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Jayrev67 09-21-14 09:09 AM

Bianchigirl

Seatpost is Sakae
BB is Sugino
Brakes are Diacompe Royal Compe 2 which shows me it is post 86.
Front D is Campy
rear D is Shimano 600
Regarding tubing since there are no stickers, I am not certain if it is Ishiwata, though I would hope so. I have read a lot about how Bianchi moved back and forth from Japan to Italy using Columbus, Ishiwata and even Tange for base models but I don't know since the typical stickers are not present.

Bianchigirll 09-21-14 10:27 AM

Why were you looking in the Japanese catalogs?

That light silver/black paint scheme looks like a '92 Campione. I think Bianchi was still using a company called Miredia or something like that around then. Nice looking bike looks to have seen little use.

greenmachine1 09-24-14 07:28 PM

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I need help IDing this old Bianchi Sport. Bronze head badge is original to the bike. If anyone has and idea please enlighten me.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=408268http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=408269http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=408270

greenmachine1 09-24-14 07:31 PM

I need help IDing this old Bianchi Sport. Bronze head badge is original to the bike. If anyone has and idea please enlighten me serial number is 2G57242.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=408268http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=408269http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=408270

David Newton 09-24-14 07:58 PM

Hi Green.
Nice looking bike, not all rusty either.
Since you know it is a Bianchi Sport, you are really looking for a year, right? There are usually some date codes on the parts, like the rear hub, brakes, pedals and such. Those will be a good place to start. You bike looks 60's.

greenmachine1 09-26-14 03:28 PM

Yes I have talked to some others and Dec. of 62. I have been in formed it is going up for sale. How much do you think it is worth??

armstrong101 09-27-14 09:58 AM

Quick Q.

I have a couple late-80s Bianchis. They have their manufacture month/year stamped into the BB shell. I know if its stamped "8", this corresponds to 1988. So does this make it a 1988 or a 1989 bicycle? If I list my bikes in my signature, do I refer to it as 1988 or 1989 because I believe if it was manufactured in 1988, it appears in the 1989 catalogue. I know this because one of the bikes is stamped "7" denoting 1987, but my bike decals don't match the bikes featured in the 1987 catalogue - they match the 1988 ones (when the Bianchi had the line go through the word).

Bianchigirll 09-27-14 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by armstrong101 (Post 17166850)
Quick Q.

I have a couple late-80s Bianchis. They have their manufacture month/year stamped into the BB shell. I know if its stamped "8", this corresponds to 1988. So does this make it a 1988 or a 1989 bicycle? If I list my bikes in my signature, do I refer to it as 1988 or 1989 because I believe if it was manufactured in 1988, it appears in the 1989 catalogue. I know this because one of the bikes is stamped "7" denoting 1987, but my bike decals don't match the bikes featured in the 1987 catalogue - they match the 1988 ones (when the Bianchi had the line go through the word).

Hello welcome to the forums. Can you post some pics? Are you and the bikes in the US? Are you looking at US catalogs? The decal with the line through Bianchi was used on US market bikes in '88 and '89 but some of those upperend models were cataloged (US market) for '90 and of course available until exhausted. I don't know that you can go strictly by the numbering on the BB to tell the model year.

armstrong101 09-27-14 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 17166914)
Hello welcome to the forums. Can you post some pics? Are you and the bikes in the US? Are you looking at US catalogs? The decal with the line through Bianchi was used on US market bikes in '88 and '89 but some of those upperend models were cataloged (US market) for '90 and of course available until exhausted. I don't know that you can go strictly by the numbering on the BB to tell the model year.

Thanks B-girl for the reply. I'm a pretty avid reader of these forums (I have a more used profile at roadbikereview) and have enjoyed your knowledge/contributions. I'm in Canada.

