Wrenchers, I've just got a hold of a Bianchi Special, SS# AS11208. I have a pretty good inventory of spare parts and want to bring her back for a daily rider. She is in red, (I can post pics later), and has some hack-job mods done to her. How can I find out what the original equipment was? She has a Simplex shifter mounted on the stem with SunTour derailleur and cranks and 27"wheels. The brakes are mismatched but on the front is a cheap Dia-Compe. I'm thinking that this is a Japanese model from 1981?

Can u tell me more about my first bianchi
 

:D serial numbers show H5H (0,6 or8) next set 6399 :love:

Manufactured by Hodaka of Taiwan, August 1995. That's late enough in the year that could be a 1996 model. In the future, when posting pictures, please take the picture from the drive side. This enables us to see the derailleurs and crankset, which are an aid in identifying the model and year of the bicycle.

would u like to see more? He put alot of new stuff as u see not sure if what type of other stuff is from original. How much do u think this bike is wroth :).

What's cute is I'm born in Aug too this bike wanted me to be with him :D

Bianchi TSX UL Reparto Corse, serial number 61D808c

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Frame going into Argos Racing Cycles in Bristol.

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NOS Columbus forks

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Me and my daughter picking the frame up in its new colour.

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Midway through building, wheels borrowed from another bike.

More of a database contribution than anything else. I had a Nuova Alloro frame (almost fully built) given to me, so I thought I'd contribute the information here. From what I've gathered, I believe this to be an '85...but please correct me if I'm wrong.

Serial Number is: A1230L4
Bianchi Special Columbus tubing
Bianchi stamped dropouts
Made in Italy decal
Gipiemme rear brake mount

Components: (all of which I am assuming to be original)
Headset: Ofmega Competizione
Stem: Italmanubri, 90 mm (stamped 84)
Bars: Italmanubri Super Racing
Brake Levers: Modolo America
Brake Calipers: Modolo America
Bottom Bracket: Ofmega
Cranks: Ofmega Competizione Strada, 170 mm (Bianchi printed near bolt caps)
Shifters: Campagnolo Nuovo Record
Front Der: Campagnolo Nuovo Record
Rear Der: Campagnolo Nuovo Record (stamped Pat.84)

Unfortunately, this Bianchi will never see the road again...:(

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Lovely restoration! I trust you will enjoy many happy miles on the bike.

My new acquisition
 

This one is a bit of a mystery. Ignoring respray and restickered. Has serial 83.10 759 on the seatpost collar.
There is no B stamped into the headtube lug so that eliminates high end frames. Has the look of a Japanese made frame but I'm confused with serial stamping. A Japanese made Limited ? The grouppo is top of the line Bianchi panto Super Record. That may have been an add on as it was brought into Australia. Circa 1983 poss 1984.
Cheers

Clancy and idea on the BB threading? The decals don't match the frame cartouches, and the color looks off so I highly suspect a repaint. Yes Limiteds were made in Japan, at least for the US market, before and after the Formula tubed Italian ones.

I agree with the time frame. The location of the serial number indicates an Italian frame and the code is open format, either year-month, year-week or year-fortnight. So, built in 1983 but possibly a 1984 model if the 10 represents October. The time frame is corroborated by the presence of recessed brake mountings which came into use in the very early 1980s but it doesn't have late 1980s features such as a front derailleur tab, dual bottle bosses, pump peg, etc.

The frame would appear to be at least Columbus SL, as it appears to have the patented Columbus steerer with the five helical ridges. It also has the cast brake bridge used on the upper end, Italian models.

As noted, it appears to be a repaint which, in conjunction with a replaced dropout, may account for the incorrect decals and lack of chrome. The decals themselves appear to be European style, which would further complicate identification, as European models often varied from America. Regardless, it would appear to be a high end, 1983-1984, Italian frame.

Edit: In your other thread, I see that it also has the cast seat lug, which further reinforces my assessment.

BianchiG and Tmar thanks very much for the replies. I attached more photos, I'll check re BB thread asap.
As T mentioned the additional frame addons helped narrow down early side of 80s.
I have posted a shot of the Cable guide which was inserted beneath the BB not as braze on which I had seen on many of the bianchi models. Thats a curiosity of the manufacture. The seatpost is 27.2mm and the tubing certainly has a butted ring. The rear dropout may or may not have been replaced but is Columbus whereas I can't seem to figure out the origins of the forks tips and the NDS drop out.
I believe the late owner who was in his 60s at the time of purchase didn't leave out any expense but already had a "blue" bike so decided to have it resprayed. The lugs dont come across as bog standard for bianchi high end models and the tell tale B is missing.
Importantly what colour should I restore this too ? Celeste or Black ? I know ferrari red was the theme for the catalogue in 83 but I couldn't do that.
Cheers

Forgot to add not sure if you can tell but the rear brake cable along TT only has 1 eyelet not the doubleeyelet so there are the 3 along the tt but they are singles. Which added to my curiosity of build.

