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The Formula tubesets had been discontinued by the time that Superset II was released. The Reparto Corse decal became a marketing tool for Bianchi in the 1990s. It doesn't necessarily mean that it was built by Reparto Corse. It just may have been designed by them (i.e. it shares the same geometry with a Reparto Corse frame). However, your frame is Italian and sounds mid-1990s. You should post pictures. Also, determine the seat post size and verify whether it has a Columbus steerer tube, as Bianchi was starting to use other Italian tubing manufacturers around this time.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 20826636)
The Formula tubesets had been discontinued by the time that Superset II was released. The Reparto Corse decal became a marketing tool for Bianchi in the 1990s. It doesn't necessarily mean that it was built by Reparto Corse. It just may have been designed by them (i.e. it shares the same geometry with a Reparto Corse frame). However, your frame is Italian and sounds mid-1990s. You should post pictures. Also, determine the seat post size and verify whether it has a Columbus steerer tube, as Bianchi was starting to use other Italian tubing manufacturers around this time.
Finally got around to converting images - I hate the new iPhone image format! I also made two new Bianchi posts to my blog last night... some 1993 ads, and a translation of a Minimax review from 1993. Enjoy... https://rorymasini.blogspot.com/search/label/Bianchi https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4e5fc873ef.jpg Bianchi dropouts? https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a8c66ab86f.jpg Columbus blades at least. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...76848a6872.jpg BB is a bit of a rust bucket. Non drive side is a bit worse. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7278df82e2.jpg Pump peg. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b13954f38a.jpg Rusty tabs. |
I believe that Bianchi started using that particular Campione del Mondo decal in late 1991, after they coaxed the Gatorade team of reigning world champion Gianni Bugno to switch from Moser to Bianchi. That would make it no earlier than a 1992 model, which is a pretty good fit with the mid-1990s estimate. That looks like a stamped seat lug and the BB shell is pretty basic. While is appears to be a Superest II version, it's certainly not the Superset II shell used on the high grade models during this era. This looks like a mid-1990s, mid-range model. Did you get the seat post size?
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 20826940)
Did you get the seat post size?
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
(Post 20826596)
MS has a very unique profile and is more of an inverted raindrop rather than ovalized https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5b9895897.jpeg |
Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 20826940)
I believe that Bianchi started using that particular Campione del Mondo decal in late 1991, after they coaxed the Gatorade team of reigning world champion Gianni Bugno to switch from Moser to Bianchi. That would make it no earlier than a 1992 model, which is a pretty good fit with the mid-1990s estimate. That looks like a stamped seat lug and the BB shell is pretty basic. While is appears to be a Superest II version, it's certainly not the Superset II shell used on the high grade models during this era. This looks like a mid-1990s, mid-range model. Did you get the seat post size?
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Hoping I can get some info on mine.
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Originally Posted by CABELLOJO
(Post 20858886)
Hoping I can get some info on mine.
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Need help identifying
SN is KS430537
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Hi!
A friend, and bike mechanic, recently gave me an old frame that had lain around the shop for a long time. I'm planning to build it up, probably as a singlespeed. I would just like to find out as much as I can about the frame, such as the model and year or range of years. Any help would be greatly appreciated. It has a serial number stamped into the bottom bracket, KS548867, and a lone 8 stamped below that. It also has "Bianchi" stamped into the rear dropouts. The headbadge and the Bianchi logos are the only decals left on it. Thanks! (Edit: I will post images after I have made 10 posts here.) |
Originally Posted by Samsung
(Post 20901697)
SN is KS430537
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Originally Posted by SocraticTroll
(Post 20930158)
Hi!
