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Bianchigirll 08-04-12 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by Conan (Post 14564763)
TSX frame with EL fork. Veloche group... Only numbers I could find are 59e901c


http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...7-19174052.jpg

Thes came out as bikes and frame onlies in '92/3ish. They were very nice looking and I always wanted to try one out. It should be a great rider with that SuperSet frame. A real fork crown, even something real sloping like a Zeus 2000 would have looked a bit better but EL ones were pretty sweet.

Pars 08-04-12 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 14565577)
I do like that the painter used a generic columbus respray decal. However the other decals don't do much to pin down a time frame sinc ethe TT model decal (what does it say anyway?) would be an '87 model year thing and the Bianchi decals look '92ish and later. Perhaps T-Mar can have a look and make sense of the serial number. any chance there are before pics?

I'll ask him about before pics, but I don't think he cares much... he likes the frame and it is light (lighter than my RRA is or a Pro) and it rides very nicely. The top tube isn't a decal, the framebuilder put my brother's name there. Th decals didn't look like anything I viewed on the bulgier.net site from 83-87, so you are probably correct that they are later vintage (unless the frame is actually early '90s as well). They look pretty similar to those on Conan's TSX bike previous... nice bike Conan!

callig 08-04-12 10:59 AM

I still think that frame is identical to mine same fork same dropouts same braze ons my s/n is 6R on one side the other is 9510. The R is indistinct and may be a B mine was purchased as a frameset in Calgary in the fall of 87 it has Bianchi Formula one Columbus db tubing in an 87 Catalogue it looks like they have Formula II so I would favour an 86 date on this and my bike

Pars 08-04-12 01:14 PM

Yes, yours looks pretty much identical callig. If I were betting, I would say '86 Super Leggera

http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Bianchi-86/3.jpg
http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Bianchi-86/3.jpg

Bianchigirll 08-04-12 03:20 PM

That is the '88 catalog page. They have the catalogs mixed up on the Bulgier site. The Chorus group did not hit the market until the '88 model year perhaps on a very few very late '87 custome/semicustome machines. Also if you could blow it up you would see the script type Bianchi on the stay caps rather than a print one.

Strebor 08-04-12 03:22 PM

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Mine has a serial on the front, 667059. I can't see any other numbers.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=265467

callig 08-04-12 03:57 PM

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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=265486I believe my bike is a celeste Giro as the Bianchi Columbus stickers match mine although the only difference between a Super Leggera and a Giro are components and tube set

pmb1957 08-07-12 12:29 PM

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I'm still trying to find out exactly which model my Bianchi is (see posts on Page 18), and came across this page.

This frame is identical to mine, from the engraved head tube badge to the distinctive brake bridge (clearly visible in photos 1 & 3).

Koldfusen comments half way down the page that it is not a Argentin model as these have black around the engraved head tube badge, and black forks and chain stays (searching the web seems to confirm this).

He also says that

The real defining aspects of what makes an X4... because there were a variety of subtle differences over the years.... is that they were made from SLX (or TSX), used Campy drop-outs and had an ENGRAVED head badge
(BTW Koldfusen has a great collection of Bianchi pics on flickr)

My frame has Campy drop-outs too !

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=266037

Any X4 experts out there that could confirm or deny that it is an X4? Or does anyone have a collection of Bianchi manuals that might help (the only one I can find around the right year is 1987)?

Interesting that the bike linked above also has Delta brakes. I also wonder if the Ergo shifters on my frame are a later addition?

Thanks
Peter

callig 08-18-12 12:38 AM

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Here is a picture of my Bianchi when I first built it up in the spring of 1988
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...5&d=1345271877

Bianchigirll 08-18-12 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by pmb1957 (Post 14577012)
I'm still trying to find out exactly which model my Bianchi is (see posts on Page 18), and came across this page.

This frame is identical to mine, from the engraved head tube badge to the distinctive brake bridge (clearly visible in photos 1 & 3).

Koldfusen comments half way down the page that it is not a Argentin model as these have black around the engraved head tube badge, and black forks and chain stays (searching the web seems to confirm this).

He also says that (BTW Koldfusen has a great collection of Bianchi pics on flickr)

My frame has Campy drop-outs too !

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=266037

Any X4 experts out there that could confirm or deny that it is an X4? Or does anyone have a collection of Bianchi manuals that might help (the only one I can find around the right year is 1987)?

Interesting that the bike linked above also has Delta brakes. I also wonder if the Ergo shifters on my frame are a later addition?

Thanks
Peter

OK Here is what I know.. In 84/85 a Genteman in Hayward CA signed a deal to become the exclusive importer/ distributer of Bianchi in the US creating 'Bianchi USA'. From that time all Bianchis sold (well new ones that came in through the correct channels anyway) in the US came through Bianchi US and had a huge design influence from the Calif staff and were different from the rest of the Bianchis around the world.