I'm not sure if I have the permissions to post pictures/links yet but I'll get it done. Bike not beside me right now - I'll take photos and post somehow. This wasn't an issue until someone posted a link to the full PDF version of a 1987 English (US?) catalogue. The font on the decals were of the broken-parallelogram format. I have a burgundy-red near NOS CDI with the number "7" in the BB shell - which I always thought was a 1987 bike. But it has the line through the font. So that led me to believe that it was sold as a 1988 bike. I also have a CDI with an "8" in the shell, and a Quattro with a "9" in the shell.

Bianchigirll 09-27-14 11:06 AM

You should be able to post pics, I do it direct from my computer, click the 'go advance' button the click on the paperclip.

AH Canada...... The Burgandy CdI sounds interesting. The Quattro equipped CdI is very likely an '89. In '85 Bianchi USA opened shop and controlled the import and to some degree the specs on Bianchis for the US market. In '88/89 they also made an agreement to import the Canadian bikes as well which were mostly just the same bikes as for the US market.

'89 CdI with the Quattro was an OK bike with the Cromor frame but I think the finish on the components was a little weak. In case you don't already know, the Quattro group was a collaboration between Modolo, Ofmega, Dia Compe and Suntour, I suspect at request of Bianchi to come up with a nice looking group to hopefully compete with 105.

armstrong101 09-27-14 12:05 PM

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armstrong101 09-28-14 08:15 PM

OK - here's the pics of my bikes with their BB shells.

This is the 1987 English-language Bianchi catalogue. It clearly says 1987 so it is definitely cataloguing "1987" bicycles.

http://velobase.com/Resource_Tools/D...987Bianchi.pdf

The burgundy-red CDI says "hi" and "G.7".
The celeste CDI says "hi" and "8.I".
The Quattro says "9.D".

Given the burgundy-red CDI, my conclusion is it was made in 1987 and marketed as a 1988 bicycle.
Using the same logic, it would seem appropriate to conclude the celeste CDI was made in 1988 and possibly marketed as a 1989 bicycle, and the Quattro was made in 1989 and possibly sold as a 1990 bicycle.

(ignore the mess in the background. I'm in the midst of a move...)

armstrong101 10-02-14 11:49 AM

So any thoughts on this? My reason for posting to this thread was to say that I have a "7" stamped CDI, whose decals do not match those in the 1987 catalog. They match the 1988 catalog. So do I claim this "7" bike as a 1987 bike or a 1988 bike? Whatever the decision, does this apply stamped "8" bike and stamped "9" bike as well?

armstrong101 10-02-14 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 17167025)
'89 CdI with the Quattro was an OK bike with the Cromor frame but I think the finish on the components was a little weak. In case you don't already know, the Quattro group was a collaboration between Modolo, Ofmega, Dia Compe and Suntour, I suspect at request of Bianchi to come up with a nice looking group to hopefully compete with 105.

My Quattro is all original and I know what you are talking about. "Quattro" appears everywhere on the bike - on the hubs, the RD, the FD, the crank arms, the shifters. Gipiemme seatpost.

I'm not crazy about the groupset, and you're right - compared to campy the finish is very poor (especially the hubs). But since everything is original and complete, I'm not sure what to do with this bike. I wouldn't mind seeing it in all campy, otherwise I might just sell it all original as that might reclaim the greatest value. It's a 50/51 cm so it's a good size to sell.

Bianchigirll 10-02-14 12:10 PM

I don't know how I missed your post over the weekend.

Yes it is very possible production was in '88. Most companies had, well at least back then, had their lineup for next year set and were building bikes for the show and fall shipping by mid August.

The burgundy says Campione de Italia? we didn't get that color down here. I am pretty sure those are both '88s owing to the decal style and the round world champ sticker.

Just to throw another curve ball at you, the catalog posted is an English language version but also the Bianchi USA version. Your bikes were slightly different.

armstrong101 10-02-14 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 17181518)
The burgundy says Campione de Italia? we didn't get that color down here. I am pretty sure those are both '88s owing to the decal style and the round world champ sticker.

The burgundy red says Campione D'Italia (or whatever spelling) on the other side of the frame that wasn't photographed. So I guess it's a 1988. I'll claim the celeste CDI as a 1989 and the Quattro as a 1990 then. Time to do my signature!