A friend, and bike mechanic, recently gave me an old frame that had lain around the shop for a long time. I'm planning to build it up, probably as a singlespeed. I would just like to find out as much as I can about the frame, such as the model and year or range of years. Any help would be greatly appreciated. It has a serial number stamped into the bottom bracket, KS548867, and a lone 8 stamped below that. It also has "Bianchi" stamped into the rear dropouts. The headbadge and the Bianchi logos are the only decals left on it. Thanks! (Edit: I will post images after I have made 10 posts here.) The frame's main tubes are an unspecified Tange double butted CrMo (chromium-molybdenum) steel mated to lower grade Tange Mangalloy (carbon-manganese) stays and forks. The frame is built to Superset configuration, meaning that the down tube and chain stays use heavier gauge tubing to increase bottom bracket stiffness. Given the era, the main tubes are probably a combination of Tange's seamed 900 and 1000 sets. Pic assist...https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...aa6f97f904.jpg |
Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 20931281)
Your frame was manufactured in Japan during November 1985 and is therefore a 1986 model. Based on the S/N info, in conjunction with the Ice Blue colour and presence of down tube shift lever bosses, your frame is from a 1986 Bianchi Premio. The Premio was 12th of 14 models in Bianchi's 1986 road line.
The frame's main tubes are an unspecified Tange double butted CrMo (chromium-molybdenum) steel mated to lower grade Tange Mangalloy (carbon-manganese) stays and forks. The frame is built to Superset configuration, meaning that the down tube and chain stays use heavier gauge tubing to increase bottom bracket stiffness. Given the era, the main tubes are probably a combination of Tange's seamed 900 and 1000 sets. Pic assist... And, you're right about it being a Premio! I didn't notice it out in the sun, but when I got it indoors and took a closer look, there is pretty light "Premio" on both sides of the top tube. Thanks again! |
Originally Posted by SocraticTroll
(Post 20931473)
Thank you so much! I'm amazed you can figure out so much from that SN. Is there a place you looked it up?
And, you're right about it being a Premio! I didn't notice it out in the sun, but when I got it indoors and took a closer look, there is pretty light "Premio" on both sides of the top tube. Thanks again! |
Hello!
I have a Bianchi frame I'm curious about. I was thinking its a Squadra, based on some of the components. But I found an '87 catalog and it showed the Limited with similar spec. It came into the local coop as a donation and not a complete bike. It was repainted or powder coated at some point. I was thinking it was done very well because there isn't a single bit of old paint anywhere. No over spray, tiny bits on any threads, nothing. I initially thought I should find some Celeste over spray but the Limited comes in black and that's the color it is. I've started stripping it and I'm no where near done, so it looks pretty rough. There were also no decals when I started. The serial number on the under side of the bottom bracket is 19919 on the drive side and 0 6 or 9 0 (depending on your direction) on the non drive side. The seat tube measurement is between 26.8 and 27.0. I'm having trouble getting an accurate measurement. I think there's some build up from the stripper in there. I'll have to do finish the job and get an accurate measurement. The frame dropouts are Gipiemme. Its hard to tell with the fork dropouts. The powder coating is thick. I can see some letters but I can't make them out. The components it had were: The bottom bracket is Italian. 36x24t, Shimano with date code of KF, 1986 June. The headset is a black Stronglight Delta with needle bearings, threaded obviously. The brake calipers are Shimano 600 Br-6208 also with the date code KF. The down tube shifter was some Dura Ace lever, definitely not original. There were no wheels, stem, handlebar, brake levers, or cranks for other clues. As I said earlier, I initially thought it was a Squadra but now I'm leaning towards the Limited. The seat stays have what I think is referred to as 'Biachi Caps'? which is mentioned in the catalog. I don't know what the Squadra fork looks like but the Limited should have an investment cast fork crown. Are there any other clues I've missed? Thanks in advance for any help! I typed all that up and took a bunch of pics but I've mostly just been a spectator and haven't posted anything. So, I'll make some posts and upload pics |
Originally Posted by gil_00000
(Post 20949971)
Hello!