In in '87 Bianchi USA catalog a bike called (now I do not have my catalogs with me and won't see them for another month so bear with me if I make a mistake) Specialisma X-4. It was a fancier version of a Mondaile and featured a SLX frame, rather than SL, and pantographed C-record parts and had the rollled/engraved headbadge and the X-4 on brake bridge, but was Celeste not Celeste/black. That is the one and only X-4 I know of being cataloged and shipped into the US.

As we all know in '86 Argentin won the world championships, and I believe the Bianchi he rode had that now infamous Celeste/black paint scheme. To my knowledge and scouring of the catalogs there was no US version of a Argentin X-4 but Bianchi USA did release a midlevel bike in an "Argentin Paint" of Celeste/black. we have all see dozens of the black X-4s and while they must have been on the international market the ones imported to the states were never listed in a catalog.

IMHO if your brake bridge is stamped X-4 you have a X-4 if not you have a very nice and slightly fancy Mondaile (or whatever the top model is called in the UK). To me the term Argentin refers to the pain only not really the bike.

I think you need to look about and find a Bianchi dealer that has been around for awhiule and see if they have any catalogs from the era.

Here is the man himself and according to Bulgier this is from the '85 catalog

http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Bianchi-85/3.jpg

Bianchigirll 08-18-12 04:05 AM

This seems to have cleaned up very nicely and quick too. Were the pics older? It sure is a beautiful Bianchi whatever it is!!

http://www.pedalroom.com/p/bianchi-x...cord-395_1.jpg

http://www.pedalroom.com/p/bianchi-x...cord-395_3.jpg

http://www.pedalroom.com/p/bianchi-x...cord-395_2.jpg

Bianchigirll 08-18-12 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by callig (Post 14566987)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=265486I believe my bike is a celeste Giro as the Bianchi Columbus stickers match mine although the only difference between a Super Leggera and a Giro are components and tube set

"The only difference between a Giro and Super Leggera is the tubeset and the components"? Only? while that seense to make sense it is true of all bikes isn't it? I mean a Trek Madone and Huffy are the same the only difference being the tubing and the components right?


Originally Posted by callig (Post 14621125)
Here is a picture of my Bianchi when I first built it up in the spring of 1988
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...5&d=1345271877

again the pics posted on the Bulgier site claiming to be an '86 catalog are the '88 and only half, maybe less, is actually posted. I don't really see how your bike looks like the Giro when the decals are clearly different, the Giro has a complete Victory group and your bike has a mix of what appears to be Modolo brakes, a 600 crankset and Victory deraileur.

In the '85 to 88 timeframe Bianchi used 3 different Celeste colored Colu,mbus/Bianchi tubing decals. Special, Formula 1 (I have never seen a pic of this posted anywhere but the catalog says it was used in '86) and Formula 2. Knowing which one you have will help narrow down the year of your bike. I am also trying to find the pics of your bike in its current state.

pmb1957 08-18-12 08:07 AM

Biachigirll - that's not my bike, it was a link to one that has (I think) the same frame as mine (and Delta brakes too).

Thanks for the other detailed reply. I'm in the UK so which models were imported to the US isn't relevant in this case. Good advice to try to find a Bianchi dealer who has been around for a while though, I'll get on it.

callig 08-18-12 02:33 PM

Hi Bianchigirl,
To clear up the picture I bought the frame set only for sale in Calgary Alberta in the fall of 87 . I set it up with what I had and what I bought over the winter. I bought a C-Record seat post and Rolls saddle Victory derailleurs. Shimano 600 Brakes a 600 crank and cenelli stem and handlebars. so it won't be in a catelogue It is Columbus Formula one so it has to come from the time when Bianchi made Formula one frames. Hope this clears up the picture. There is something written on the top tube but unreadable and it has long disappeared from the bike. Also there is no World Champion sticker on the frame. Thank You for sharing your wealth of knowledge on this forum You certainly know your Bianchis

Darles2012 08-26-12 11:38 AM

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Yesterday was a lucky day for me...a neighbour was putting out this Bianchi for the scrap man (crazy right) and I managed to take it off his hands. It's in ok condition, the only problem being some minor rust spots and the usual muck and grime. I don't know much about Bianchis so was looking for someone to impart some knowledge on the piece.

The frame has Racing Comp decals. Frame size 55/56. Cr-Mo Tubes and Forks. Capognolo Mirage Front and rear mech.

There is a serial number under the BB: WA8063168A. Also a sticker that says "Cycle Europe UK, Bedford" and a date of 1992, so i'm guessing it's early 90's but would like a little more info if anyone has any skills in the Bianchi department.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269489http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269490http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269491http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269492http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269493http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269495http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269496

dcee604 08-31-12 08:04 PM

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Ah, my turn in need of a Bianchi identified please!
Serial number is H9A14315, has Sun Tour EDGE components, dia compe brakes, suzue hubs on Araya 7000 rims. Thanks in advance!
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=270447http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=270448http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=270449

Bianchigirll 09-01-12 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by dcee604 (Post 14678594)
Ah, my turn in need of a Bianchi identified please!
Serial number is H9A14315, has Sun Tour EDGE components, dia compe brakes, suzue hubs on Araya 7000 rims. Thanks in advance!
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=270447http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=270448http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=270449

Hi dcee604, welcome to the forums. I am not able to get to my catalogs for another 2 weeks (out of town for work) but from what I can tell this looks like an '88ish Strada LX or Premio. Your Canadain bikes were different from ours then but I should be able to get pretty close.