Unknown Bianchi
 

Hello everyone,

A few years ago, I bought a Bianchi from a guy had given it a really bad repaint (sanded down the badge and everything!). Not knowing the model, I decided to paint it myself and put on new decals. I ride it everyday and really enjoy it. There's to number under the bottom bracket and i hope someone here might have a clue as to what model it might be:

WK096150S and 00102457

I think its a steel frame and its mounted with a full Shimano Sora system, so it not that old. Also, I live in Denmark if its any help.

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The Bianchis on the stay caps, B on the fork and under the BB cable routing would make me think closer to 86/87.

Hi bianchi girl thnxs for reponse
I've discussed with some to say it resembles a late 80s Alloro. Is the serial stamp a red herring ? The finish has elements of high end and low end models. It doesn't have any serial or markings on the BB.
I've tried in vain to get a response through official channels as yet, can only hope.

If this were late 1980s, I would have expected bosses for a 2nd water bottle and pump pegs, especially at this level. I sticking with a 1983-1984 model.

Hi Tmar
Yes I agree with you. BB is 70mm. The cable guide underneath the BB has me curious. The frame has lots of specialisima qualites. The lugwork is not special standard but the rest of the bike is consistent as is use of the serial number on the collar. I wonder if it's just a case of using non standard lugs ? And BB ?
Even though the stickers were non original, there was a Bianchi Superset 2 sticker attached. I wonder if the frame is actually a Bianchi Superset.

We find lots of variation in Bianchi depending on the intended market. I put this down to variations in consumer taste and specific requests from the distributors/importers.

Cable brackets running under the BB shell go back to at least the very early 1980s, on the higher end models. They're shown in the 1981 and 1982 catalogs and we've seen many cases from this period which are readily identifiable as being no newer by the Portacatena dropouts.

A 70mm BB shell further corroborates an Italian frame, as does the serial number location. I've yet to come across a Japanese frame where it's in that format or location. The seat lug location is consistent with an early 1980s model, Italian manufactured frame. This was changed to the BB shell for the late 1980s. However, the location is not indicative of the level of the frame.

The best indicator of the frame's level of the is the presence of the five helical ridges inside the bottom of the fork's steerer tube, which indicates a Columbus steerer and was not used on anything below SL/SP grade. Of course, the the fork could be a replacement, but a 27.2mm seat post would also indicate at least SL, as lesser grade Columbus sets used smaller posts.

A Superset 2 frame is readily identifiable by the down tube, which is noticeably oval at the bottom bracket shell. The earlier Superset used a round down tube but it was a heavier gauge, along with the chain stays, to increase bottom bracket rigidity. In an upper end, 1983-1984 frame this would have meant Columbus SP in the down tube and chain stays, with SL elsewhere. However, I don't know if this was constantly applied by Bianchi. It may have varied, depending on the market and/or model.

IMO, there is no doubt that this a 1983-1984, upper end, Italian manufactured frame. if it were Japanese the serial number format and location would be different. Nor would it have a 70mm BB shell, the Columbus steerer or Camapgnolo dropouts. If it were late 1980s it would have a 2nd set of bottle bosses and/or pump peg. If it were very early 1980s, it would have Campagnolo Portacatena dropouts. If it is something else, then somebody went through a lot of trouble to fake it.

Not really old but figured I'd share it for the database.

1999 Bianchi Campoine -New Pearl Lime since everyone has a Celeste Bianchi. And no I'm not jealous, LOL!

Ok one number stamped onto the BB and then an additional one on a bar code label on the downtube.

BB # WA8071115A

Bar Code Label # 78007355Z

I have no idea what any of the numbers mean but this is a 55cm frame so I suspect that's what the last numbers of the bar code mean.

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What about 4L61612? Does anyone know the year? It has campagnolo velox derailleurs. Thanks

Assuming the Velox is OEM, it would be 1974-1975.

Does this bike look like a 55cm? I'm not buying it that the seller says it is.

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I think that is s the 59. Funny the Sport SX uses the same frame and it came in inches. The sizes would have been 50, 53, 56, 59 and 63

I'm now considering what to do with this thing. It came to me last year. It has Suntour Cyclone derailleurs, Shimano cartridge bottom bracket and those strange looking, threaded rear dropouts


Bianchigirll seemed to think (at that time) it was a Campione D' Italia. It does not have a decal to indicate that. I'm not doubting you Bianchigirll, is there a possibility that it was originally purchased as a frame-set. It does have a chrome, engraved fork and a very sorry looking brake bridge.


The serial number is 872113. Can anyone help me date this thing? Bianchigirll?

Sorry,Bianchigirll, I went over some of my old posts and found that you've already answered that question. I've collected a few old Athena bits and pieces. Maybe I'll just stick them on.