10-10 | 08:54 AM
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On Ebay in the USA, there is a mandatory statement in the "Details" to the effect of NEW (in packaging), NEW (as described), USED, or USED (for repair, salvage, not working).
This Seller is not applying this statement, but he should. But then if he is in France, the mechanics and rules of the French website may be different, and not require such a statement. . . .
This Seller is not applying this statement, but he should. But then if he is in France, the mechanics and rules of the French website may be different, and not require such a statement. . . .