Bump this thread about the 15/16th to remind me to look it up.

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...8&d=1346465027

Bianchigirll 09-01-12 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Darles2012 (Post 14654836)
Yesterday was a lucky day for me...a neighbour was putting out this Bianchi for the scrap man (crazy right) and I managed to take it off his hands. It's in ok condition, the only problem being some minor rust spots and the usual muck and grime. I don't know much about Bianchis so was looking for someone to impart some knowledge on the piece.

The frame has Racing Comp decals. Frame size 55/56. Cr-Mo Tubes and Forks. Capognolo Mirage Front and rear mech.

There is a serial number under the BB: WA8063168A. Also a sticker that says "Cycle Europe UK, Bedford" and a date of 1992, so i'm guessing it's early 90's but would like a little more info if anyone has any skills in the Bianchi department.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269489http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269490http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269491http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269492http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269493http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269495http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=269496

Hello Darles welcome to the forums. Your neighbor was putting that in the.... what do you call it the tip? Wish my neighbors threw out stuff like that, all I ever see is Huffys, Raleighs and those paramounts nothing much looking over.

Anyway not a bad pickup. Is there a model name on the other side of the TT? That sticker with the date sounds like a shop sticker but '92 seems a bit early for Mirage w/ Ergo shifters to me.

I suspect this Alloro or whatever they called the entry level race bikes over there about that time.

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...9&d=1346002066

Are the Ergor levers Mirage? Does it fit you?

Darles2012 09-03-12 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 14680614)
Hello Darles welcome to the forums. Your neighbor was putting that in the.... what do you call it the tip? Wish my neighbors threw out stuff like that, all I ever see is Huffys, Raleighs and those paramounts nothing much looking over.

Anyway not a bad pickup. Is there a model name on the other side of the TT? That sticker with the date sounds like a shop sticker but '92 seems a bit early for Mirage w/ Ergo shifters to me.

I suspect this Alloro or whatever they called the entry level race bikes over there about that time.

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...9&d=1346002066

Are the Ergor levers Mirage? Does it fit you?

Bianchigirll..thank's for your reply. There isn't a model name on the top tube. All it says is "Racing Comp" as shown in the pic. I looked again at the sticker and the date 1992 actually refers to British Standards safety mark/number that it conforms to. It certainly looks later than 92' as you said.

The levers are Mirage and it fits ok. Haven't had a chance to ride it too much as been busy cleaning it up.

dcee604 09-18-12 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 14680574)
Hi dcee604, welcome to the forums. I am not able to get to my catalogs for another 2 weeks (out of town for work) but from what I can tell this looks like an '88ish Strada LX or Premio. Your Canadain bikes were different from ours then but I should be able to get pretty close.

Bump this thread about the 15/16th to remind me to look it up.

Thanks Bianchigirl! And here I am bumping it up...:thumb:
Yeah, us Canadians probably didn't get the nicer bikes....hence why there is so much cross border shopping!

Phase 09-20-12 11:40 PM

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Hi,

I just posted a thread with more info and pics, but I have a burgundy Bianchi Limited 54cm with original orange bar tape, made in Japan, Shimano 105 and 606SIS components, Dia Compe brakes, Suntour gear levers. I'd love to know what year it was made. Decals seem to me like 1981-1983 but the components are more like 1984-1985 or later...

SN: AS24162

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=274053http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=274054http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=274056

T-Mar 09-21-12 11:58 AM

Phase, your bicycle is a 1982 model.

spencewine 10-10-12 07:18 AM

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Bianchi Volpe
SN: H8N69759

I believe this is a either a 1988 or 1989 model, but I'm leaning towards 1989 as I believe the 1988 model to be celeste and not black. The only thing si that the H"8"N would suggest it was manufactured in 1988. A google search on 1989 Bianchi produces some other black/red block lettering models as well:

89' Bianchi Strada
http://www.flickr.com/photos/woil/60...ool-bianchiusa

Any thoughts? I have not seen another Volpe in the color scheme in my internet searches, it seems uncommon. Currently, I've got it set-up as my daily commuter to work and I really love it. Rides like a dream and I wouldn't hesitate using it for fully loaded touring if I didn't already have a Trek 520 set-up for that purpose.

Bianchigirll 10-10-12 08:39 AM

There are suttle difference between the '88 and '89 I would have to look it up next week when I get home. T-Mar may know it. I do not recall any Volpe coming in Celeste in those days.

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...7&d=1349874381

boulderide 01-08-13 10:19 PM

hey everyone,

Just recently became the owner of what looks to be a mid 1980's bianchi but I can not be sure. It was made it Japan (I know this because it says it on the frame which is completely original) yet I cannot find the serial number. Any suggestions on where to find this so I might be able to find some specs for this bike? I am extremely new to bikes and need some help so I can find parts for this frame.


Thanks!


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