I have a Bianchi frame I'm curious about. I was thinking its a Squadra, based on some of the components. But I found an '87 catalog and it showed the Limited with similar spec. It came into the local coop as a donation and not a complete bike. It was repainted or powder coated at some point. I was thinking it was done very well because there isn't a single bit of old paint anywhere. No over spray, tiny bits on any threads, nothing. I initially thought I should find some Celeste over spray but the Limited comes in black and that's the color it is. I've started stripping it and I'm no where near done, so it looks pretty rough. There were also no decals when I started. The serial number on the under side of the bottom bracket is 19919 on the drive side and 0 6 or 9 0 (depending on your direction) on the non drive side. The seat tube measurement is between 26.8 and 27.0. I'm having trouble getting an accurate measurement. I think there's some build up from the stripper in there. I'll have to do finish the job and get an accurate measurement. The frame dropouts are Gipiemme. Its hard to tell with the fork dropouts. The powder coating is thick. I can see some letters but I can't make them out. The components it had were: The bottom bracket is Italian. 36x24t, Shimano with date code of KF, 1986 June. The headset is a black Stronglight Delta with needle bearings, threaded obviously. The brake calipers are Shimano 600 Br-6208 also with the date code KF. The down tube shifter was some Dura Ace lever, definitely not original. There were no wheels, stem, handlebar, brake levers, or cranks for other clues. As I said earlier, I initially thought it was a Squadra but now I'm leaning towards the Limited. The seat stays have what I think is referred to as 'Biachi Caps'? which is mentioned in the catalog. I don't know what the Squadra fork looks like but the Limited should have an investment cast fork crown. Are there any other clues I've missed? Thanks in advance for any help! I typed all that up and took a bunch of pics but I've mostly just been a spectator and haven't posted anything. So, I'll make some posts and upload pics https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dcf86c1eab.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cd14c347cd.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...31a978f01f.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9f6f432aef.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...715c7a9038.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...474f2b7d2d.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a921c4c020.jpg |
Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 20950613)
What you have is a 1987 model manufactured in late 1986. The Gipiemme dropouts, in conjunction with the absence of a front derailleur hanger, indicates a Formula II frame. Based on the fork crown it is not the frame used on the Campione d'Italia or Squadra, which used the Aelle fork. Rather it is the full Formula II frame used on the Trofeo, Nuovo Alloro and Limited. However, the Shimano New 600EX components are correct for a Limited and even the date codes would be appropriate. It almost certainly was originally configured as a Limited.
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Bianchi Boardwalk Identification Help
On the bottom bracket, there is the number displayed as H1C53347. Any help is well appreciated! Nothing on the frame displays "made in Italy" but the rims are made in Japan, ARYA 700c PX-45.
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Originally Posted by jfelts0424
(Post 20958021)
On the bottom bracket, there is the number displayed as H1C53347. Any help is well appreciated! Nothing on the frame displays "made in Italy" but the rims are made in Japan, ARYA 700c PX-45.
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What does my serial number mean ?
HI all, please help me with this Bianchi model ? I need help identifying this Bianchi Rekord 842 12 V. When was it made and is it ITALIAN ? its number 1L21944. ?? How does one read this ? Also all stickers are decals. Is this normal ? the dropout is Gipiemme if that helps with the year of make ? Also i cant seem to see any down-tube shifting holes on the down-tube but there are external break holders on the top tube. Anyone know why that could be ? [MENTION=20650]T-Mar[/MENTION] do you have an explanation possibly ?
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9d1cb73bf5.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f66ef1e1e.jpeghttps://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...59dc900cc.jpeg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...433213177.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7cb6db5df.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2b241f457.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ed7014b85.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...be56acb4a.jpeg I |
1980s Japanese "Super_"?
Hello all, contemplating my first vintage, or maybe neo-vintage project. Would love some help with ID of this particular frame, and suggestions on component spec.