Oregonroadruner 10-03-14 11:08 AM

I found a bianchi of unknown model with SLX tubing and the serial #4441 any guesses?

Bianchigirll 10-03-14 02:04 PM

'89 Giro, which is the same frame used on the '89 Super Leggera and the Mondiale (although the Mondiale has a chromed chainstay)

tonyett 10-04-14 01:24 PM

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Hi there!

I have an old Bianchi, got it from daddy after about 15 years i garage. Parents moved from house to apartment, it was either throw it away or I take care of it. Found some numbers on it (serial/ID?) Under the saddle to the right: 2.8 and to the left 202
My goal is to make this beautiful bike my main ways of transport to and from work. About 8 km ride x 2.
There are a couple of parts i need to replace fx. the rings holding the rear brake wire. This is why i would like to see if any of you could tell me or point me in the right direction as to what year this beauty was made.
It's a SuperLeggera, i replaced the original wheels with a pair a bit more durable, the road to work is partly bumpy. (The original ones rests in the garage).
Got some pics as well.
Great thread btw, learnt a lot already
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RTD1 11-04-14 06:33 AM

Age/year Bianchi Specialissima SL ?
 
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Bianchigirll (or anyone else whom can assist) -

I am attempting to determine the age/year (or at least a reasonable approximation/guess) of the attached/pictured Bianchi Specialissima SL which I recently acquired on CL (note: please ignore all of the components currently installed on the bike, as they are a complete mish-mash of manufacturers/brands, eras, etc. & it is very possible that none of them originally came on this particular bike) ?

Thank you (in advance) for your time.

Joe

Bianchigirll 11-04-14 08:17 AM

Good MorningRTD1 and welcome to the forums. Thank you for vote of confidence. Nice Bianchi. There are no cataloged Specialisma SL models or even Specialisma for that matter from '80 to whenever. I think this frame may have come from the European or even the Canadian market as there bikes would be slightly different than ours especially after '85.

Judging from some frame details like the script Bianchi on the stay caps and the style of the fork crown, and BB shell I believe this frame dates to around '85. The fork crown seems very unusal as does the chromed left stay, most higher end Bianchis only had the right stay chromed.

I agree about the components, I can see the brakes but that SR crank certainly can't be OEM. The headset too looks to be a later '90s model.

Great bike I can't wait to see her all cleaned up and hear a ride report.

josecanti 11-16-14 06:49 PM

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Hello everyone iīm new in this forum and i like to ask if someone have information about this bianchi eros frame. Came with miche headset and campagnolo bottom bracket. i can see a dedacciai sticker.
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i see the number 255 but i canīt recognize the others numbers

in the bottom bracket

thanks

Bianchigirll 11-16-14 07:05 PM

Hello josecanti welcome to the forums. any details on the type of tubing? I am pretty sure that is a '96 and came with Mirage triple group.

josecanti 11-17-14 03:59 PM

sorry for my english. this have dedacciai chrme tu.be also the tube near to the bottom bracket i minor thante near to the headfront. i believe it can be a 97 but this have' not the pump detail

it is from italy and what numbdr shouldi look to identify the frame.
hey bianchigirl thanks for your help i love bianchis i got 3 ahah

84Bianchi 11-24-14 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by RTD1 (Post 17275113)
Bianchigirll (or anyone else whom can assist) -

I am attempting to determine the age/year (or at least a reasonable approximation/guess) of the attached/pictured Bianchi Specialissima SL which I recently acquired on CL (note: please ignore all of the components currently installed on the bike, as they are a complete mish-mash of manufacturers/brands, eras, etc. & it is very possible that none of them originally came on this particular bike) ?

Thank you (in advance) for your time.

Joe

From my understanding, Specialissima models were available in at least the early 80s, but where framesets only. The frame used was the same as the Super Leggera, which may be what the SL in "Specialissima SL" stands for. Check this one out for comparison: Bianchi Specialissima SL 1985?- speedbicycles.com


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