Questions: 1. Can you ID exact model and year? 2. Anyone know with certainty the seatpost size? Definitely smaller than 27.2mm, but I measure anywhere between 26.5 and 26.8. 3. Exact headset and crown race size? The crown race currently on the fork is wrong size. Seems to be 1" steer tube but with a step out at bottom? 4. What are your thoughts on finish? I thought about repainting vs. stripping to a bare finish. What I know: - Made in Japan and Piaggio stickers suggest maybe Ishiwata tubing? - S/N on bottom bracket = MH08461 - Rear spacing is 120mm, dropouts are stamped Shimano-*something* - Fork spacing is 100mm, dropouts are stamped Tange-*something* - Only model sticker I can read is "Super..." on both sides of top tube - BB is BSA threaded (the bottom bracket partially installed was just to verify the threading and not original) - I don't have any original components, acquired it as a frame/fork only Pics attached, thanks for any help! Edit: Can't post pics yet, album is here: photos.app.goo.gl/gF6Baf7JLPRM7sGH7 |
Originally Posted by JerryBerry
(Post 20968357)
HI all, please help me with this Bianchi model ? I need help identifying this Bianchi Rekord 842 12 V. When was it made and is it ITALIAN ? its number 1L21944. ?? How does one read this ? Also all stickers are decals. Is this normal ? the dropout is Gipiemme if that helps with the year of make ? Also i cant seem to see any down-tube shifting holes on the down-tube but there are external break holders on the top tube. Anyone know why that could be ? [MENTION=20650]T-Mar[/MENTION] do you have an explanation possibly ?
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Originally Posted by lukedunk
(Post 20968874)
Hello all, contemplating my first vintage, or maybe neo-vintage project. Would love some help with ID of this particular frame, and suggestions on component spec.
Questions: 1. Can you ID exact model and year? 2. Anyone know with certainty the seatpost size? Definitely smaller than 27.2mm, but I measure anywhere between 26.5 and 26.8. 3. Exact headset and crown race size? The crown race currently on the fork is wrong size. Seems to be 1" steer tube but with a step out at bottom? 4. What are your thoughts on finish? I thought about repainting vs. stripping to a bare finish. What I know: - Made in Japan and Piaggio stickers suggest maybe Ishiwata tubing? - S/N on bottom bracket = MH08461 - Rear spacing is 120mm, dropouts are stamped Shimano-*something* - Fork spacing is 100mm, dropouts are stamped Tange-*something* - Only model sticker I can read is "Super..." on both sides of top tube - BB is BSA threaded (the bottom bracket partially installed was just to verify the threading and not original) - I don't have any original components, acquired it as a frame/fork only Pics attached, thanks for any help! Edit: Can't post pics yet, album is here: photos.app.goo.gl/gF6Baf7JLPRM7sGH7 The frame is not from Bianchi's prime Japanese contractor during the Piaggio era. The decals suggest circa 1982-1983. The only Bianchi I'm aware of, that used vertical dropouts during this period was the Ranndonneur but it had cantilever studs. Unless the cinch slot is notably pinched that's a very small seat post diameter for an Ishiwata tubeset. Given the Tange fork dropouts and atypical contractor, it may be Tange, as a 26.6mm post was typical for Tange #1 , #2 , #3 and #5 . The frame serial number, features and Tange suggest the manufacturer may be Tsunoda. |
possible Canadian, budget model Bianchi
I just purchased this bike and I'm eager to learn what it is. Year, model, Canadian market?
Serial number CS304982. Hubs and drive train are Golden Arrow. Wheels/tires are 27x1-1/4" brakes are Dia-Compe Saddle, seatpost, bars, stem I'm sure have all been changed. It has a kickstand mounting plate! Weighs nearly 25lbs. Rides nicely. Seatpost diameter = 26.4mm. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0a7b024d4c.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6bbb6b93bb.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...599bff4495.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2af1356099.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...41d44f2453.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ad0a8b406c.jpg |
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